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  1. 30 minutes ago, LyndonvilleBill said:

    I'm with you for the most part on this.

     

    Love the Bates signing and was all for it. But he's an average run blocker (too light in the pants) but he's a very good pass blocker. Hasn't played a full season as a starter. Will he wear down? 

     

    Our line got better when he came in, but, Dawkins also got healthier around the same time and started playing to expectations. Bates played better than Ford, Feliciano and Boetteger, but that's not hard to do. Made less mistakes. Also the OL change how they played. Improved running game helped as well (chicken or the egg.🤔).

     

    He's also currently our backup center. If we didn't extend Morse or he retired, I think Bates was plan A.  Heaven forbid something happens to Morse and we have to shift him to center. Then what? Ford to RG?

     

    I'm hopeful that Ford can improve with a new coach, but, not sure I want to have him as the only option. Boetteger? Have not really heard much of how he's doing after his injury. Are we sure if he will even be ready to play this season or when.

     

    Still want a T/G maybe 4th rnd or later though.

     

    Except your theory about run blocking seems a little strange considering the Bills started running the ball at a pace near the top of the NFL in yards per game once he started playing...clearly he had a very positive effect on the run game because Singletary started looking really good at about the same time as well.

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  2. 1 hour ago, cv05 said:

     

    so, you think the coaching staff said "we have this awesome player, but we're not going to use him"? 

     

    There must be a reason, and that reason must have something to do with 34 year old Emanuel Sanders being better. Football fans always look at their own team through rose colored glasses. I bet before that KC explosion, about 10% of NFL fans knew who Davis even was.

     

    This all being said, I have high hopes for Davis... but c'mon, the Bills WR room is average at best.

     

    Nope, the reason was they wanted to play Sanders except everytime Davis got on the field after week 4 or 5, he outplayed him.

     

    Sanders really started tailing off after a good opening month or so.

     

    Don't think it's possible to have Stefon Diggs on your team and have an "average at best" WR room. That's just assinine to even type that...to the point I can't believe your brain actually followed through with your fingers typing that out and then following through to hit the save button to post it.

  3. 3 hours ago, cv05 said:
    • We've lost 1 (maybe 2 with Bates) members of our starting offensive line.
    • The replacement on our offensive line is going to be 34 with a history of significant shoulder injuries. He's known for being a great run blocker, but has been a liability in pass protection in the past (likely partially due to shoulder issues). This is a passing league and we have the best QB in the game. If we didn't spend two of our offensive drives against KC without Josh passing the ball, we would have won, despite McDermott's best efforts to lose the game.
    • We have no o-line depth
    • Our running backs stink. Singletary turned in on towards the end of the season, but that may have been due to the dual Allen-Singletary threat, which is apparently being reduced/eliminated
    • Ok, TE is upgraded. I like the OJ Howard signing. But the guy has 5 injuries on the same ankle. He is about as far away from a guaranteed producer as you can get
    • We've lost 2 of our top 3 WRs from last year. They were old, but still. Davis looked good in one game - lets hope that continues, but still to be seen. He was number 4 on the depth chart for a reason last year...
    • Diggs is getting up there, we'll see, but maybe he'll start declining. Same could be said about Mitch Morse.

     

    The constant investment in the defense and neglect of the offense is so painful to watch. Can't stand it.

     

    Actually that isn't right. Davis was number 4 on the doeth chart but it was honestly for NO good reason. Everytime he played he produced going back to his rookie year.

  4. 3 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said:

    His main issue was his attitude/personality/lack of character.  Perfect example in the differences between those drought year regimes and how Beane/McDermott run things.

     

    Maybe if he wasn't the whipping boy for Bills fans pretty much from day 1, you would have seen a different side.  These players are actually human beings you know.

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  5. 11 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said:

    The obvious answer is to guarantee his acquisition. If there is more than one team interested, then a release would give the asset some control of where he goes. Giving up assets eliminates that uncertainty. Obviously

     

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    No team is taking that contract when they can wait for him to be released, unless the Browns eat a large chunk of it.

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  6. 3 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

    That's not the point.  Newton missed only two games in his first four years of football (both in 2014).  One due to a sack in a preseason game and one later in the year after a car accident. 

     

    The point is that Newton was once viewed as close to invincible because he didn't miss hardly any games at the start of his career despite his playing style (which is very similar to Allen's).  Newton's career resembled that of a hard running RB who peaked early and was worn down by the time he hit 30.  It's a cautionary tale that Beane and McDermott witnessed first hand.

     

    They are not even close to the same. Newton got hit and sacked more than almost any QB in the NFL for multiple years due to him not being elusive in the pocket or feeling pressure from rushers 

     

    Allen has some of the best escapability inside the pocket I have ever seen and greatly reduces the hits he takes due to this.

     

    Newtons issues weren't getting hit on runs where he could see the rushers in front of him for the most part, it was getting hit in the pocket.

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  7. 2 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

    McDermott saw what happened to Cam first hand.  It's a cautionary tale the Bills need to learn real quick.  Article from 2016....

     

     Carolina Panthers quarterback Cam Newton has taken a beating in his NFL career, far more than any quarterback in recent history. And suddenly, at the still-young age of 27, Newton is facing the first flash point between playing style and long-term future.

