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If the old man wants to come home for a few years to finish his career at Ohio State, I’d consider it ?
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Agree. There are nine police reports. Courtney moved out in June 2015, sought a restraining order in October 2015, and filed for divorce in November 2015. Seems like that activity combined with Courtney saying that she told “all the coaches’ wives” about the abuse should have put people on notice. None of the texts in the public record show that Urban was copied, and McMurphy said on SVP last night that he has no direct evidence of Urban’s knowledge. I don’t know if that’s correct. Kyle Lamb from Rivals said that the OSU sexual misconduct policy incorporated into Urban’s contract only applies to on-campus, university-sponsored events - not any incident of sexual misconduct anywhere in the world - and none of the alleged incidents occurred in that context. Also, another report says that the duty to report violations of the sexual misconduct policy had not yet been added to the contract back in 2015. So it’s unclear to me whether there has been a violation of school policy or the contract.
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This is well written and pretty much in line with my views. Dan Wetzel, on the other hand, is doing a poor job covering this story. He appeared to be unaware of the Earl Bruce connection yesterday, and today he's harping on Title IX and the OSU sexual misconduct policy even though everyone who has dug into those documents agrees they are inapplicable. The more I think about promoting Day over Schiano or Wilson, the more it makes sense and indicates that Ohio State is taking a long view of a future without Urban.
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Are there any examples of a head coach going on administrative leave pending an independent investigation and then coming back? I can’t think of any. It’s over IMO.
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Same. Even though I’m not aware of any facts that show Schiano or Wilson actually did anything wrong, their pasts are murky so it makes sense to look elsewhere under the circumstances. Yes and no. Zach Smith should not have been on the staff. Urban let him stick around for too long in an act of favoritism and got burnt as a result. Seems pretty black and white to me and I have no interest in a drawn out investigation into who’s wife said what and when.
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That’s probably right, or Coach D. It would be pretty funny if OSU brings in Rich Rod and he stomps all over TTUN.
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I feel like we just discussed him a few months ago and decided that he's not close to ready. Plus, there are two guys on staff ready to go!
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Ryan Day?!? People really love this guy.
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I don't think you're being callous. Urban plainly stated last week that he had no knowledge about the alleged 2015 incident between Zach Smith and his ex-wife Courtney. McMurphy says text messages between Courtney and Shelley Meyer from 2015 prove that Shelley knew, and he says Shelley's knowledge proves that Urban knew. Maybe that's right but it's not direct evidence of Urban's knowledge. McMurphy further says that in text messages between Courtney and the wife of the OSU director of football operations, Courtney was told about a 2015 meeting between Urban and Zach about the incident. That's also damning but the texts themselves are not direct evidence of any meeting. So the circumstantial evidence suggests Urban knew about the alleged incident in 2015, but I have not seen any direct evidence. Back then, Earl Bruce -- former HC, Urban's father-like mentor, and Zach's grandfather -- was at the end of his life. Maybe Urban didn't want to do anything to upset Bruce before he passed. So the context is there for Urban to sit on whatever information he had. Again, speculative and circumstantial but it feels like it could be true. In any event, it's about to get hot in the kitchen for Urban. Given the nature of the evidence, I don't think we can say for sure what he knew and didn't know. Plenty of room for the Homers to say Urban didn't know; plenty of room for the Haters to say he clearly knew and lied about it. All I can say is that IF he knew about the 2015 incident between Zach and Courtney, took no action, and then flatly lied about it at media day last week... then Urban should not lead a great and proud program like Ohio State. And in that case, send him packing and turn the keys over to Schiano.
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I knew there was something weird about the 2015 incident.... Well, if this is it then it's been a helluva run with Urban. My first instinct is to move Schiano to HC, with Wilson/Day and Grinch as coordinators.
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ATT ruined DTV's customer service. It used to be a pleasure to call that company. Now it's like pulling teeth.
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There will be no shortage of topics for discussion at media day tomorrow. Now I can really feel football season coming.
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I wonder if he's more trouble than he's worth. He gets all the wrong kinds of press, and his unit has underperformed in recent years. But on the other hand, WR recruiting has been insane. He's also relatively inexpensive. So, I guess keep him for now? EDIT: Oh boy, I just read the Brett McMurphy piece about how far back this all goes. Worse than I thought. Smith needs to address it.
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Yikes - it's a little early to trigger my anxiety. I feel like TCU has been waiting for this since 2014.
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LAMP: Cardale Jones last night (nice guy)
Willyville Guy replied to YoloinOhio's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
That's amazing - you must have been so psyched. Go Bucks! -
You are in for a real treat. Standing in Ohio Stadium watching those teams and colors go at it is a unique experience. Enjoy!
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Never sure what to make of this stuff, but this is encouraging...
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Whew - it was looking pretty dicey for a QB in that class. Score another one for Friday Night Lights!
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The entire run has been a dream come true ever since Tress said, “I can assure you that you will be proud of your young people in the classroom, in the community, and most especially in 310 days in Ann Arbor, Michigan.” It's gotta end sooner or later.
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Michigan has three rivalry games on the road (ND, MSU, OSU), and two doozies at home (PSU, Wisky). That's a handful if I've ever seen one.
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Probably my own biases, but UCLA's schedule does not strike me as more difficult than the schedules for Michigan, ND, and LSU.
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What that the last recruiting battle OSU "lost" to UM?
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Buckeyes fans, tell me about Joe Burrow
Willyville Guy replied to CajunBillsBacker's topic in College Football
I didn’t expect it, certainly didn’t ask for it, but for the next two years I’m an LSU fan. The rest of the SEC is tiger bait! -
Buckeyes fans, tell me about Joe Burrow
Willyville Guy replied to CajunBillsBacker's topic in College Football
I wish Joe and the LSU family all the best, unless and until their interests conflict with my own. Cheers.