Big Turk
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1 minute ago, Fan in Chicago said:
Coach can only do so much . But if the line indeed takes a step up, it will point to Bobby Johnson as having been a problem
Based on what he did when everyone and their Mom knew we were running the ball with Roman, and we still led the NFL in rushing, he can do a hell of a lot.
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Just now, Dablitzkrieg said:
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Lovable Lefty?
Lethal Lefty?
Boom Shaka Laka?
The Eraser?
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1 minute ago, TheBrownBear said:
Yeah. Color me NOT WORRIED. Just played one of the greatest games of all time, at home, against hated rival, in front of a packed and rabid fanbase, in the playoffs, against the GOAT coach, in 0 degree weather.
So, he had better stats on the road than at home last year in a season where Buffalo had exceptionally bad weather on numerous game days. Case seems open and shut to me.
I didn't say I was worried...more curious as to the why behind it, and No, I don't believe it can be 100% explained by the weather as some seem so eager to do.
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4 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:
Did you watch football last year? Colts was an away game. This is all you have to say after everything I just threw at you??
I think the more pertinent question is, did YOU watch football last year? It was clearly a home game.
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7 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:
I am requoting your original thread for 2 reasons. 1. take the first year out... does not if 2 numbers compare that first year the rest does not.
Second... this is the biggest one... your TITLE!
"Allen still is fairly significantly better on the Road than at Home. Splits don't lie. Thoughts as to why." what the heck is fairly significantly better supposed to even mean? your using 2 adverbs that mean 2 different things in front of the word "better".
many of us are ripping this whole theory to shreds and then you continue to add horrible narratives like
"he is more hyped up in home games"
"TO SOME DEGREE sure the weather But.." Degree? Weather?
"the majority of his bad games are at home as well" I mean do you really believe this? Did you watch the NE playoff game or any of the home games last year?
Other then the Steelers we dominated home games last year offensively
Seriously? is this whole thing just a well-hidden troll job or are you not reading anything you're writing down? and not reading all of our replies.
You're blowing away one bad narrative after another.. Can't teach accuracy... can't play in loud stadiums... I mean seriously? what is this?
Uh, the Colts game?
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1 minute ago, billsfan1959 said:
Patrick Mahomes has played 30 games at home and 33 on the road.
On the road, he has:
1) A higher win %
2) A higher completion % (over 3% higher)
3) A better TD to INT ratio (with 23 more TDs on the road)
4) A higher QB rating (10 pts higher)
5) A higher avg yard per attempt
6) A higher avg yards gained per attempt
7) A higher avg yards per game
WTF is wrong with him?
He's a bum...a bum I tell ya!
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1 hour ago, FilthyBeast said:
Obviously Beane, McDermott, and the entire lockerroom knows this hype and talk means nothing.
And my only hope is they learned from last year when they thought they were somehow going to cruise to the #1 seed after a meaningless win in KC early in the season. They went 3-5 after that game before waking up in the final month.
But yah nothing is guaranteed for this team and they have a better chance of being a 10 win team that just misses the playoffs or bounced in the first round then they do getting to a SB this year.
I liken it to the 88-89 Bills...went to the AFCCG in 88, didn't know how to mentally prepare for every teams best shot the year after and transition mentally from being the hunter to the hunted. In 1990 they figured it out...Kelly talked about it in his book at length, about the mental aspect of the game is so different as you go from the underdogs to the team that is expected to win...I think it is the same process this team had to go through before the light switch flipped on during halftime of the TB game. I expect them to take the NFL by storm this year.
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3 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:
You have to just be trolling at this point. Weather conditions vary from game to game in Buffalo and they were significantly worse in 2021 than in 2020.
Let me guess...I am supposed to believe they were also much worse in 2019 as well? In 2020 the Red Sea parted and the weather was perfect every game?
And yeah I know conditions vary in Buffalo, I've lived here over 40 years.
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10 minutes ago, NewEra said:
You’re assuming that the reason is being too hyped…..
Please show the statistical evidence that proves when he is “too hyped” and when he isn’t? Is it JUST playing at home? He played terrible @ jacksonville…maybe he was “too hyped” for that game?
To prove what you are trying to explain (he’s too hyped playing in front of the home crowd), you must show when or when he is not “too hyped” which is impossible. Was he too hyped vs the pats in the playoff game? Vs the colts in the playoff game? Two of his best games ever…..and they were at home in front of the home fans. He MUST have been “too hyped” amirite? At home in the playoffs….
what is the criteria for being “too hyped”……
and how can you differentiate between being too hyped and not? Is he too hyped before every home game? Because that’s what’s you’re insinuating by using all of his home stats as support.
Meanwhile we play in windiest stadium in the league….BY FAR. Several of the away games (which your insinuating that he wouldn’t be too hyped for) are played in domes with no elements. There are too many variable that you aren’t including.
either way you want to see it, I think you’re just wasting your time (and ours for reading it) with this thought.
carry on
Yeah that’s it man. Case closed. Josh gets too hyped at home and sucks…..sometimes
So did the stadium stop being windy in 2020? That's the whole point...he played an entire year with no fans WITH THE SAME WEATHER CONDITIONS as the year before and year after but didn't have the statistical dropoff he had the year before and year after with fans there. Why are you so willing to ignore that??
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Just now, Watkins101 said:
I really don’t get why people blame crowd noise at home for why Josh has slightly better stats on the road. I’m positive that Josh faces louder crowds when he is on the field on the road than at home, when fans generally try to quiet down and let the offense do their thing.
