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38 minutes ago, Hebert19 said:
Not shocking. Same reason why allen for mvp will be difficult. 2 December games in Buffalo means lots of running.
Why? Kelly routinely put up 300 yard passing games here in the playoffs.
This tired and factually incorrect narrative needs to die a quick painful death.
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1 hour ago, RaoulDuke79 said:
It reminds me of 80s music. It would have been great in Grand Theft Auto Vice City.
Reminds me of Rod Stewart songs but I still love it...
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2 hours ago, HardyBoy said:
The league used to run a lot more on first and second down, when the bills would have been in their base 3-4 defense. So, guessing the majority of his sacks came on third down...so were they running three on the dline on third down too, or switch to a nickle with two lbs and 4 dline?
I was in 4th grade during the last super bowl appearance, so I definitely was old enough to be a true fan of sports, but I had no idea what I was watching scheme wise (I still largely don't, lol), so genuine question.
With the amount of passes being thrown now I would imagine it is only a matter of time before his sack record is broken as players are getting far more attempts at them than they did back in the 1980s and 1990s
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5 hours ago, Doc said:
So you mean he'll retire after this season? Because Stidham was his idea of proving he can do it without Brady...until Cam fell into his lap. But he's finding it hard to win even with a 1st overall pick and former NFL MVP.
When you have the worst skill position players in the NFL that is what happens. Although Jakobi Meyers look like he actually might be pretty decent
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1 hour ago, JetsFan20 said:
Do you think his next act is as a GM/football czar?
Do you think he would be successful in that role or is he Phil Jackson 2.0?
He is actually a pretty bad GM overall. His last Pro Bowl player he drafted was Jamie Collins in 2013.
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4 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said:
first sentence sour grapes...boooo hooo i am going to call them "cheaters" your second sentence is you just unwilling to give any credit so i will let you sit on your hill.
whether it was BB first choice or last..what does that matter...he was drafted and developed under BB...
and if and when plans change..come find me to tell me "you told me so..."
you are delusional if you think someone drafts a QB in the 6th round and thinks they have drafted the QB GOAT
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2 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said:
If Bruce played in a 4-3 defense, he might've had 300 sacks. He's the only DE to AVERAGE double digit sacks over a (19 year) career.
# 78, was the greatest Buffalo Bill ever, IMO....Reggiewas a great player, but he couldn't hold Bruce's jock...
That's not true. Reggie White averaged 13.2 sacks per year over his 15 year career while Smith averaged 10.5 per year over his 19 year career. White averaged a little under 3 sacks per year more than Smith did per year.
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Haha...Jerry Hughes at the end says "If we aren't hearing about Josh Allen for MVP we ain't listening to it and we turning it off"
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41 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said:
I think I acknowledge the first sentence that every great coach has great players. So you need to direct that to your follow poster. Who also said he is just an average coach. Which he is far from that.
Next he didnt "luck" into Brady. Brady was a 6 round pick who everyone in the NFL past up on. He was not a projected first rounder who "fell" into BB lap. He was past on by everyone.
BB drafted him and helped developed him big part of this debate that gets glossed over. BB help Brady grow into a great QB. As you know history shows you great QBs are not late round picks....alot went into Brady's development and BB was apart of that. Adding to BB legend and complete asinine to think It was all Brady.
Belichick almost chose Tim Rattay over Brady...they literally were having a debate and only chose Brady because their QB coach Dick Rehbein loved Brady and was presented the choice of Brady or Rattay and he said Brady...ironically he passed away that summer at age 45 before Brady even played a single game.
35 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said:Oh and another thing. He plans on coaching for at least another 5 years he has said that already. I do not know why that is so hard to understand. Nothing happening right now is changing that. He wants to show he can do it without Brady so he is not "quitting" anytime soon. And again this is year one...not 5 years Into a patriots rebuilded.
Plans can change awfully quick at that age due to health concerns, etc...
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33 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:
I'll give you another shocking statistic! He wasn't even the best defensive end in the game while playing.
That was Reggie White.
Bruce Smith is still one of the all-time best Buffalo Bills, up there with OJ and only a few others.
I might have to agree with that actually...White finished his career with only 2 fewer sacks than Smith but played in 47 fewer games(279 for Smith to 232 for White). White's first year in the NFL was at age 24 versus age 22 for Smith, so they weren't old washed up years he missed either. Pretty apparent if White played in the equivalent of almost 3 more seasons worth of games he would have far outpaced Smith's record and would have had somewhere around 238 sacks if he kept up his .85 sacks/game average over his career.
Actually Pro Football Reference agrees as well, putting White #1 all time at DE with a career AV of 156, with Smith #2 at 147.
Their Hall of Fame Monitor also ranks White #1 at 237.75 points with Smith again #2 at 211.35.
No shame at this, White was an absolute monster as well...crazy how what might be the 2 best DE's in NFL history(Deacon Jones might want to chime in) both were contemporaries to each other
17 minutes ago, Protocal69 said:That isn’t true. To play a 3-4 defensive end and to be top 5 in sacks every year is crazy. Reggie White is all time great but Reggie White had more help on the Defensive line as a 4-3 defensive end.
That is also true...the edge rushers in a 3-4 scheme are typically the 2 OLB's whereas the DE's are usually bigger and more stout to defend the run. I wonder what Smith would have done in a 4-3 scheme. So how many sacks did Smith miss out on from a scheme standpoint that he would have gotten in a 4-3??
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2 minutes ago, H2o said:
Steroids cause your body to break down eventually.
Gotcha...that would explain it...he wasn't even a full time starter the last 4 seasons it appears, even in the season he had 13.5 sacks, he only started 12 games but played in all 16.
