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4 hours ago, Buffalo03 said:
How much better are the 49ers than the Packers? Where would you rank the Packers?
who cares?
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6 minutes ago, Pokebball said:
Why then, doesn't KC do that every series, all game long?
The answer, of course, the odds/risk doesn't support doing so.
I can't believe I really have to argue this point...having four chances to get a first down makes it easier to score than than having only three. Teams don't do it all game long because in certain circumstances--depending on field position, number of yards needed to pick up the first, and the score of the game--punting makes more sense. There simply is no question that an offense has a better chance of scoring on any given series if they have four plays to work with instead of three.
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6 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:
Shhh only Beane makes draft busts and takes too many players on defense according to some here.
It does fly in the face of a popular narrative around here…
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3 hours ago, Dubie54 said:
I don't see a whole lot of press for this guy but he has been nothing short of amazing with what he has put together in KC and how he has managed the draft and turn over of personnel without missing a beat.
Just looking at the D, I was blown away last night when it was said that Chris Jones is the only remaining guy on D from their SB of 4 years ago. Here's a look at the draft over that span.
2020: Willie Gay - 63
Sneed - 138
2021: Bolton - 58
2022: McDuffie - 21
Karlaftis - 30
2023: Uzomah - 31
I would love to see somebody go through all of the FA deals he made over this time to complement the draft picks. Amazing stuff.
Sure their rookie deals will start to expire and KC will probably not be able to re-sign all of them, but he turned the entire over in 4 years and they still won the SB, so there's no reason to think he can't do it again.
And since 2018, KC has had 24 picks in the first four rounds of draft…they picked 17 defensive players, and of the 7 offensive players, most have been busts. Go figure.
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11 minutes ago, DrBob806 said:
49ers simply won the weaker conference. They would have lost to just about all 7 of the AFC playoff teams.
Absolutely. The NFC doesn't have a single elite QB...the AFC has at least six.
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28 minutes ago, Process said:
The guy gets praised as an offensive genius and rightfully so, but he sure does choke in big games.
3 superbowls with double digit leads. 3 losses. (2 as HC)
Several examples of players not executing last night, including fumbles and missed passes, so not all coaching. But it starts at the top and Bills fans should know, it's hard to overcome a HC that puts the team in bad spots.
Questionable calls on multiple key third downs, not prepared at all for KC blitz
Stretch where it seemed like he got away from the run too much
Could have got the ball back before halftime with 50 seconds and 1TO, but elected to let the clock run out
Chose to receive in OT, which is inexcusable IMO. And then made it even worse by kicking the FG instead of going for a TD
Players didn't even know the overtime rules until they saw it on the jumbotron before OT
My working theory is that Shanahan didn't know the overtime rules, either. It's the only explanation for that bizarre decision to take the ball first.
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3 minutes ago, Pokebball said:
That of course wasn't the point. In these new NFL rules, a FG isn't in the bag. A team has to drive the length of the field to score either way.
If giving Mahomes 4 downs every series is such a sure thing, why doesn't KC do that all game long?
I'm not arguing one way or the other with these new NFL rules. I'm simply saying having to drive the entire field is a thing.
You don't see a distinct advantage in having four plays to make a first down instead of just three?
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1 hour ago, pigpen65 said:
Chiefs play mistake free in big games. The Bills don't.
You mean like Mecole Hardman fumbling the ball through the endzone on a play that should have put the Chiefs up two scores?
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8 minutes ago, Pokebball said:
The huge difference, comparing to college overtime, is that you can argue that you begin your possession with a FG in the bag.
Both teams have that "advantage" in college.
In the NFL, the team that has the ball first is forced to play "conservative" three-down football the entire length of the field and, if they manage to score, the other team gets to play four-down offensive football. Against a QB like Mahomes, that's game over.
5 minutes ago, ExWNYer said:Your convictions are just that, yours. They are neither right nor wrong.
What a bizarre comment. Care to address the substance of what I said, you know, with logic?
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6 minutes ago, ExWNYer said:
Correct.
