2020 Our Year For Sure

Yes yes yes

Haha I hear you, can't wait for this thing. To me edge does make more sense in the first because there's an open spot in the nickel as you say. I'm not so enthused to draft a lineman at 19 if they're a backup most of the time.

Thank you to you and others for a pleasant and informative thread here. If I may play the cantankerous voice of dissension... There's a stat making the rounds that modern defenses are in the nickel or dime on 65 percent of snaps. I wonder if you or others would be willing to elaborate on how a 3 tech 5 tech type of lineman can help on these two thirds of our plays when Marcell and Kyle are already in place as outstanding DTs for a 4 man front. This not to mention we've burned 1.7m of our precious little cap space to retain Corbin Bryant presumably to be their primary backup. Are we talking about life after Kyle Williams, and accepting that Bryant is a waste of money and the 19th pick is on the bench as a rookie more often than not? Or is Kyle Williams an 8m backup more often than not? Or are we counting on one of these behemoths to be an edge rusher and play nickel DE? Seems like if this is the pick we'd have been better off cutting at least one of Kyle and Bryant loose. Hindsight being 20 20 of course. But still with money so tight this offseason I wish we would have planned this thing out better than seeing healthy major resources riding the pine so often. I have similar questions about the base scheme. If the pick is Rankins or Jones my understanding is that for the rook to play alongside dareus and Kyle, big 99 would have to play the nose, meaning we're largely wasting our best player. Alternatively we could address this in like the 5th round rather than the 1st, drafting a nose tackle and having half a chance of getting pass rush production from the 100m dollar man. I guess if I'm boiling it down I'm asking why we need 4 different 3‐down‐capable 300 pound linemen, and whether that is the optimal use of our paltry resources.

Makes sense from where I sit.

Our D was nasty those couple of years. I wasn't saying pass rushers aren't important or anything like that. I'll tell you this though I wouldn't want seantrel Henderson lined up against Bruce Smith. I actually voted for creating a sack being more important than preventing one but the conversation went on a tangent away from the poll. Rex pass rush is less about premier pass rushing talent and more about confusion. After reading hof Watkins posts I have to wonder what is the point of paying Glenn 12m a year for his pass blocking when the opponent can simply move their stud edge rusher to the sieve on the opposite side? Maybe in today's league you get more value from a left tackle who can protect once a likewise investment is made on the other side. None of this mentions my primary reason for wanting a tackle, that we're a run first offense and even our passing game is created by running the ball.

A single protector yes but bookend tackles neutralize edge rushers.

Makes a great deal of sense to think ahead this way.

Only a flesh wound there be no need to bring out our dead. Me mother was a hamster you see, we're survivors.

A little I'm hurt but not yet slain

These lists are not complete. I count only 4 players on the nix list that worked out better than Manny Lawson yet Lawson is not mentioned. Where are Corey Graham nickell robey and Dan Carpenter. If half decent rotational players like alex carrington and cj spiller are check marks for nix then where are Corbin Bryant jarius wynn Preston Brown kiko etc for Whaley. Edit Kyle Orton too

So nobody can disagree without being accused of this bbfs. I'm a Whaley believer but that seems like a cheap shot not to mention a logical fallacy.

I agree he'd start there now and indicated as much. I agree he might be interested. I just think it makes no sense for the Bills to risk getting worse at the most pivotal position in the game for the sake of draft picks.

I believe it was reported that Denver actually offered him more money than we did. After sitting for 4 years in Baltimore Tyrod wanted a real chance to play. I wouldn't be surprised to learn Tyrod would love to be in Denver but I would be surprised to learn he's willing to hold out to make that happen. Holding out when he's so close to the big money with the Bills is a risky play and not what I'd expect from the guy who watched flacco bet on himself and earn his contract the hard way and then did the same by taking less money in Buffalo.

So Dareus at DE even in 4 man fronts?

Competition for Miller too.

Do you not think it's possible to have watched that game and come away from it not knowing who stripped Lee Evans? There's no test afterward. I watch all the primetime games and all day every Sunday and had only heard of Brown. It's not like I'm trying to remember the name of every player who makes a tackle. Still the who posts are inane I think we agree there. I'm glad you're as learned as you are and thanks for the info.

Do we ever two gap in the nickel? Or does Rex consistently let them rush? I suspect the latter...?

After this year we tag him and sign him. I don't see anything decaying just an agent doing his job while Tyrod calmly prepares to play.

It really does seem this way.

I feel the same way and campaigned for him to go. Now I'm in the hope against hope stage.

I see 10 winnable games there. Cmon Rexy, prove us wrong.

Not too surprising considering Micromanaging Marrone came from there.

Very true. I wonder what kind of deal a guy like this can get.