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By the way, no discussion of Asper vs. James Brown, whom ESPN lists as a guard, and whom the Bills had in for a pre-draft visit? I really don't know anything about either one, but some of you hardcore draftniks must have an opinion.
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Yeah, seriously. You can read between the lines in all of Nix & Gailey's O-line quotes. They're smart enough and classy enough not to throw their current guys under the bus, but they saw the same thing we all did last year -- the O-line was made to look good b/c of the quick-release offense. And we struggled mightily against teams who realized that you only have to cover our receivers for 2.5-3 seconds.
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A couple head-scratchers, but overall I really like this draft. If it pans out as well as last year's, we'll have a really nice core. Hopefully we can get our future franchise QB in the 1st round next year, and our stud WR in the 2nd. It's unlikely (but not impossible!) that any big WR drafted from here on out will do anything. Usually the guys with prototypical size who can actually play go early.
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This post legitimately blew my mind. I don't what that says about me, but I still like the pick!
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Surprised it wasn't James Brown, whom they had in for a visit. I know nothing about this guy, but I like the fact they grabbed another O-lineman.
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Still some good talent available .....
Cash replied to Don't stop billievein's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
The Bills brought in Cousins for a visit, so if he's still there, he could be the pick. I don't see him doing anything in the NFL, though, so I'd prefer if they went in another direction. I wonder, if McNutt was still there, would he be a consideration? Nix openly talked about potentially drafting 2 WRs, and they still haven't added any size or physicality to the WR corps, so it could be a possibility. I more expect the next pick to be either a LB or another CB -- we know Nix wants to draft 2 CBs. I also expect 1-2 D-line picks at some point, and another O-lineman in the 6th or 7th. -
I do love the people who can't differentiate between a guy who likes smoking pot and a guy who beats the crap out of his woman, or punches a cop in the face, or FIRES A GUN REPEATEDLY INSIDE A CROWDED CLUB (strip or otherwise) AND PARALYZES ANOTHER HUMAN BEING WITH ONE OF THE SHOTS. That last one is really a big deal.
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THIS IS BANANAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ugh. This totally killed my Glenn boner. On the bright side, 3rd-round picks aren't exactly golden boys, so if he's as bad as the 7th-round grade Mayock had on him, he'll be cut in 2013. Plus, you know who else had a 7th-round grade? STEVIE JOHNSON, THAT'S WHO! Maybe that's our strategy: With Stevie (7th round), Jones (UDFA), and Nelson (UDFA), they figured that they needed another guy with a 7th-round grade, but were too impatient to wait till tomorrow. Whatever, let's hope he pans out, but I'll believe it when I see it. I will say that for a guy billed as a pure athlete, his combine numbers are very underwhelming. Small hands could lead to a lot of drops. Excellent 3-cone time and decent broad jump, but balanced somewhat by a weak 20-yard shuttle time and vertical. You probably can throw out his position-worst bench press (after hearing 8,000 preseason quotes about how strong Donald Jones was last year, I can safely say that strength is not the principle factor in WR success. That's like a 5'3" guy saying, "How can I be short? I'm standing next to Verne Troyer!" I was going to point this out, but you beat me to it. For the record, I got over the trade-up aspect of this pick once I saw the compensation. The Bills gave up literally the worst pick in the 2012 draft that they're allowed to trade. Whoever they would've gotten at 217 could easily still be there with their comp. pick, and whoever they would've gotten at the comp. pick could easily sign with them as an UDFA. (And neither guy is likely to ever start an NFL game.) And drafting a P in the 3rd round definitely seems like a panic move when the guy you were counting on drafting just got picked. So if Teej Graham over here proves everyone wrong, the Bills may look very savvy in hindsight. Again, I'll happily recant if that happens, but not until it happens. Not directing this at anyone in particular, but it bothers me when Pollyanna-stylee fans jump all over anyone who ever criticizes any pick in any way. "You can't judge a draft pick until after 3 years!!" Yeah, but when the consensus proves right, and these guys bust, we get yelled at for dredging it up 3 years later. Enough with the shouting down already. I don't like the 100% negative posters either, but I don't see a big difference between screaming about every move the Bills make/don't make and screaming about every comment about the Bills that isn't total fluffing. Remember, people, they haven't made the playoffs since 1999. That's bad. Their record under the current GM/coach combo is 10-22. That's bad. Torell Troup was criticized for being a reach. Two years in, that criticism looks accurate. Not all of the Bills' picks in this draft will turn out to be excellent picks. Maybe this one, which at face value looks like a reach, will turn out to be one of the non-excellent ones. Is it so unimaginable that the Bills could screw up on a 3rd-round pick? Except for the trolls, we all want the Bills to succeed. We all want their picks to turn into Pro Bowlers. We're not criticizing because we hate them, it's because we have rational cause to think that they made a bad move. A cynic is just a disappointed idealist. To those of you who can sit through 12 years of futility and remain idealists, congratulations. But please understand that that's not everyone's experience. Some people don't have the resilience (a.k.a., ability to ignore reality ) to keep assuming that everything the team does will be proven right. Bottom line: if I had to sit through literally millions of posts last preseason talking about how great Donald Jones was going to be as a #2 WR, then you guys have to put up with a few pages of bitching about an obvious reach. That's the deal.
