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Again, thanks. That makes very little sense to me given everything that transpired. HB has been the son of one of the most important and polarizing figures in the world for the entirety of his life. He’s a multi-millionaire businessman who operated in an historically corrupt nation, his father known for exerting his influence at a time when his son was dealing with issues there. He’s caught the attention of 51 intelligence experts, every one of which would be associates of his father, every one of which turned out to be incorrect in their assessment. His father, in his role as president, has made conflicting statements about their professional and personal relationship, and the Weiss team surely knew the truth about that years ago. Whistleblowers have been attacked by associates of his father. None of that rose to the level of extraordinary? If a simple rejected plea deal constitutes “extraordinary circumstances” in a case where just about everything about it is extraordinary, it makes zero sense to keep the same team in place. Unless, of course, the desire is to continue to show the world that some people get special treatment and those people are above the law.

Look, I can be closed minded like everyone else. It’s August 13, 2023. It’s been 950 days since the assault on the Capitol. The rioters, malcontents and wrong doers have been investigated, charged and in many cases incarcerated. The answers to who completely screwed the pooch on security (and there are many possibilities, none of whom are named Trump), why or how it was allowed to happen, and how to avoid something similar in the future remain unanswered. When questions of that nature remain unanswered, theories abound.

Thanks. I think you’re dealing with the process that will be followed. I’m looking at the actions of the AG. This was the statement I was referring to: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/merrick-garland-david-weiss-hunter-biden-probe_n_64d660e1e4b00842fd10d0b1 “Upon considering his request, as well as the extraordinary circumstances relating to this matter, I have concluded that it’s in the public’s interest to appoint him as special counsel.” The investigation has been ongoing for several years, with Weiss seemingly straddling the divide between gun charges, allegations of tax evasion, and state and federal law. My question is what circumstances made it extraordinary after all this time that prompted Garland to act, or Weiss to request? It seems sort of extreme to me. Biden is who he is, but part of this is a tax evasion case. A guy in that case typically takes a plea or goes to trial. Same with the gun charges. Everything shifted when the plea was rejected, in spite of all the unusual things that happened along the line (independent experts in the IC inserting themselves into the discussion, President Biden speaking about his son’s innocence, First Lady Dr. Biden doing the same, dem senators casting doubt on the trustworthiness of whistleblowers), the timing and circumstances seem odd. What suddenly made the circumstances extraordinary?

I’d go so far as to say that if 20% of that sort of interaction occurred at ArtPark at a Beach Boys/ Jan &Dean “We ain’t (all) dead yet!” reunion tour, with an average age of participants of 74, heads would have rolled. What are they doing, McCarthy et al? Well, old Mitch is all a’flutter on the impeachment of JB, I’d hazard a guess that they want to return to business as usual….a Venn diagram of old school R$ and old school D$, where they meet in the middle to let stuff that upsets their apple cart fade away. It’s bad for business. Btw, in London has Fallen, the bad guys are identified, all co-conspirators are brought to justice. Not so much in Washington.

I’ve watched coverage of calls to defund the police, political leaders making disparaging and incendiary comments and the fallout that comes with it, and congressional leaders huddled in their offices during the 1/6 riot, likely hoping against hope that some…..law enforcement personnel would come, willing to pay the ultimate price and shield them from harm in spite of the often hateful things they say. I also watched the clip of AOC being harassed by a comedian, and her complaining that there wasn’t….law enforcement nearby to come and drag the guy off to jail. I agree with you—it’s impossible to separate fact from fiction here.

Hmm…you’re asking a lot here in hoping for reasonable discourse. The idea here is that Trump, a man the world was assured would not leave office without a fight, would call for martial law, who talked about stolen elections for two months, would be allowed to provide security for the Capitol on Inauguration Day is just plain silly. That’s after, of course, thinking the office of the President is responsible for developing an action plan to secure the Capitol and Washington generally. We know all that we need to know when we realize we don’t know how the heck the Capitol was overrun and the government paralyzed 3 years after Biden took over, and after the 1/6 committee pledged to get to the bottom of it. Btw, I watched London Has Fallen last night, and through the lens of a fictional action movie it’s easy to suspend common sense and reality for a couple hours while the terrorists execute a highly skilled and stunningly executed plan to kill 5 world leaders in 6 minutes, cripple London in 9 minutes, and bring down the escaping President’s helicopter in 11. In real life, not so much.