While I was in the "take the ball second" camp, there simply isn't enough live data yet to support either position. It was said somewhere today that 120,000 simulations were run and taking the ball first, I believe, resulted in a win 50.2% of the time. Statistically, it is 50/50.
That's a cop-out. All you have to do is look at college football to know that the team that has the ball second in that situation has a HUGE advantage. I know the college rules are a little different, but the principle is the same: Much better to know what you need to do on your first possession and potentially have the advantage of utilizing a four-down offense. In fact, the advantage might be even more pronounced under the NFL rules because the offense has the advantage of playing four-down football the entire length of the field, not just from the opponent's 25 yard line.
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1 hour ago, Big Turk said:
I'd always prefer to know exactly what I need rather than letting the other team know exactly what they need, especially when there is no result that ends the game in that situation.
This is really it. KC and Mahomes knew they needed at least three points, so until they got inside the SF 40-yardline the Chiefs were operating with an extra down--a huge advantage that Purdy did not have on SF's possession. And if the Niners had scored a TD on their drive, that advantage becomes more--not less--pronounced, because the Chiefs are operating with four downs the entire length of the field. Mahomes with four downs to work with in that situation is pretty much unstoppable. As I said, it's almost like Shanahan was unaware of the rule change...that's really the only logical explanation for his decision.
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1 minute ago, sunshynman said:
Any squares I have ever played are payouts at end of 1st, half, end of 3rd, end of game. I won $500 last night for end of game! And I thought 5-2 were crap numbers.
Same
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2 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:
Jesus Christ. just because we shoot ourselves in the foot doesn't mean we aren't better. Both 13 seconds and the playoff game against them this year would have been ours I'd a few plays go different. How many teams can say they went into Arrowhead 3 years straight and beat them? Not many
Good grief…we got every single possible break this year against the Chiefs and lost at home. We recovered three of our own fumbles, got the Hardman fumble through the EZ and got most every call by the officials…and still lost. Give it a rest.
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6 hours ago, SaulGoodman said:
Also, there seems to be a lot of revisionism regarding Buffalo’s talent. Leading up to the divisional round, almost every Bills fan was predicting a win and a run to the SB. Only after the game did I see the claim that they lacked the talent to do it.That’s the thing about the postseason…it reveals truths about your team that might not have been apparent in the regular season.
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4 hours ago, VaMilBill said:
I have no idea why any coach would take the ball first in overtime in the playoffs. If your defense is supposedly that good and you trust them to get a stop, kick it. Let them get the stop, force a punt and get better field position and higher chances for getting the requisite yards for a FG
If your defense stinks and will just allow a TD anyways, you know exactly what you need on offense and have four downs per set of downs to achieve it. Plus if you do score a TD, and your defense stinks, just go for 2 and win the game with your offense and don’t give the other team another chance once it goes to sudden death.
It doesn’t seem like a cosmic idea to me. What do I know.
Under the new playoff OT rules, it’s a firing offense to take the ball first. It’s almost like Shanahan didn’t know the rule. Absolutely the worst coaching blunder I’ve ever seen in a Super Bowl.
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2 hours ago, Comebackkid said:
id put oliver in either very good or lower elite.. actually prefer very good. he gets shut down against good lines. u dont see him doing what donald was doing.
He’s nowhere near as good as Chris Jones. Not even close.
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3 hours ago, gonzo1105 said:
First lets start by saying I hate their guts if only because of how good they are every year and they most years eliminate our Buffalo Bills. I will also fully recognize that probably this post will get crapped on by most Bills fans but the truth hurts sometimes.
This post will be an extension of another poster bringing it up but the reason why the Chiefs win every year is because they have the most top end players and coaching in the league and they always show up when the lights are the brightest.
Patrick Mahomes- Is the best QB in the league. Comes through 95% of the time with the game on the line and very rarely fails come playoff time. Josh Allen is a very close 2nd but doesn't have the supporting cast that he does.
Creed Humphrey/Joe Thuney, Trey Smith- Individually 2 out of the 3 could be in the argument for the best Center and Guard at their positions in the league and collectively are definitely the best interior line in football.
