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What !?!? Denney and kelsay ain't studs. Mcgee is alright. They will be better, but c'mon.

Over-intellectualized bullsh*t. All theory. If he is an exceptional player, he will find a way to impact games, even if if is by dissuading teams from passing in his direction. Perhaps they could have chosen a player of a different position, perhaps he isn't the player they think he is, but an exceptional player will find a way to impact games regardless of the scheme. If he controls an area of the field, he is having an impact. Plus he is a dynamite returner.

Do you think they felt "well, this guy could start at TE and transform our offense, but we need some special teamers"? They took the guys the thought would be good players. Most later rd guys don't end up starting, or even stay in the league. they are looking for guys that are good enough to be pros.

yea, why not list EVERY player that has been a late round rookie starter? Plus I wouldn't call him a great rookie success, he is more like a nice developing player I said it HAPPENS, but RARELY! And he was a VALUE pick!, Exactly what everyone is complaining about. They wanted to get a rookie starting TE and center in the 4th round, that change the offense into a juggernaut.

I was going to type " how many starters with the picks the Bills had" or "with a pick each round" but I thought that was implicit. The Chiefs traded away a pro bowler for more picks, that's obviously a special case. And it remains to be seen if they get 6 starters, and if the starters are any good, and if the Chiefs will still blow (likely). Is there anyone more full of Sh*t in the NFL than Herm Edwards? I think that Everyone knows that Fowler blows (poetry). The tight ends? I think that they know they could do a lot better, but that there aren't that many hot shot TE's to choose from each draft. WR or TE in the second round? My preference for this draft, and this team, WR. I'm not convinced that Antonio Gates or Dallas Clark would have been any good in last years offense. I think the OC and the QB's were way more to blame than the TE's.

Not necessarily. I think we need to improve those positions too, and it is reasonable to argue about the top picks, but they had needs at WR and CB, and there didn't seem to be a TE worth the 11th pick (how do you know that they didn't try to make trades?). Blah blah blah blah blah........ How many rookie starters do you think a team is going to get out a draft? Really, do you think they don't know Fowler blows? do you think they don't know they could vastly improve at TE? There aren't even many pro TE prospects that come out of college each year. It's not like RB or WR. Which TE did you want at 11? I would rather that they waited until next year to fill a position with a top pick or in free agency than waste picks on marginal players that aren't any better than the guys they already have.

It seems that people are expecting to fill THIS seasons' needs with 5 Rd picks. How many teams that make the playoffs will have a ROOKIE, starting center(or TE) from the 3rd, 4th,5th,6th or 7th rounds? Yeah it happens, but the second day picks usually take some time to develop. The Bills sucked, and one draft cannot fill all the holes. They have 2 nice prospects that might upgrade 2 positions of need. That's good. People can bicker about what position to spend the top picks on, but the other guys likely won't start as rookies, so the Bills chose the best players on their board, or guys that were recommended, or a guy on the staff used to coach etc. When you are trying to get lucky, you have to take the BPA. They are just trying to find guys that MIGHT be good enough to actually play in the pros, let alone become starters.

Really, after the first 2 rounds, can you really expect a first year impact player? The Bills sucked last year, you can't fill so many holes with one draft. People can bicker about what position should be filled with the first picks, but did you really think we were gonna find a tight end in the 3rd or 4th that was gonna "open up the offense" or be a real impact player? It happens, but the odds aren't very good. They got good prospects for starters in two positions of need (CB, WR), the rest of the guys are projects, the same for every team.

If the Bills drafted 3 centers, you would hate it.

There could also be problems with the players union if teams beyond the top pick started doing this.

I feel exactly the same way. It's really hard to get excited about the team when you can see that the coach plays "not to lose". It leads to decent records , but never the big prize. It's also boring to watch.

I generally agree with what you laid out here, but perhaps point four is key. Perhaps, if the Bills had a "shutdown corner" they could mix up coverages more, and be more adaptable to an opposing offenses' adjustments. Like say an OC, or QB is adept at picking apart the Cover 2, or their playmakers' skills matchup to the Cover 2 (good route- runners), the versatility could be very beneficial.

yeah 2. It's meant as a compliment. A very big compliment.

JP will be the Jim Plunkett of this era.

There isn't an area on this team, from defensive backfield to D-line, from wide-out to O-line, that doesn't need big improvement. I will be happy if they get a guy who excels, and makes a difference. Take the best guy. I can't believe people have a philosophy like "we need WR most, and DB 2nd priority, then TE, so first pick should be WR and 2nd pick DB, etc". That's really simplistic (code word for stupid). This team sucked, and has big weaknesses EVERYWHERE. RB and QB are in the development stages, but everywhere else there are problems.

He is a dlck. He is from "The U" (no, I don't need a list of the "good" guys from Miami). The Giants didn't even want him around because he was causing problems, and that was obviously the right choice. There are also injury questions, and a drop off in play. I would rather the Bills gave the playing time to a develop a draftee.

I don't remember Mike Johnson. Herman Moore was real good, but I'm don't think they were together many seasons and the QB situation was bad, real bad.

With all the creeps that have played in the NFL and pro sports in general, it seems ridiculous to say a bad thing about Barry Sanders. If it was really "all about him", he would have tried to force a trade to a winning franchise. The reason it was all about him is because the Detroit front office could never find any other weapons (QB especially) to move the ball forward.

Why does anyone really care if he is in or not? Do you consider it some kind of "feather in the cap" for the City of Buffalo or something. I only enjoy seeing the players get in.

I agree. I don't remember that much about Q Early (was he tall?), except that he was above average. I think Thomas will be great but like you mention could be a project. I think Sweed is "specialized", but that skill would really help the current team. If we got him in the 2nd, or traded up, I would be pretty happy. Not sure he is worth a #11, but he has the kind of skill that could be immediately effective. Namely, going up for the ball.

Yeah he looked real good too, but Sweed definitely looked the best at going up for the ball. I'm not a big one for the "character" thing, and I don't know the whole story, but beating up on the mother of your child is pretty bad.

When I watch the Youtube footage of the top receivers I see them like this: Limas Sweed - Great hands, and body control. Perfect endzone target, and chain mover. Looks kinda slow, but fights for the ball and goes up to get it at the highest point. Doesn't do much after the catch. Devin Thomas - He looks like Andre Reed out there. Great after the catch, and makes things happen. I think he will be a star. Malcolm Kelly - Made lots of plays, and some great catches and nice runs after the catch, but he lets the ball hit his body too much (almost every catch). That's a very bad habit. Hardy and the other guys don't seem as "specialized" as far as great runs or going after the ball, etc. I can easily see Thomas becoming the best receiver of the bunch, but I think that Sweed is the guy whose skills match what the Bills need most. I have also heard great things about his work ethic and general personality (I ain't gonna use the "C" word).