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RD 2, Pick #41: OT Cordy Glenn - Georgia
Cash replied to Beerball's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Nah, Kiper says he "doesn't know" that Glenn can play LT in the NFL, not that he can't. Translation: Kiper thinks that Glenn probably will wind up moving to OG, but wouldn't be shocked if he made it at OT. He liked the pick, and liked Glenn at least as much as Jonathan Martin. -
RD 2, Pick #41: OT Cordy Glenn - Georgia
Cash replied to Beerball's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HAPPY! I absolutely adore this pick. A couple weeks ago, I thought he'd be the pick at #10. Glenn really fits the Buddy Nix mold of O-line: A true man-mountain with gargantuan arms, a 4-year starter (granted, only 18 games at LT) in the SEC, and even if he doesn't make it at LT (I think he will), he's a VERY strong bet to make it at RT or either guard spot. Great, great pick. And for those of you who don't think he can play LT: I hope that means you also think Hairston can't play LT, because Glenn is a significantly better LT prospect today than Hairston was a year ago. I'm very surprised he fell this far. As dogma+ said, we really had two 1st-round picks this year. Awesome! -
Luckily LT is a position where no one ever gets hurt, and Hairston specifically has never gotten hurt, so we're rock-solid there. Also luckily no opposing defense was able to shut down our offense by sitting on short routes and daring Fitz to hold on to the ball for more than 2.5 seconds. But mostly I'd like to +1 the avatar/Oktoberfest talk. I was there in 2009, and need to get back.
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What an ass. (The caller, not Sanu.)
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I don't see Glenn lasting to 41. Particularly since he's a very strong OG prospect in addition to being a high-upside but risky OT prospect.
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In Chris Brown's live chat last night, he was asked about Massie, and said that the Bills' top scout considered him a RT only. I doubt they would feed misinformation to their own reporter, so I'd be pretty surprised to see Massie drafted. Always could be a situation where the scout's opinion differs from the GM's, but it seems like the Bills are pretty much on the same page usually. I'm hoping they trade up. It shouldn't take more than one of their 4th rounders, assuming someone's willing to move back. The main reason I'm hoping they trade up is that it means that one of the guys still available has a much higher grade on their board than the others at his position. (My guess is it would be Glenn, but what do I know?) The amateur draftniks tend to be happiest when you get the last prospect in a tier, because they consider them all pretty much equal and whoever drafts last gets the best "value." But I'm not in love with the idea of the Bills seeing essentially no difference between 3-5 very different prospects in Glenn/Martin/Adams/maybe Massie and/or Brown, and just settling for whichever falls to them. I feel like that's not a recipe for success. I'd much prefer that they have a specific one they really like, because they see how his skill set fits into their system in a way that the other players' skill sets don't. A trade up would signify that they see a big difference in fit. Of course, a similar situation happened when the Bills traded up in round 2 to draft Poz over David Harris, but that was a different scouting staff. They also way overpaid, giving up a high 3 to move up a few spots in the 2nd. (Which would've been fine if Poz had turned out as good as David Harris.)
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I am surprised that they didn't do the ol' "competition makes everyone better" song and dance. They must think they can get something for McCoy? I doubt they will.
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Smart move, especially when the player in question is a CB. Unless he's the next Deion, Nnamdi, or Revis, he's going to get beat from time to time, and no Bills fan will be happy about that.
