[Brian Kelly OUT at LSU]

Interesting stuff here. All the way to the Governor's Mansion...

 

https://sports.yahoo.com/college-football/breaking-news/article/inside-brian-kellys-messy-firing-at-lsu-how-it-all-unraveled-so-quickly-in-baton-rouge-020642694.html

[10/26/25 GAMEDAY Bills at Panthers post game thread]

5 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

 

 

No worries with that speech or locker room. Looks about as expected for a blow out win after a few down weeks. Acting like that is what they "should" do and not celebrating over something they should be doing.

 

Although it kinda sounds like Sean is saying they previously stopped being humble, hungry and stopped putting in the work...

[Brian Kelly OUT at LSU]

10 minutes ago, Cynical said:

Kelly agrees to a $27M buyout.

 

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-football/lsu/news/lsu-brian-kelly-agree-reduced-buyout-college-footballs-historic-season-continues/79382919559c80a43b1b30ca?utm_source=yahoo&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=appeared_on

 

 

 

Wonder how they convinced him to cut his buyout in half and leave $27M on the table? Maybe the threat of "trashing him" in the media so he doesnt work again? Or rather the suggestion that they can end it amicably for $27M...

[Is Cook worth it?]

 

2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

OPOY nominee  

 

Jonathan Taylor and James Cook have to be the front runners in the MVP race right now.

 

Cook is currently our best player on Offense, and therefore the best player on our entire team.

[Is Cook worth it?]

1 hour ago, Andrew Son said:

What is not being talked about enough is that our run blocking is incredible.  Check out Gilliam on that long TD run

 

Kinda even crazier that no other RB on the team is having even close to the success toting the rock behind the same line.

[Brian Kelly OUT at LSU]

27 minutes ago, iccrewman112 said:

Owed ~$55M

 

It's good work if you can get it

[10/26/25 GAMEDAY Bills at Panthers post game thread]

1 minute ago, boyst said:

In the game I missed it. The end of half field goal attempt. How much time was left? Bills players celebrating the sack almost cost them. It looked like 12 men on the field when I counted for the bills.

 

It was pure chaos. 

 

What was said on TV?

 

Seemed like any chaos mainly affected Carolina. I think there was 17 or 14 seconds when they started to try. Not much was said, I think Olsen was like "they're going to try to pull off a fire drill field goal, can they get everyone off the field in time, I dont think they can get to it.." then they did but missed it and he was all "yeah, halftime"

[Brian Kelly OUT at LSU]

Was a bad hire to begin with.

 

This is an interesting opening to add to the carousel tho

[Bills- Panthers Snap Counts]

Cook, once again, didnt even make it to 50% of the snaps. BUM!

[Is Cook worth it?]

"Not elite"

[10/26/25 GAMEDAY Bills at Panthers post game thread]

Max looked good in his limited time. Hoecht was way better than I expected. Bummer about Ed.

 

I get that no one can get open, but Josh doesnt seem himself. Missing protection calls, missing open guys.

 

Nice to be back to a Victory Monday. Needed a decisive win.

 

[10/26/25 GAMEDAY Bills at Panthers Gameday thread]

Just now, Steptide said:

I hate the uniforms they're wearing today more than anything

 

I rank them just behind the All Reds and now the White Outs, but yeah, they're bad.

[10/26/25 GAMEDAY Bills at Panthers Gameday thread]

6 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Solomon and Epenesa over Jackson.

Really would like to see Jackson get more playing time. Solomon has done nothing.

I know I know special teams....

 

Jackson needs a lot more development, he's a big liability on the field right now. He's a classic Beane 3rd round developmental gamble, just like Brown, Bernard, and Williams. They usually need at least a year until they are really ready to see the field.

[10/26/25 GAMEDAY Bills at Panthers Gameday thread]

1 minute ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Poyer taking pregame warmup right next to Bishop if that means anything 

 

1 minute ago, billsfan714 said:

Be interesting to see who the starting safeties are, which combo.

 

I'd guess Poyer/Bishop

[10/26/25 GAMEDAY Bills at Panthers Gameday thread]

2 minutes ago, boater said:

What number will Hairston be?

 

I'm going to be looking for him. He was doing great in training camp, right up until he got injured. I hope we aren't expecting too much too soon from the rookie.

 

Is he even active today?

 

edit: just saw the news, wow. i guess its good to see some urgency from the staff

[10/26/25 GAMEDAY Bills at Panthers Gameday thread]

2 minutes ago, bigduke6 said:

feel like this is Milanos last season here.  guy just cant stay on the field.  sad.

 

He's not even under contract here next year, so yeah. He gone.