Word layering is an existential threat to our nation. You take that back!

I can understand why my history of using words presents a challenge for you. Well, actually, I can’t but everyone has a challenge of one sort or another.

Lol you’re easily manipulated. 🤣

Gosh dude….you think there are no special favors, treatment or allies unless the President is of the same party? That’s mind numbingly, almost criminally simple. It does explain the traction a single ***** hair can offer though.

Hunter hasn’t been fair game anywhere along the line, BillSy. He was protected by the US government with Burisma, protected by the dem establishment during the election of 2020, protected by the entirety to the Intelligence community, and protected from prosecution for several years by the DOJ…and now being protected by you, now. He’s been above the law, BillSy, and even now, the assignment of a sp counsel who was comfortable with a handshake and easy plea shows he gets taken care of like and insider. Just be sure he’s your guy, you should want justice.

It’s the game, Chi. Such is life. 🤷🏼‍♂️ Put away the yearbook, Friend. It’s not 1991, and the great ***** hair conspiracy has simply morphed into the latest crazy conspiracy theory.

I heard this argument last night on a talk radio show… quoting Andrew Sullivan. It makes sense, of course, that a Special counsel might be special. The point was also made that as a member of the DOJ, Weiss is investigating the son of his boss and perhaps by extension, his boss. Finally, it should be noted that Weiss was apparently assigned SC status due to the unusual nature of the alleged crimes. I don’t understand that— two weeks ago an allegedly perfectly crafted plea bargain designed to serve justice similar to whatever regular guy on the street might get if he failed to declare millions in income, partnered with hostile government, illegally possessed a handgun and discarded it without regard to public safety—why would a SC be required? Once the determination was made, why assign the guy who f’d this simple case up enough that a judge had to intervene to see it through? I’ll bet John from Riverside is hurting for Hunter today.

What he’s going to say back is that as a guy who got really lucky in life, the ability of people to overcome obstacles and tragic events in life impresses the heck out of me. In fact, when you and I first discussed things a few years back, it changed the way I approached certain topics, online and in person*. Drac’s story here provides context and experiences that likely will do the same. I’m trying to keep learning, Mup, that’s all. Ps: no idea what MUWAH means, but it sounds dirty.

Forgot to mention…met Robin Quivers at a mall somewhere along the way. 1986, 87 maybe. She seemed like a nice lady based on the 300 seconds or so we spoke.

B, he threatened an assassination, and according to reports, pointed his weapon at law enforcement officers. I’m all for a review of the fact pattern, release of tapes, etc. That should tell us a lot. I’m all for a review of alternative options to take him into custody. It does seem odd that law enforcement would visit him the day before the raid without warrants, given that they thought he posed a grave threat to pretty much anyone. It’s possible we have another example of a militarized law enforcement and using a tank to solve a problem when a 2005 Impala would have worked , and it’s certainly fair to discuss other options to take him in without an early morning raid. However, it seems clear this guy was gravely mentally ill, heavily armed and was moving rapidly toward an unfortunate end.

I lived in the lower Hudson Valley throughout the 1980s. My job involved a lot of driving, and Howard was must listen for me in those days. There were times I took an extra turn or two to catch the rest of a segment to the break. Rented his pay per view, read his book etc. I’m in the camp of thinking he stopped being funny quite a while ago. Probably a natural thing when you’re worth several hundred million and realize you’re best known for sophomoric humor and you haven’t been a sophomore for 50 years. Still a great interviewer though.

What an amazing journey and thanks for sharing. I don’t deal with these issues but it always helps to understand what others might be going through.

❤️✊🏻Muppito.

For goodness sake Red, I’m pulling for you but there are only so many notches. Lesser. Is, as, and approximating a value smaller in size.

And…many a lesser man watched as he was confirmed.

John, from the side of the River, says this is all a big coinky-dink.

What would make you think he would he show any restraint whatsoever? He's facing life in prison, are they going to tack 90 days on because he said some mean things about Jack Smith? Get out the popcorn. We might find out who really killed JFK (and worse) before this is over.

I'd get out the popcorn.

Thankfully no time limits for bring charges is involved. Let's get this right! It's not so much that Hunter and JB are above the law, more like they are beside it.