DrDawkinstein

#3, absolutely disagree. They simply cant. Poyer, Hyde, Tre White, Morse, Gabe Davis, maybe even Von gone. Now is the chance. Flip the coaches, flip the roster, and reset for 2024. They have the opportunity. We'll see if Terry is able to seize it.

And yet, I still had more confidence in Chan, Fitz, and ol Steve to do his thing, than I do right now with these jabronis under Dorsey/McD. We keep it close because we have TALENT. It's fixable because we have TALENT. But it will take redoing the coaching staff to fix it. We'll see if/when Terry pulls that lever.

This was INFURIATING. My buddy said "bad decision/throw by Josh", but I'm wondering WhoTF is deciding to send our 5'6" WR on an out like that? Harty should be used on either 1. short gadget plays (end arounds, bubble screens, etc) or 2. deep shots where he is burning down the field in a straight line. The fact he was on the field, running that route is gross negligence and incompetence by the OC. This is what Josh means by "I'm just running the plays that are called". WTF else is he supposed to do when the coaches are sending in that player personnel, and putting those players on those routes? He can only audible and call plays on the fly so much. He cant re-design the whole Offense while trying to play the game.

i made a thread on this, but wont bump it since there are so many new threads today. If I'm Pegula, the only way McD keeps his job today is if he fires BOTH coordinators and goes back to being the HC running the whole team and working the details. Fire Dorsey, move out of DC. Promote Shula/Brady to OC and Bobby Babich to DC for the rest of the year, and see how it goes. It will at least tell Pegula whether he needs to be starting the search for a new HC, or just new OC.

only 6 points off 4 turnovers, and our O and ST giving them starts in our own territory all night. If the offense showed up to play like the defense, we'd only have 1-2 losses. I do believe the DC needs to be fired but not because of our Defensive performance. And I cant knock any of the players on D who show up and play with heart all the time. Unlike most of our Offense. You want a big stop, blame the dummy who called a 2nd all out blitz coming off a time out. Coaching not putting our guys in the best position to succeed.

No matter how down I am on the Bills, watching this weekend as Bill OBrien chewed out McCorkle, and Zappe threw a horrible INT on a dumb fake spike to end the game really warmed my heart.

For that matter, just force some frickin punts and that's close enough. As Jeremy White pointed out this morning, the Bills are currently 25th in forced punts. If that was even mid-tier, we'd have a much easier time.

Winning proves nothing in this game. It's what they SHOULD do. Just like against the Raiders and Commanders. And like the Jets and Patriots so... 🤷‍♂️ If they win, great. Let's see you string it together with some quality wins coming up. If they lose, then they are who I think they are. Congrats, McD. I barely feel like even watching this game.

Totally different discussion, but dont need to blow up the roster. So sounds like, right now, I could see... Head Coach - Sean McDermott Off Coordinator - Kevin Patullo Def Coordinator - Bobby Babich Need to look more into Patullo, and other rising Offensive assistants. Welker is an interesting name, but I'm actually worried his brain might be too scrambled for such a high level position.

I'm coming around on Babich for DC. I know they're trying to promote Washington, but I think they're barking up the wrong tree with that. I dont think it's too difficult to replace a DC. The OC is the tricky one.

Patullo is a really interesting name to me. I ran across him right after I made this thread. I dont know enough about him or his style, but I think he could be someone to watch. The Philly/McD and Patullo/Buffalo connections certainly help. Leftwich is a great call as I had completely forgotten about him. Not sure what that says tho. And wasnt it really Arians and Brady who probably both had more say in the Offense than Byron? Get a room you two.

It seemed like Josh was hitting Cook immediately in those week 2 and 3 games when our Offense was clicking. Then he gets away from it because... reasons....

I believe a knock on Dorsey is that he isnt building more out of those same looks. Sure, the idea is to come out in the same look over and over, and once the Defense thinks they know what we are going to do then do something unexpected. But it doesnt seem like we ever get to that second phase of the unexpected. We come out in the same vanilla look and run the same concepts over and over. And I also believe it is to the point that smart Defenses (like Cincy) know what our reads and routes are, and bait Josh into making certain low percentage throws based on giving him certain pre-snap looks. And there is nothing coming from Dorsey to adjust that.