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7 minutes ago, scuba guy said:
Also ny Jets
Mark gastineu
Gastineau led the NFL twice in back to back years with 19 and 22 sacks in 1983 and 1984. He also unofficially had 20 sacks in 1982, the year before the NFL started keeping track of them and his teammate Joe Klecko had 20.5 that year as part of the "New York Sack Exchange" line that unofficially recorded 66 between the 4 linemen.
He only had one other year in double digits with 13.5 before really fading badly over the next 3 years...
I was always a little amazed at how he faded so quickly...was there an injury that caused his rapid decline? Something else?
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I had to double check this but it is true...totally crazy!
In Smith's best year when he had 19 sacks in 1990, Derrick Thomas of the Chiefs had 20. His second highest total was 15 in 1986 when Lawrence Taylor had 20.5 and Smith was actually 5th after Taylor, Dexter Manley with 18.5, Reggie White with 18, and Sean Jones with 15.5. He had 14 3 times and 13 twice as well.
In all, Smith had 13 seasons where he had double digit sacks. 12 were with the Bills, the other was his second season in Washington at age 37.
He did lead the NFL twice in forced fumbles with 5 in 1994 and 1996, and is 8th in career forced fumbles with 43. Robert Mathis is all time leader in forced fumbles with 54. Julius Peppers 2nd at 52. Active leaders are Chandler Jones and Robert Quinn tied with 27.
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Bennett...Kelly said halfway through his first game against the Broncos he was being triple teamed because he was wrecking them that day
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On 5/6/2020 at 12:19 PM, yungmack said:
I think some of you are underestimating the Jets. I think they are going to be the Bills main competition if Darnold stays healthy.
Care to make a statement regarding this exceptionally bad take?
5 hours ago, SirAndrew said:I’m not the guy to get worked up about the media doubting the Bills. GMFB has always given this team a lot of credit, so I don’t mean this as a complaint. However, I did find some interesting misinformation in that segment. You’d think Kyler Murray was the QB of more than a 5-3 team, and we actually did very well shutting down Lamar last season. They discussed how poorly our D performed against Jackson, but we were actually one of the more successful teams at slowing him. Additionally, the Seahawks, even without a defense were thought of being better than the Cards. I’m not sure how a win over the Cards should stop anyone from doubting us. The win over the Seahawks should have been able to do that. I’m not guaranteeing a win this Sunday, but the Cards are just a 5-3 middling team imo.
We held the Ravens to like 265 yards and 24 points when they were putting up 400-500 yards and 40+ points every week...we actually wrote the book that the other teams copied on how to slow them down. Tennessee basically stole our gameplan in the playoffs. Incredibly bad take by them. I expect more from that show and especially Kyle Brandt since he is a huge Bills fan.
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I LOVE Blinding Lights!
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8 minutes ago, Greg S said:
If he did leave NE I wonder if he would retire or go back to the NYG. He has said he loved his time there and has a great respect for the organization. He did win there as a DC for Parcells. If Bill was going to leave NE and not retire it would be for NYG. To restore the pride and tradition and win it all for the NYC market might make him accept that challenge. Assuming of course the Giants would also be interested. They have been a train wreck for about 8 years now so I bet they would think about it.
I was referring to retiring not coaching somewhere else.
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A lot but it will be worth it because we will be contenders year in and year out for 10-12 or more years.
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40 minutes ago, Virgil said:
Arizona 37
Buffalo 24
Bills don’t show up for this game as they are riding high off the Seattle win and ready for their bye week. Murray puts on a show and we get to watch those highlights for two weeks
Fully possible but I would be shocked if this team wasn't focused with a chance to head into the bye 8-2.
That being said this score is entirely possible even if they are focused.
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Bills 34
Cards 31
Another no punt game out west coming up?
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12 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
Yes. QB is by far the hardest position to evaluate. I remember being literally the only one on this board watching college film of Allen and saying man, he looks like Cam Newton without Cam's play making and killer instincts. Then he gets to the NFL and he's playing like Cam Jr. Then last year he plays even more like MVP Cam. Then all of a sudden he turns into this combination of MVP Cam Newton and Ben Roethlisberger overnight. If Allen continues to play like this I don't think the NFL has ever seen anything like him. Maybe Steve Young or Elway.
Neither of them had Allen's arm...and Elway had a cannon. Allen can literally throw the ball so fast the camerman can't pan fast enough. So there were times early on in his career where Allen throws the ball and you see him throw it and then you see the receiver running with the ball but you never saw the ball actually get to the receiver.
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So either Taron Johnson correctly passed him off to White who wrongly doubled the slot receiver or Johnson let his man go and thought they were playing a normal cover 2 and he had the short pass area...
It looks like Johnson screwed up because when he realized his mistake he took off running trying to get back there but unless one of them tells us who screwed up we probably won't know for sure.
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5 hours ago, whatdrought said:
Prompted by someone mentioning the fans response to Norwood after the miss, and looking at some articles from then, I’m curious... what do you think happens in the following 3 years is the kick goes in?
I think we probably go to one more SB and probably lose. Probably not the year after we would have won it either.
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No not necessarily but if they can't practice all week, what is the likelihood they are going to contribute in any meaningful way on Sunday?
More likely they cause more problems than they solve at that point.
Ok This Dolphins talk is getting out of hand.
in The Stadium Wall Archives
Posted · Edited by matter2003
It won't be until 4 or 5 games when DCs have enough tape to come up with specific gameplans to stop Tua that we will truly know how good he is this year.
Right now there isn't enough tape out there and the first 4 games are always the easiest for a young QB to look good in since teams don't have any real info on him yet.
Once teams can gameplan against him we will see what he has. And he may still be really good. But it's far too early to just assume that after 2 games.
We get them week 17 in Buffalo and I think we will have something for them then.