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Just now, Beck Water said:
But can he play C, or is he strictly a G? and if a G, L or R?
Looks like a mauler G
Bates to C will likely be the move at some point or even RT I suppose
"As a newborn, Torrence was a 10-pounder. He was 6-foot-1 and 400 pounds as an eighth-grader before he hit a growth spurt in ninth and 10th grade and thinned out to his high school and college playing weight of 347.
His hands measure 11¼ inches, the largest of any lineman at the Senior Bowl. His wingspan is 84 inches, third longest of the 23 linemen in Mobile.
His nickname is “Cybo.”
“He has big hands, he has long arms, he engulfs you,” said Rochester native Paul Alexander, who coached the Cincinnati Bengals’ offensive line for 24 years and now tutors elite pro prospects. “He’s got explosiveness and quickness. I think he’d be a great pick for the Buffalo Bills where they’re picking, because that’s about where he’s going to go.”
Alexander has consulted with Torrence for the past year.
Torrence did not give up a sack in his college career. He spent his first three years at the University of Louisiana, where he started 35 games and made first-team All-Sun Belt in 2021.
He had the highest run-blocking grade of any guard in the country from Pro Football Focus in 2022.
At his size, will Torrence have enough lateral quickness to deal with elite, 3-technique defensive tackles?
Alexander is confident.
“In a small box, he’s really quick, which is all you need,” Alexander said. “He’s probably not going to be on the punt-cover team. But in the offensive line box, he’s incredibly quick. He has foot quickness, hand quickness, he has quick-twitch muscle fiber galore.”"
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They picked at 8:55....
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great pick! Announce it already
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We like must our LBs on the roster
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It was a good trade, the cost to go after the WRs was apparently higher than we wanted to pay. The choice of taking the top rated player in the positional group vs the 3rd or 4th based on this wr class was a no brainer imo. Elite hands and if we believe beane at his word, he will mostly be a pass catcher, it lessens the developmental aspect you traditionally see with TEs. That doesn't mean he doesn't have to learn to block, but it seems the priority in his training and development will be on route running, reading defenders and making the same route tree decision josh does.
If you take most of the targets we used last year on Isiah, Crowder, Singletary, and beasely and give them to Kincaid, that's a sizeable workload.
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3 minutes ago, SCBills said:
Yes .. and I said I’m not as worried this year as I was last year.
You just took issue with my tongue in cheek annoyance at the term “pass catchers” and I’m explaining why.
I think our base offense, as it stands looks like this:
WR (3) Diggs - Kincaid - Davis
TE (1) KnoxRotational WR (2) Shakir / Harty
RB (2) Cook/Harris
Gadget (1) Hines
I foresee the Bills being in primarily 12 personnel disguised as 11 personnel.
I think it has a ton of potential.
I’d still like one more legit WR to push Davis & safeguard against Diggs or Davis missing any time.
Should help the running game be more effective when they kick Kincaid to the OL to help block. All dependent on dorsey having some gimme plays and scheming players open and running multiple plays from the same formation and on Josh to not force every pass and to actually throw short
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Just now, PatsFanNH said:
Ok here are a few thoughts on the draft:
Good (Amazing):
Eagles — That D front is going to be scary AGAIN next year, I almost feel bad for Dak facing that front twice. They got an absolute STEAL with Carter at 9.
Ok:(above average)
Bills - I like Kinkaid but I believe he has back issues? Doesn’t mean he won’t be amazing but could make his career a lot shorter than it should be.
Pats — I was hoping for a WR, but getting IMO the top CB in the draft while also sticking it to the Jets… made this pick awesome for me. My biggest concern is how young he is and how soon (if ever) he hits his potential.
Ugly:
Washington — They took a CB who is vastly undersized and will take time IMO to make an impact. Made worse because they chose him over at least 2 better prospect in Gonzalez, and Porter. I’d have broken my TV if that was my team. (Like I did last year w an unknown guard pick)
Will Levi’s — rumored be top 2 pick and doesn’t get picked at all in the first round. By far an ugly and sad day for him.
lastly Confused:
Jets — You just got Rogers and you know it’s a 2 year window and yet you still don’t draft a WR for the guy? Instead you get another D lineman.. makes little sense.. Rogers is older he needs playmakers around him. (Imagine if Seattle had gotten Rogers instead.)
let me know who your thoughts are
Saleh is a DC at heart, so building a dominant D line like in SF, is part of his DNA. I liked McDonald's and as a project, at 15 his was drafted on potential, but that was a big reach imo.
For the Ugly, you forgot Detroit who is building a team like it is 1985...
Kincaid had a broken vertabre, so provided that healed up, that shouldn't be a long term issue. I get he has elite hands and is viewed more as a slot WR, hard to see us in 12 personnel that much, unless there is a huge shift in the offensive philosophy, which obviously could happen. I know beane called it 11.5 personnel, at the end of the day it's still 2 TEs....
I am hoping that since we are seeming to have him play more as a WR, his transition will be quicker as the focus on his coaching and development early on will be reading the defense and adjusting his route based on the read and making the same read and adjustments Allen is.
Pats took who they needed to. But man that roster is in bad bad shape
1 minute ago, LABILLBACKER said:Campbell at 18 made no sense?
Or the rb at 12 or whatever other pick they had....way to go back in time 40 years
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On McAfee, they asked him about trading picks tomorrow for Hopkins - his face made it seem like a nope and he basically said his focus this weekend is on the draft and making picks
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RD 2, Pick 59: G O’Cyrus Torrence, Florida
in The Stadium Wall
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