Mentioned it on the previous page from last night's game. IMO, Reich is too much like McD in his conservative, older school nature. Also, 2 horribly failed HC stints from 1 OC job where he wasnt even calling plays (that was Pederson) We need young, brash and confident/almost arrogant at OC.

Yep. After Cincy's 2nd possession I sent my buddy a text saying "McD has no answers. Best we can hope for is Bengals to stop themselves." And then we got lucky on the next 2 possessions as they did exactly that. The only real play our Defense made was when Joseph stuffed Burrow on 2nd and 1. And that was just the player doing it himself. Then the wheels came off for the Bengals and they ended up in 3rd and 15 and 4th and 20. All self-inflicted as we just held on for dear life.

My idea would be if the new OC is really that much of a hot shot, that after next year, we can McD and promote the OC. Only way to fix the cycle we got ourselves into by hiring a defensive HC.

Kingsbury is an interesting idea. Wonder if he's holding out for a HC spot. But winning a SB with Josh would be an even better path there.

If he came available, would anyone be interested in Frank Reich as OC? Or has he proven to be just as boring, conservative, and ineffective as what we already have? IMO, I'm looking for young and brash, almost arrogant. That isnt Reich. Wonder if Chargers clean house, we could pull off Staley DC, Moore OC. Although I'm not as high on Moore. Always been lukewarm on him since Boise days. Figured he'd make a better coach than player. But havent been wowed much.

TWO players-only meetings in, what, FOUR weeks. Tell me you've lost the locker room without telling me you've lost the locker room.

I think Bienemy is finally going to get his shot as Head Coach in Washington. New owner going to fire Rivera and move to Bienemy. Now, Bienemy as HC of the Bills is an interesting take...

Yes, McD is doing fine as a DC, but he is failing as a Head Coach. That is the point. If he wants to stay as a DC, then he can take a pay cut and answer to the new Offense-based HC we hire. But we both know that aint happening. He needs to get out of DCing and show us he can actually run the team as a HC. To do that, he'll need to hire some talented Coordinators. Who we got?

Yeahnoduh, that's why it's a good discussion topic. We can kinda assume some of the coaches that will get fired. There will certainly be surprises as well. But even with that, I dont see many HCs that could get fired that I'd want as OC. And probably dont want their OC since they're getting fired for a reason. I dont think Nagy is doing himself any favors in KC this year to earn another shot so soon. Kevin Patullo is Philly's Associate head coach/passing game coordinator, and spent time here in Buffalo 2010-2012. How veteran? Like Shula?

Let's assume, regardless of anyone's wishes, McD is safe for one more year. IMO, the best thing he could do for himself as Head Coach is show Terry and Bills Mafia that he really is the CEO of a winning team; and fire Dorsey, fire himself, and hire a new OC and new DC. But who is that? Offense: On staff we have the likes of Joe Brady and Mike Shula Any other upcoming guys hiding as QB coaches out there? Anyone left on the 9ers staff worth looking at? Anyone good enough to be able to take over in 2025 if McD keeps McD-ing? Defense: On staff... Eric Washington? Brandon Staley maybe? Would Ron Rivera do it as a bridge year? Or into retirement? Any sleepers buried on staffs I'm not thinking about? Former players... Assuming McD stays, who is your ultimate staff next year?

They were generating tons of pressure, sacks, and turnovers until we lost some CBs and lost the ability for coverage to allow the DEs to get home. Lately, QBs can get the ball out in just over 2.0secs because their guys are immediately open. The ball is coming out a second before our DEs even get out of their first move. Hopefully Douglas and Benford can help that a bit. If coverage can hold up just a little longer and allow the DEs to get home, the DEs will force bad throws and turnovers to the DBs. All things circular.

Beane?!? He has ZERO say in coaching decisions. ZERO. That is all McD and Terry.