I don't think its crowd noise at home, I think it's him wanting to put on a show for the fans more at home and/or pushing too hard. Seems to let the game come to him more on the road and takes what he is given more often.
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2 minutes ago, NewEra said:
Oh man.
Do you really think Josh allen is worse playing at home because he’s too hyped?
do you REALLY believe this to be true?
Maybe. It fits with why the splits were almost identical in the year there were no fans and skewed towards the road in the year before and year after. Why would it be that hard to believe when he readily admits he is too hyped for home games and has to calm himself down? Are you calling him a liar?
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Just now, NewEra said:
Stop
Why? It is a completely valid observation backed by clear statistical evidence.
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5 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:
your going to just look at one stat? Seriously... you dont think the coaching held him back and tried to control the run game his first year cause our WR's were trash along with our line? you state SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER and I am telling you that is a pile of garbage.
I'm saying that his first year doesn't have much difference in home and road splits. They mostly were not good regardless of where he played. So it is the other years that are showing the difference in home/road splits, predominantly the 2019 and 2021 seasons where there were fans. In 2020 with no fans the splits were much closer than the other two years. Which is why I am suggesting him being too hyped in front of the fans is part of the reason for them.
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6 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:
CAREER.. Take that first year of learning out of the equation man... its not 5%.. We want what Josh can do at his full capabilities... no one is going to look at what josh did his rookie year and compare ANTHING from that year. period... did ya read anything i just said?
His first year was literally completely even completion percentage wise road and home splits(52.80 to 52.83%), so that year had no effect on it.
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1 minute ago, PrimeTime101 said:
It does matter. Winning always matters.
Throw his rookie season out the door... Learning season and Josh's stats were that year. Let's start year 2 where he vastly improved.
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You have to look at how home crowd Noise helps compared to silence year 2.
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Throw weather into it. We had games with brutal weather/winds.
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Last year.. we added a game. I look at the last 2 years and do not see anything significant enough to how you state that Josh is better in away games....
5% completion difference in his career is pretty significant over an almost even number of games(30-31). Rating down 9 points at home. More TDs and less INTs on the road.
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3 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:
I dont think anyone is saying there is an absolute rule, or he is never good at home. Just seems to do better on the road, in general.
OP isnt the first to notice this, and this isnt the first time it's been discussed. Plus, it's the offseason.
Yes...he for sure has really good games at home...but the majority of his really "bad" games seem to come at home as well. Can't really remember him having a terrible road game other than during his rookie year a few times. Maybe the Tennessee game in 2020 and oh yeah... the Jags game last year was brutal
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1 minute ago, Warcodered said:
A 3 game difference is a pattern?
Not wins-losses I am talking about...stats are significantly better on the road. 5% higher completion percentage in his career, passer rating 9 points higher, more TDs, fewer INTs, etc.
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1 minute ago, GoBills808 said:
The weather
To some degree sure...but the season with no fans where the splits were almost the same suggest there is more at play, especially considering the season before and after were tilted in favor of road splits.
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I still think it has to do with Allen becoming too hyped at home, even though he plays music to calm himself down, etc...
My basis for thinking this is because in 2020 when there were no fans, the splits were nearly identical, home and away, although he was still slightly better on the road. However, once the fans came back, again he was significantly better on the road, just as he was the prior year...which is pretty clear evidence that he either tries to do too much at home, is too pumped up to try and wow the home fans or there is something else going on. His rookie year he was pretty much even...mostly bad stat wise in both places.
2019 Split
2020 Split(no fans)
2021 Split(fans again)
Career
Don't get me wrong, I love the fact he lives for going into other teams houses, taking their lunch money and then laughing in their faces as they cry for Mommy, but it would be nice to see him get a little closer to his road performances at home on balance...
Also...the "more" primetime the game, the better he plays...improving each timeslot from early to afternoon to night.
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12 hours ago, Rocky Landing said:
Just bought tickets for myself, and my soon-to-be 12-year-old son Bruno to the Bills @ Rams game at SoFi.
OK seats, I suppose-- front row of the top tier, and they weren't cheap, considering the altitude. I haven't yet been to SoFi, but I'm told "there aren't any bad seats." We'll see... The last Bills game I attended was the Chargers debacle at Stubhub center (that's a 24,000 seat venue) where Nate Peterman schatt himself in the first half. I witnessed that abomination from the fourteenth row at the twenty yard line.
Fourteenth row at the twenty yard line for this game was listed at $1,850 a seat. So, I'm getting Bruno a set of binoculars for his birthday.
Are you going to step up on the stage and do the SoFi Money Dance??
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1 hour ago, Fan in Chicago said:
This is my single biggest concern about this roster, and also a source of frustration about the relative lack of attention to an area which is critical to protecting Allen. Beane did say after the season ended, that we need to protect Allen more. This is the single area where I don't see his words followed by adequate action. '
Besides OL, I dont see any position as short staffed.
Let's not forget how good a coach Kromer is...he will likely coach those guys up to perform pretty well if needed
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Is he the original "Schloppy Boy"?
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5 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:
Is the goal to eventually have every game on national TV?
When they are paying that type of money, they are going to get some concessions made to them.
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Strongest division foe?
in The Stadium Wall
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Can I say none?
I don't think any of them pose a credible challenge to the Bills.