BuffaloBaumer

Just want to remind you people that there is a victory in store for the Bills this Sunday. Keep the faith, Next year, they will not whiff on the DC and a QB will be drafted in the first round. Until then, try to enjoy the season with the hand that has been dealt. The season is not over, not yet. The Bills are not lying down against Houston - 24-23 Buff

I agree and DO believe that there will be a good QB followed up by a defensive guru. This team has got everything ready to go for a young QB

He was with 2nd team today and may be ready by Sunday..

I suppose the issue comes down to this. This team has not won with Fitz and you can argue it's because of the D or because a full offensive gameplan cannot be utilized because he does not have a NFL arm. Update - vick is due 15 Mill next year so there goes the trade idea. I guess just see what happens when he is cut....

If you look at the numbers, you will see that this is not true...

Getting back to the draft part of my post - can we assume that the Bills SHOULD be able to get one of the top 3 QBs coming out Barkley Smith Wilson Would anyone NOT be happy if they drafted on of these 3? As I mentioned, Vick is not the future here (unless he proved otherwise) but one of these 3 will be. If these are not the top 3, who are?

I am not a big fan of stats when it comes to Fitz. I see how the game unfolds with him at the helm and the percentage of passes he makes under 5 yards is not enticing to me (even if that gets him to 61%). D coordinator and QB gets this team over the hump. LBs can be sprinkled in via draft and FA.

I suppose the question is "would he be cheaper"? Vick has a guaranteed 40 mill starting last year. 16 of the that was paid in 2011 and he probably got similar money this year. That could leave less than 10 mill and the team that deals for Vick might even be able to work out a better deal. Fitz can be cut after the year and the Bills can be free of his money. Overall, it is probably pretty close on the money thing and I would be willing to roll the dice on Vick - that's me though

That is why the number one goal is to still draft that QB in Round 1. Getting Vick is just step one.....

Count me in as someone who believes that Vick is not NEARLY as bad as what is being portrayed right now. Lots of people here think Vick is garbage and that is fine, I do not. Should get interesting at least..... http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/29/report-eagles-likely-to-change-from-vick-to-nick/

I think it all depends on where the true problem is with the defense. I personally don't think the players are NEARLY as bad as the coaching is. Look what Wade did with the Houston D in ONE off-season. If they got an up and coming D coordinator that can light a fire under the defense, Chan might survive. If Chan doesn't stray from Fitz and does not have the vision to move forward on QB, his job is as good as gone.

I certainly was not trying to pull off elitism. It was info that I mentioned a while back (publically) but did not think anyone remembered.

As far as the ownership, I will pm you

I just think it would be nice to be pro-active for a change when it comes to the QB position. Chan will be able to get more out of Vick's legs and arm than he can with Fitz. Vick then turns into the back-up after a year (or the opposit happens and he thrives under Chan). looks like a win win to me.

Here is what I think would be a great idea. Trade for Vick, have him start next year while you let Fitz finish out this year. If Barkely and Geno Smith are gone before Buffalo picks, evaluate and see if the 3rd best guy is worth taking at the 10ish spot. If that guy is not going to be worth it, look for one in the 2nd and draft Teo. You then have Vick as a starter with the rookie learning the system for a year (or possibly 2). I am guessing Vick could be had because he will want to go somewhere with a chance to start. KC and Buffalo (possibly Jax, Jets and AZ) are the only teams who will be looking to upgrade the position. I think 2013 will be a good time to need a QB due to the least amount of teams needing a QB in a while. In summary, let Fitz finish the season, Trade for Vick (he has tons of time to learn the system), draft a QB and then that QB starts in 1-2 years. I believe by taking Vick, you don't have to have that down year when drafting a rookie. Is there one hole you can punch in this line of thought because there is no way you are going backwards with Vick over Fitz.

I hear you loud and clear and the win is coming!

And now, the prediction: Buffalo 24 Houston 23

they are going to take it and you will be glad you were there to witness it live

Doesn't have to be does it?

So now the question is.......what will you be thinking WHEN Buffalo beats Houston?

There we go

I have seen those people before but no, that is not I. I am simply choosing an approach of confidence that will hopefully seep into others one fan at a time. The culture of the Bills is one that has been too morose for too long. It changes in a little over a week.

here they come http://blogs.buffalonews.com/press-c...on-effort.html

Feel the tide turning. We have passed the low point and this is the game that gets everything back on track. The talent is there and whatever has been lacking is destined to show up on that Sunday. Kyle Williams Marcel Darius Mario Williams Mark Anderson Kyle Moore Merriman Kelsay They are showing up in Houston my friends - book it