Travis Kelce- Maybe not the best TE this season and was shut down very early in the Super Bowl but as the game rolled on there was his presence. No bigger than the 22 yard scamper down the sideline to tie the game at the end of regulation. 9 catches for 93 yards.
Chris Jones- Maybe not huge on the stat line tonight but affected the pass and run game all night for the Chiefs. Makes the QB get off their mark. Cost the Bills at go ahead TD in the divisional game, harrassed Jackson and Purdy in both of the other games.
Trent McDuffie- All over the field making tons of plays and have sticky coverage. He might be the best slot CB in the league and he is still very young. Played great tonight.
L'Jarius Sneed- For the most part was good tonight besides giving up the TD to Jennings which was even still pretty good coverage. Gave up 1 TD all season long and could arguably considered the best outside CB in the NFL.
Harrison Butker- Guy has been as good if not better than Justin Tucker these last couple of seasons and there he was again tonight burying at 57 yards FG and then hitting the 28 yarder to get the game into OT. Tucker probably still the best Kicker but to me its 1A and 1B.
Andy Reid/Steve Spagnuolo- They continue to make adjustments at halftime and win games for their team. Spagnuolo was getting gashed early in the game in multiple ways but essentially shut down the 49ers offense in the 2nd half. The Chiefs also held the Bills to 7 second half points and completely shut down the Ravens in the AFC title game.
This doesn't even include the plethora of really good other players that they have including Pacheco, Rice, Karlaftis, Nnadi, Bolton, Gay, Justin Reid, and Townsend.
To me for the Bills, to get to the Chiefs level, they need to acquire more high end talent. It is simply amazing to me that Josh Allen has almost single handedly willed this Bills franchise to wins against the Chiefs in the playoffs. The Bills have talented players besides Allen but not to the level that the Chiefs. You can argue for Bills guys sure but at most positions the Chiefs have a guy who is better with the exception of LB and WR.
Totally agree. And the Chiefs have other really good players, like Karlaftis, Bolton and Willie Gay, who are as good as anyone on the Bills’ defense. That’s how you make a dynasty. Oh, and the Chiefs only have three starters left from the team that won the Super Bowl four years ago.
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The thing that stands out to me, watching this game, is that both teams have a lot of star players, huge difference makers: Kelce, Mahomes, Chris Jones, McDuffie, Snead…McCaffery, Samuel, Trent Williams, Bosa, Fred Warner…the Bills have 1 guy in that category. It’s just not enough.
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Just now, JakeFrommStateFarm said:
Why can't we have a pass rusher like bosa ?
Because we never have top 3 picks in the draft
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9 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:
What do the following players have in common?
Henry Ruggs, Jerry Jeudy, Jalen Raegor?
Sammy Watkins…
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4 hours ago, DJB said:
Yeah we may need to jump the Bengals depending on what they do with Boyd or Higgins.
That’s as far as I envision Beane moving up realistically
I can’t see the Bengals taking WR in round 1.
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1 minute ago, SirAndrew said:
I miss the Super Bowl’s of the 2000’s and 2010’s when we often saw two elite QB’s battle up and down the field.
The NFC is just sad. Literally no top quarterbacks in the whole conference. And about 7 in the AFC.
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1 minute ago, Awwufelloff said:
Mcduffie is sooo good
Chiefs have three star players on defense. We have none. That’s the difference.
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Huge blunder not to challenge that spot. Kelce def had the first down.
Chiefs are just better than the Bills
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Good grief...the Bills could not possibly have gotten any more breaks in that game. The Bills recovered three of their own fumbles, Hardman fumbles through the endzone just as Chiefs were going to go up by two scores. There were a bunch of important calls that were reviewed and every single review went the Bills' way even though several were questionable. The Chiefs averaged just under 8 yards per play; the Bills averaged less than five yards per play. The Chiefs had injuries on defense, too...Brian Cook was out, Derek Njadi was out, I believe Willie Gay was out, and I believe another of their LBs was out, too. As to the punter's injury, Martin punted one time and it was a pretty good kick...an absolute non-factor. The Bills were lucky to be in that game at the end.