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I think Justin Jenkins will be cut as well, he had some awefull drops in pre-season. Donnie Spragan might be kept instead.

Ugh... Source: http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story?campai...9000d5d80a3e78d

Rookie money should be fixed imo; 2 year contracts with salary based on overall draft position. Then teams 'own' the rights to the rookie to offer him the same deal he would get somewhere else if contract negotiations would be unresolved after the 2 years.

Cut a deal with the creditcard company to repay them with rapid-rewards-points...

Gratz but how about setting yourself up for a season ticket streak a year? Edit: I'm just being jealous since I would need to move to the States first in order to attend...

I may have sounded more harsh then intended... In my defense I did paragraph his post for readability so I felt I was entitled to a cheapshot... The welcome onboard part was meant sincere.

The points we do know: 1. Peters has 3 years left on his contract 2. Peters made the pro-bowl last year 3. Peters was injured 4. Peters didnot report for volunteer workouts 5. Peters didnot report mandatory minicap 6. Peters didnot report trainingcamp What we donot know: 1. Why was the holdout started in the first place? 2. Was the new contract request done before the start of the holdout (would make sense)? 3. Did the Bills flatout deny him a new contract for this year firmly closing the door? 4. How much contact has there been during his holdout? From a Bills perspective it's clear you don't want to renegotiate a player who has had only one great year which he ended in injury, you want to see one more year of performance. From Peters his perspective getting injured makes you think, what if it is career ending, where is my money then, im the best OL on the team yet I dont earn most. I can understand both sides but feel the Bills side is most realistic allthough they could have worked out a restructured deal where his additional pay would be purely based on performance. Interesting read here btw on Bills taking hard stance http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/story/420505.html.

Welcome onboard, some interesting reading may be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paragraphs.

Whoohooo I'm getting it live down here in Europe: Buffalo vs Indianapolis - Preseason - NFL Sunday, 24 August 2.00am \o/

We have a saying in Dutch that fits here really well, I'll do my best to translate it: Gentle (soft, weak) Doctors create stinking wounds. For those interest; here's the Dutch original (since I think my translation of it sucks). Zachte heelmeesters maken stinkende wonden. Edit: I just realized the saying could apply both to the Bills camp and Peters camp... ow well. My personal opinion (don't know if it would have been possible at all) is that Peters should have reported from day 1 made his demands known and if no progress was made then and only then start a holdout, however I'm not even sure if that is possible if he allready reported say for the OTA's to start a holdout midcamp.

Given the amount of TC and OTA time spend on 2 minute offense and otherwise time pressured drives I firmly believe he has this top on his list of things to improve on this season.

Aye, he was the QB coach (plus the offensive playcalling) with Frankfurt Galaxy whilst Hamdan was playing for the Amsterdam Admirals. NFL Europe was used to groom front office staff, refs, coaches as well as players. My assumption is that he played a part in the signing of Hamdan (prolly had good tape on him, plus Hamdan ownes about the NFL Europe recordbook).

Kurt Warner started pre-season as 3rd qb for the rams, after having spend the spring in NFL Europe (ok ok he took 2nd qb spot in camp then trent went down and we all know the rest of the story).

"Gibran does a great job, especially in preparation during the week," said quarterbacks coach Alex Van Pelt, who played against Hamdan when both were toiling in NFL Europe. "The biggest thing with Gibran is he needs game experience, and that's what we need to do in the preseason. We need to see a lot of him in the preseason." http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/p...RTS03/808070356 We've seen a decent performance from Hamdan during pre-season and absolutly nothing from Baker, Hamdan was moving the team accross the field, did Baker even get a second first down? Time will tell, but I wouldn't count on the team cutting Hamdan.

Welcome onboard, may the Chroise be with you. Hamdan will not overtake JP on the DC for the simple reason that is called sports politics. Allthough it would be pretty sweet, let's see if Hamdan can get to his NFL Europe level during the remaining pre-season games and then JP needs to start worrying (as does Trent lol).

Jup, Bush is in his senior year and most likely starter unless they opt to go with Kelly Moore (freshman).

Jup, so NFL Europe players normally missed out the pre-season workouts but were in time for the trainingcamp. Many teams used the 'our pre-season workouts are essential' line to send nothing but camp fodder to NFL Europe (those players often didnt even get past NFL Europe draft let alone their camp). Teams that did take it seriously other then a roster exemption insurance often reaped great benefits from it to the extend of retraining players at a different position to gaining surprise pro-bowlers out of them or the negative that was finding out a player was not going to be going anywhere (*cough* Akili Smith).

I'll tell you this; Hamdan looked rusty to me. Sure he was in control, had some rough starting positions and tough penatlies and drops (he tends to throw the ball extremly hard on checkdowns, seemed Justin Jenkins had trouble with that). But the Hamdan I know can do better then what we saw, that said this is how he looked in his first game in NFL Europe as well, from there on he started to produce big time. I think he really needs to throw that first TD on real NFL level for his confidence. JP looked good to me, better then what I've seen from him tbh, his throws are dangerously high though. Trent... well I know everyone has their opions ready but I dont think we've seen enough action by him to judge him at all, also he had 2 false start penalties by the OL which hurt his ability to sustain the drives.

Woot woot Hamdan time!

Thats the way to watch pre-season games imho. Just look for the good stuff and further down on the improvements.

Hope so But I think it was said Baker would get this pre-season game.

OOOooooowwww!!! That's awesome, did I mention that I love you, cause I Do now!

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With Walker and Chambers having switched side we're bound to see more false start penalties; it takes time to adjust.

Anyone know of a livestream somewhere (visual)?