[10/26/25 GAMEDAY Bills at Panthers Gameday thread]

1 minute ago, Toledo Bill said:

McD... "gap integrity"😂.

i don't expect him to ever adapt and change his philosophy.

 

 

Gonna get run on all day today.

[story going around-Bills run D this year is worst in the NFL since 1934 (Cincinnati Reds)]

21 hours ago, Pete said:

If we had that, we would have won the part two Super Bowls.  My lasting 24 playoff memory is Dalton Kincaid dropping the ball, season over.

 

It was a bad ball to Kincaid caused by Spags being a superior coach and knowing Josh's tendency to love to roll right, so with the game on the line he pulled out his balls, got aggressive, and dialed up a blitz from the right corner which took Josh by surprised (because our coaches weren't prepared for it), and forced him into a bad throw. All while the Bills spent the 4th quarter putting our most productive player in that game (Cook) on ice because of... reasons.

 

We got out maneuvered on the chess board, again.

[10/26/25 GAMEDAY Bills at Panthers Gameday thread]

Every single group text I'm on, every single podcast I've listened to, every single film breakdown I've watched... it's all the same. EVERYONE knows what the Bills need to do.

 

Will McDermott, Brady, and Babich actually come through? If they cant see the obvious... If they wont do the obvious... it's gonna get ugly around here fast.

 

Players better be ready too. None of this low positive bull####. Come out and show the world who the better team is.

[Jags listening to trade calls for Brian Thomas]

59 minutes ago, Allen2Moulds said:

We have Shaq Thomson, who has been our best performing LB this year. We also have Hoect who we can deploy in our big package formation. Can be used similar to Lorenzo.

 

Not a fan of converting a DL to a LB and hoping he can cover ground sideline to sideline.

 

Shaq, Bernard, and Wilson keeps us athletic while still increasing the beef.

[Jags listening to trade calls for Brian Thomas]

Just now, vtnatefootball11 said:

 

How would this help us at WR and Safety?

 

Have you seen the reports about our Run D?

 

This helps the Run D which helps the Safeties.

[Jags listening to trade calls for Brian Thomas]

Think I'd rather get LB Logan Wilson from the Bengals and move to a true 4-3.

[Bengals LB Logan Wilson requests trade - Was at Wyoming with Josh]

21 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Boy when your team captain asks for a trade.................

 

 

 

I figured he was just speed running the negotiation process coming off his rookie deal since we all know Mike Brown doesnt pay guaranteed money. But I looked it up and he's actually in year 2 of his 2nd contract!

 

So he just wants out of the building altogether 

[story going around-Bills run D this year is worst in the NFL since 1934 (Cincinnati Reds)]

31 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

Poyer will really bring the flash 

 

Flashing his AARP card to get a discount on his turkey burger maybe

[Bills are just 4 games away from being the most patient fanbase in the Super Bowl era.]

3 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

Fair points.

 

But I guess even though I'm not a mathematician, I'm a game theorist at heart because I see the future as a bunch of probabilities with no certainty at all.  

 

With 32 teams in the league, the average NFL team has a 3% chance of winning a Lombardi.  I think with McD and Josh (and Beane's flawed rosters), we have about a 10% chance each season.  Better than most teams, not as good as KC's.  That means we have a 65% chance of winning at least one trophy over the next ten years.

 

But let's say the fans get their wish and McD is fired.  I think there's only about a 10% chance that Pegs hires someone better than McD.  Historically, teams usually get worse after firing a winning head coach.  And Pegs track record at hiring coaches (just look at the Sabres) isn't good.  Finally, most proven head coaches are either gainfully employed or retired.  Hiring a coordinator to be our HC, or a college HC, is a real roll of the dice.  

 

I think our odds are better with McD.  

 

Couple of things...

 

If you think our chances each season with McD/Josh are 10%, how much of that is just Josh? What would our chances be with McD and an average QB? Now what are our chances with an average HC and Josh? I'd think it's about 1-3% with McD/QB, and ~7% with HC/Josh.

 

Additionally, Pegs track record with the Sabres is completely irrelevant when it comes to running the Bills. He has two completely different approaches between the teams. He thinks he's a hockey guy. Thats how he got into this whole sports business to begin with. He has a very active role in the Sabres hirings. With the Bills and NFL, he knows he's in over his head. HE didnt find McD, a consulting firm he hired did. He would hire that same consulting firm.

 

I do agree with your last point, in that Terry's inaction and refusal to see the truth after 13 seconds and other debacles has cost us chances at Jim Harbaugh, Sean Payton, and Mike Vrabel, and I dont have any other ideas left. But as I've said numerous times here before, almost none of us knew of Sean McDermott back in December 2016, so who knows...