     

    Newton is officially cleared to return from a concussion suffered when he tried scrambling into the end zone in Week 4. The play, and his subsequent one-game absence, was a reminder that no quarterback -- not even one who broke into the league with a patented "Superman" celebration -- can indefinitely absorb unnecessary punishment without consequence.?

     

    Ahead of Sunday's game in New Orleans, let's take a closer look at what Newton has exposed his body to during his six-year career. The Panthers say they won't limit his running or impose a fundamental change in their offense, but we'll consider a suggestion for lessening the toll nonetheless.

     

    Newton has been hit on 831 plays over 82 games in his career, an average of about 10 per game. The number may sound small, but it is actually extraordinary in the context of other quarterbacks. The next-closest quarterback has taken nearly 300 fewer hits over the same time period. This tally includes every play he has been hit on while either on the run or while throwing, but it is capped at one hit per play and doesn't include contact after the throw or on two-point conversions.

     

    Since 2011, the Panthers have called more than twice the number of designed runs for Newton than any other team has for another quarterback. And they have resulted in 1,941 rushing yards, more than double Russell Wilson's 833. Nearly two-thirds of Newton's designed QB runs have gone between the guards, where maximum contact occurs. Newton also has taken off on more scrambles -- runs when a pass play breaks down -- than anyone but Wilson over this span. In all, Newton has been hit at least once on 533 of 575 plays that were either designed runs or meaningful scrambles in his career.

     

    The difference is Newton got battered in the pocket far more than Allen does. Allen has elusiveness and escapability in the pocket few other QBs do. He makes people look silly most of the time when they get a free shot on him.

     

    Newton on the other hand was one of the most hit QBs in the NFL for numerous years.

    2 hours ago, GoBills808 said:

    His career was shortened imo as much by the amount of damage he took in the pocket as he did running. I’ve never seen an NFL quarterback get fewer calls than Newton ever.

     

    Newton for as good a runner as he was had almost no elusiveness inside the pocket. Dude got hit more than any QB in the NFL for numerous seasons. Something Allen excels at and takes fewer hits than the majority of the QBs in the league, even with his running because he is so elusive in the pocket. Even guys with free shots rarely make a tackle and sometimes barely lay a hand on him.

     

    People need to stop making these baseless comparisons with Newton. Allen takes far far far less hits than Newton. Allen might take the hits Newton did in a single year in three years.

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  8. 2 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

    The love for Brown is strange… he had some really rough outings in pass protection. Like put this guy on the bench bad. William was average to below average.

     

    He also road graded people in the run game taking out multiple players numerous times on the same play.

     

    Brown will be a good player for this team

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  9. 2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:


    i. Know.  It’s a cheeky way of pointing out how wrong your post was.

     

    the NFL is explicitly in the business of avoiding stadium building and foisting this on taxpayers instead.  
     

     

     

    it’s 9-10 figures of free money.  That’s a windfall by any known definition.

     

    They are in the business of building new stadiums to generate more revenues, seat licences and more luxury boxes. Obviously they will do their best to pay the least amount of money possible to do it. That doesn't change the fact they want to build as many new stadiums as possible.

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  10. 33 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

    Tua will improve as he begins to read defense better. He’s going to be a qb that beats you with timing, accuracy, and decision making. There is a lot of room to grow for Tua.


    We’ll just have to wait and see. If he learns to get the ball out on time and to the right WR he can be very good. Arm strength is a small part of playing QB.

     

    A small part until you need it on a key 4th down play late in the game down 5 points and you have to fit a ball into a right window.

     

    Then it's the difference between winning and losing.

     

     

  11. 17 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

    Their offense will be improved but man the dolphins and pats basically standing pat on defense is an absolute head scratcher. 
     

    tuas worse than a scrub for that franchise imo…I don’t mean talent wise but he’s that in betweener where you just don’t know if you should move on from him or not.

     

    Tua is good enough to keep as a starter but bad enough to never rest give you a shot to win much if anything.

     

    He is basically like Derek Carr but not quite as good.

  12. 1 hour ago, billsbackto81 said:

    I don't think he's a scrub, but nothing about him screams elite. Everybody says Allen wasn't anything special until they gave him weapons. Fair enough, but since Day 1 he ALWAYS gave you glimpses of ELITE arm strength, durability and overall athleticism. Outside of accuracy Tua hasn't shown much but maybe the influx of new talent helps his development. But, with his skill set I don't see him being a perennial All Pro or Pro Bowler for that matter. A serviceable and competent QB is pretty much all you can ask for.

     

    All you had to do was watch Allen's first road game and first start against Minnesota where he leapt over 6' 5" MLB Anthony Barr for a first down on 3rd and long, followed by running away from Barr on a scramble where he did a diving superman for the pylon of the end zone.

     

    Two plays I am not sure I have ever seen a Bills QB make in my lifetime.

     

    Under one full game(he played half a game the previous week against SD) to know this dude had something special to him.

     

    In Tua's entire career I doubt he has done anything even remotely close to as impressive as what Allen did in less than his first 60 minutes in the NFL.

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