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2 minutes ago, Beck Water said:
Well, the basis is McDermott saying so as quoted here. Indirect evidence would be Diggs showing up and participating in Day 2.
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1) of course, if one wants to work from the premise that McDermott is lying in everything he says, then sure, there's not much basis
2) if it's an interpersonal issue, these things have the tendency to re-emerge because people may commit to changing whatever it is, but don't follow through or don't follow through consistently, or they reflect underlying issues so they pop up in a different form
I don't like the term "lying". Yesterday McD was pissed, today was the typical PR game. We had such a good conversation and great communication that we felt we all needed a break and some space, so I excused him and we met back later.
They disagreed, argued, it got heated and either McD told him to leave or Diggs stormed out. Based off of the presser and what was being said yesterday, I'm leaning towards Stef storming out; hence Sean being very concerned. I'm sure calls from Beane to the agent, players to Stef and beane and McD talking happened, he came back and they found a common ground to move forward, that doesn't equal cool.
Today Sean's job was to get the toothpaste back in the tube and to do a mea culpa publicly for yesterday. This is the agreed way forward by all parties. It doesn't make it cool or resolve a darn thing.
Sean is always talking in coachspeak, and yesterday was the devation out of frustration. JMO at this point...
22 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:
It’s probably not cool after one day but being that Diggs showed up, its a step in a positive direction.I found this...
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4 minutes ago, Beck Water said:
I think so too.
I would bet on something like: Diggs stormed out, McDermott learned he'd left the building and stated he wouldn't practice just before his presser and was, not knowing how things were left, legit very concerned.
Apparently Diggs returned later that afternoon and they talked, maybe talked more this am, and now that everything's cool and Diggs showed up at minicamp, it's "nothing to see here, Move Along".Agree with everything except the assumption that everything is cool now, we have no basis for that at this point.
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2 hours ago, Mango said:
I don't know the proper reaction to give this. My anxiety is killing me at the moment.
The cucked comment is hilarious. Also, I hate PPP.
I do generally agree with you. McD spilled over into the presser. But I also think there is more to it than you are giving it. Diggs and the FO likely had a discussion that didn't end well. These things sort of happen in sports sometimes, but to have this going on from last season, through the offseason, and into OTA's is wild.
The fact that this has been festering and gone unresolved for 5 months is concerning. What I hope is that internally this has been put to bed, that won't stop questions up through training camp, 6 months after the Bengals game. And I promise diggs on the sidelines are going to have cameras glued to him all season
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1 minute ago, Einstein said:
Yep. As I said it would be…
It's trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube at this point.
With McD saying very concerned yesterday, I still think he was really hot about whatever was discussed and once he said it, he realized it and shut down those questions. Straight PR to save face, bust some serious **** certainly went down
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So this is the same as the explanation for 13 seconds....as expected
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4 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:
Are you just jealous because I have had sex and you haven't? It's like warm apple pie...
I have never heard @Gugnydescribed that way
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20 minutes ago, Virgil said:
We can still get to 300!!!I was wondering where your insightful analysis was
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1 minute ago, Beck Water said:
What exactly do you want Josh to do? He agreed to talk to the press. The press spent 11 minutes relentlessly grilling him about Stef.
Now personally, I think it would be better if Josh had said a la McDermott "I'm very concerned he's not here, he's a big part of our offense, I believe things will be worked out", but I also think Josh handled it the way he did for a reason, whatever that reason may be (and I don't know what the reason may be)
I think Sean did too, he is way to measured and mired in coach speak to say: "very concerned" on accident.
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Diggs might be at work
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4 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:
Sal the brown noser is the king of this.
He flies the the team....tbh for that kind of access my head would be up their assses too
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If Josh is having trouble preparing, here is a new Netflix series he can watch to help him
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15 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:
Depends how out of control he is. Maybe he made a move on Diggs?
Or he pissed that he didn't
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13 minutes ago, SWATeam said:
This narrative fits with McD's comments that he's seen a "new Josh" this offseason- which I thought was a bizarre comment to make. Also with Josh saying that he's never been this locked in. Like what was the situation before? Disappointing.
You have to realize that what Beane and McD put out in interviews is meant for players as well. They have known what this issue is all along and controlling the messaging to Diggs is very likely part of it.
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11 minutes ago, SCBills said:
Yea.. I'm at about 99% this is an Allen/Diggs thing, with the added potential of Diggs might feel slighted by the organization's handling of it behind the scenes, given they are never going to go at an elite QB1 too heavy handedly.
I'm also certain that Diggs who wants to win, would obviously be frustrated if Josh's focus was elsewhere; which I am clearly certain it was.
To hold this for 5 months though and it seems apparent that they didn't try during the offseason leads me to believe the rift is a fairly wide chasm. I would make the assumption that everytime Diggs saw in the news or on Twitter about Josh doing XYZ had to frost his ass even more. I would assume the Madden cover would even add to it, if he felt Josh wasn't preparing enough...it builds and builds
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8 minutes ago, Beck Water said:
Nah, it's not a new allegation. It was all over the Josh Britt breakup rumors thread.