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Question about Gilmore and Revis
Cash replied to DefenseWinzChampionshipz's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Revis got toasted in our first game against him. It was a classic "throw it at the rookie" game. He looked a LOT better in the second game, and much, much better still in every game thereafter. -
Cordy Glenn's still on the board!
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RD 1, Pick #10: DB Stephon Gilmore - South Carolina
Cash replied to SDS's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I'm fine with this pick. Big, fast, strong, ath-a-letic, etc. Let's just hope he pans out better than McKelvin. And speaking of whom, here's 2 reasons to like this pick better than the McKelvin pick at the time: 1.) McKelvin was lauded on draft day in large part because of his kick return ability. To which I said, "Who cares? We already have McGee and Parrish." McKelvin turned out to be a pretty decent (if really boneheaded) return man, but who cares about return ability in the first half of the draft? Tell me how good he'll be on regular plays. 2.) I didn't do a lot of pre-draft research except for WRs that year, so I didn't know much about McKelvin or any of the other top corners. I remember finding out that McKelvin was 5'11" after we drafted, and being fairly disappointed. There's a big difference between 6'1" and 5'11". Anyway, let's hope ol' Gilly pans out. -
No, I'm pretty sure that He-Man and the Masters of the Universe wasn't on until the 80's.
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Yeah, but we hear that about a safety prospect every year. Polamalu and Reed are the only two who have really impacted games at the level you'd like from a top 10 pick. It's a lot more likely that Barron is the next LaRon Landry than the next Ed Reed. And considering that we already have good starters and good depth at both safety proper and LB/SS dime sub, I don't see the point. If they draft Barron and he becomes another Polamalu or Reed, I'll shut up. But he probably won't. He'll probably become a good starter who doesn't make a huge impact on W/L record. That's not much of an upgrade over what we've got now. Same logic as to why Spiller remains a horrible pick. Spiller played well in the second half last year, and looks like a legit player. But to justify a top 10 pick when we already had Fred Jackson and Marshawn Lynch (both of whom had better years than Spiller last year, and way better years in 2010), Spiller needed to come in as a rookie and play like Chris Johnson. To date, he still hasn't.
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Didn't she front a rock band as well?
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Bills Trade for Veteran WR with #10?
Cash replied to WickedGame's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Didn't want Bowe as a free agent, don't want him now that the price has changed from just a big contract to a big contract + the #10 pick. -
If we elect the player you want
Cash replied to Clippers of Nfl's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Brandon Weedon's the only guy who's even eligible for Congress, right? But I don't think he can get elected. -
Just watched the Gruden QB with Russell Wilson. Sold.
Cash replied to HornellBillsFan's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
After reading this breakdown, I'd be very comfortable with Wilson as a mid-round pick. The height thing is always gonna be there, but I don't worry about it too much. In the first round, especially the top of the first round, you should stick to guys with no perceived holes in their game: prototypical size, great athleticism, no off-field problems, great college production, great work ethic, etc. But once you get to the later rounds (at all positions, but especially at QB), the only way a guy is going to come through is if he's being overlooked for some reason. And there is definitely a strong bias against short QBs. There's also legit reasons why you want a tall QB, sure. But if Flutie can be a good NFL starter, and Brees can be an elite NFL starter, then someone else in that height range can have success, too*. I don't know if it'll necessarily be Wilson, but someone will, and whoever it is will probably be drafted later than he should because there's a bias against short QBs. In a similar vein, I don't worry about Brock Osweiler being too tall at 6'7". "But there's never been a good QB that tall!" Yeah, because very few humans get to that height in the first place, and the ones that do are mostly unathletic. And then, the miniscule amount who are that tall and athletic enough to play sports at an extremely high level usually go into basketball or volleyball, not football. So the sample size is ridiculously small, and nothing can be drawn from it. Eventually there will be a good QB that tall (for the record, I don't think it'll be Osweiler). And unlike short QBs, where their height really does pose a greater challenge than a 6'5" QB, there's no reason I can think of that a 6'7" or 6'8" guy would be hurt by his height. *I could also count 6'0" Mike Vick here, but I don't think that's fair. His athleticism at the QB position, both in terms of arm and legs, is so far away from any other QB I've seen that he's really in a class by himself.