Fingon

Where did i say the pats are doomed? Oh wait, you are just a douche bag and like to put words into people's mouths.

There have been a few complete busts. Mayo is the only decent draft pick they've had in the last few years. The Pats are building for the future, and there's nothing wrong with that. This move screams salary dump, though.

There is no doubt that their team will be worse than if they didn't make the trade, for the next few years. They will have to wait 2 years for the pick, and then they will have to wait 2-3 years for that player to develop (if he does at all).

It makes the Pats a much weaker team for 3-4 years.

They traded him because they don't want to pay both him and Wilfork.

good teams keep 4-5 RBs when they can't decide who is going to start for them (NE). Many good teams regularly keep 3 RBs.

Agreed... Demetrius Bell, Fred Jackson, and Steve Johnson all suck.

It's not like Lynch is gone for 8 games. He's gone for 3. We have 3 RBs on our roster.

Rhodes DID NOT outplay Omon in the preseason. Omon ran 29 times for 79 yards 1 TD and 6 rec for 90 yards. Rhodes ran 19 times for 64 yards 1 TD and 4 catches for 21 yards. He also fumbled twice, which is absolutely inexcusable for a RB.

The odds overwhelmingly point to the Bills not needing a 3rd running back for the first 3 games. Go B word about something else.

Wasn't Stupar cut by another team before we picked him up?

Per Chris Mortenson http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp...tory?id=4449839

So you are right and the NFL scouts are wrong? Who is Mathis' RDE again? Yeah, the last time Kelsay had a producer on the right side, he had 5.5 sacks.

John, since Kelsay is obviously a terrible DE, why wasn't he cut? We all know that he is clearly the worst in the league.

The fact is that our defense was very good on 3rd down last year. You can't debate that with anything other than non-specific anecdotal evidence. I can present scout's opinions, and stats that show that Kelsay does not "suck. You can keep bitching, but I don't know what world you live in where you expect our LDE to rack up the sacks.

Kelsay isn't the problem. It's the ineffectiveness of our RDE that is the problem. The 4-3 defense feeds off the pass rush of the RDE, just as the 3-4 needs a good OLB. Kelsay has shown that he can be a good complimentary DE when there is someone good on the other side. Again, Kelsay isn't the best pass rusher, but a DEs don't just rush the passer. If i were you, I would be focusing more of my hate against Aaron Schobel. It's HIS job to rack up the sacks. HE is the RDE. Kelsay does his job fairly well, and that is why he was not cut. The 7-9 record last year was NOT on the defense. The D played well enough to get us into the playoffs, it was the offense that did not.

It's called selective memory. No one remembers the big stop with 5 minutes left, they only remember the drive right after the offense gets the ball back and goes 3 and out.

How do you know Kelsay will suck in 2009? We haven't played a regular season game yet.

Obama would have to be retarded to not let Van Jones go. Keeping him around will only bring more bad press and even lower poll numbers.

Wendling or Corto

Really? This team is very good on 3rd down.

Since when do star DEs make $5 million a year? You could cut Kelsay, but we would only be gouged even more in the run game. Kelsay is being paid like an average DE, and it would only make us worse to cut him.

Kelsay is an average DE. To say he sucks is retarded, and in case you didn't notice... LDEs are used more for stopping the run, rather than rushing the passer. LDE's generally don't get sacks because they are bigger, and the QB can see them coming.

You can be a decent pass rusher and not get sacks. Especially at LDE.

Let's see what the scouts have to say about him, shall we?