Britt told her hairdresser Josh was cheating on her last fall
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Britt found out when she scrolled through Josh's phone at the team Halloween party which she and Josh hosted (because every hostess scrolls through her BF phone at a party she's hosting)
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Britt found out when the girl texted Josh a sonogram the night before the Bengals game causing Britt to blow a fuse and trash the place and Josh had to sleep in a hotel (never mind the whole team routinely sleeps in hotels the night before home games)
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The girl left it on their porch (never mind Josh lives in a gated property with a long driveway) the night before the Bengals game, causing Britt to blow a fuse and trash the place and Josh had to sleep in a hotel (never mind the whole team routinely sleeps in hotels the night before home games)
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The neighbors heard a ruckus and called OP police (never mind that Josh's house has a lot of property and I don't think the neighbors overlook or could overhear much of anything)
The woman in question is a bartender
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a UB soccer player
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Diggs former girlfriend (Diggs is a Player - does he even have a girlfriend or former girlfriend right now?)
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there is no woman of significance to the relationship (even if cheating occurred, many WAG of superstars tolerate some cheating - Patti Thomas, Jill Kelly etc)
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Oh and toss Hailee Steinfeld into the mix, someone replied to a tweet about Josh's date with her "he cheated on Britt with her" and Britt actually "liked" that reply.It's all "heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend who heard it from another" stuff.
That last is the most plausible to me.
Britt was on Kelly Stafford's podcast in December and Stafford talked about having to give Matt an ultimatum at one point to move their relationship forward. Britt was clearly taking photos during the blizzard where Josh had to dig his way to the gate. She was photographed with Josh after the Miami game. She was there at the Bengals game and posted afterwards. They went on a friends vacation in Feb and a Hawaii vacation in Feb/Mar. Then they broke up. Seems plausible they went on vacay, discussed where their relationship was headed. Maybe Britt tried the Kelly Stafford ultimatum "married or through" thing, and Josh said "through".
I think you just became the TBD TMZ person now...
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2 minutes ago, CaliBills said:
Josh Injury = pain meds = loss of focus = bad work habits and inability to sit and study film etc. Makes sense.
Just trying to link it.
No idea if true
Rumors of Brittany pushing Josh to get married, Josh cheats etc. = lots of ***** in your personal life is affecting your ability to concentrate at work.
Diggs has been pissed since at least the playoff game in January and no resolution to this point. He can be pissed at scheme and dorsey, but it really seems like this is personal between him and Allen. It's been 5 freaking months...and he leaves before practice starts, McD is legit pissed with the very concerning statement, that you never get from him and he shuts it down right after that comment = foot in his mouth.
Josh has an 11 min presser and even throughout the offseason, he is more focused than ever etc...
This sjit is between Allen and Diggs. I can only think of one that that can come between I'm thankful for you between bros that lasts at least 5 months....
Meow
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1 hour ago, boyst said:
Can someone give bullet points and a debrief of this without the drama?
And miss all the fun?
Also you we are all n0w g0ing t0 write like this:
Can s0me0ne give bullet p0ints and a debried with0ut all the drama?
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5 minutes ago, The Wiz said:
Rebuilding as in what? Changing the core of the team or changing the offensive philosophy?
They aren't changing the team any time soon. How the offense works, that could be a thing for sure.
IIRC, they plan to not let the WRs read the D and run a route based on the their read, the move is to predetermined routes like many other teams use that allow you to scheme guys open...
An entire new room of WRs who have to get on the same page as Josh and knowing where they all need to be is a real big ask heading into year 1 with the WR group. I do also wonder with Patrick Peterson saying they knew what route Gabe would - i do wonder if the WRs making decisions on where to go became a tell for opposing defenses and made us very easy to defend against, once their was enough tape. Dorsey didn't really have anything to fall back on at that point...
just a though at 1109pm
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1 minute ago, NoSaint said:
As simple as Josh chose team over diggs, perhaps.That certainly would make it personal from Stef's perspective. Something obviously made him say nope, I ain't going out there today and I'm out...He was that hot today. Also making an assumption, him and Josh did not talk this entire offseason and he is still pissed enough to say nope, I'm out and put the team in that position...
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5 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said:
From listening to Josh's presser today it goes deeper than that. There is some sort of personal rift between Allen and Diggs right now.
both can be true, toss in chad hall leaving, Ty Dunne article saying the coaching staff didn't talk about 13 seconds with the team, Diggs last off season wanted to know why we are winning it all, why do we have these issues - do you think he got answers from McD? There are likely lots of reasons.
It does feel like there is something between him and Josh right now, how do you go from I'm thankful for you on Thanksgiving to this? It just feels like something went down and it's personal
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7 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:
if this c0ntinues The Bills are g0ing t0 have t0 play all their games 0n the WB.
Im really interested in what happens at practice this week and when camp starts with the 0ffensive line and the defense.
It's g0ing t be the diggs sh0w....the media/fans maybe diggs himself will determine wh0 he is mad at by the time camp starts I imagine. 0nce that happens that will be the 0nly st0ry.
H0pefully it all bl0ws 0ver. This all seems very childish, sh0rt sighted and anti team. All the guys wh0 behave like this thr0ugh0ut the hist0ry 0f the league never just get 0ver it and m0ve 0n with their existing team. Have t0 h0pe whatever it is d0esn't affect the quarterback l0ng term.
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Diggs NOT at mandatory minicamp, McDermott "very concerned" DAY 2 UPDATE: He's back
in The Stadium Wall
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I have read some stupid ***** in this thread but holy ***** this is the worst one yet.
I don't idolize the Bills, in fact I really don't idolize anything - so please continue to make ***** up. You call that a creative story to explain why the lie wasn't a lie? You should see the creative story I can write about you and your conjecture...
Perhaps I should have said I don't like the phrase of McD lying in everything he says - he doesn't lie in everything he says, but he also dances around the truth. All coaches do it...
If in fact they did talk last night and possibly even this AM, you can bet your ass, part of it was McD having to walk things back today