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While it seems you may have missed the intended spirit of my reply, I understand what you're saying. Your perspective is different than mine, and divergent opinions make the world an interesting place. I would like to offer some additional perspective to clarify my thoughts: In response to my post, you said this: Where did I say I look down on painters. I didn't say that, though I guess I can see why you feel I inferred it. In your original post, you said: "Had some poor ***** painter..." and later described that individual as "...someone so stupid". On this message board, asterisks typically replace words that are considered derogatory, uncivil or offensive. You defined the individual by his/her occupation, seemingly suggesting his occupation was relevant to being poor and *****. I was uncertain if his/her being a painter was as important as him/her being poor, *****, or "stupid". So, I asked. Thank you for clarifying. As for 'creating angles', again, I think we're on the wrong track here. In your initial post, you asked "I mean how do you talk to someone so stupid." In response to this query, I shared some basic strategies on how you might talk to someone given how you positioned the interaction. In spite of your characterizations, I feel comfortable I have a pretty solid skillset based on my life experience, understanding of course that seeking positive continuous improvement is part of the journey. Remember, make respect your default. The rest follows.

If you’re unable to effectively communicate with an individual you disagree with, you likely need to improve your communication skills. Part of your challenge in this case seems to be you’re starting with a rigid ideological position, you’re closed-minded, and unwilling to even consider the perspective of the other party. You also seem to have a complete disregard for the other person’s occupation, which is unusual. Do you have issues with all painters? Try respect as a default. Open your ears, close your mouth. Ask probing questions. Be purposeful in seeking out common ground. Disagree agreeably. This will get you started.

Horrible story, though I have to tell you, I'm not sure I agree with you on 'what this country is all about'. I see cases where property owned by families for generations is seized by the government through eminent domain, people are overcharged for crimes or blamed/targeted for the actions of others. I think we probably both wish that sort off ugliness didn't exist, and outrage didn't fall around political lines, but that's the way it is. In this case, I'd think somewhere between "open borders and chaos" and "forcing a 55 year old veteran of the US Army to leave" is probably where we all want to be. That said, we have what we have because of what was allowed and encouraged. It's a mess. Perhaps cooler, more compassionate heads with prevail and this man can be brought back to his family.

I forgot about that—I read in the Crimson Muckraker that he’s also upset that Harvard is on the govt dole and has fifty billion in a slush fund. That’s why I think he’s a legit stone cold rager against the machine(s). He’s probably pissed he’s gotta deal with all that friggin money he’s made. Street cred. ✊

In fairness that’s when Trump was first outed as a KGB wet work assassin, a taller Boris Badenov likely to put poison in his opponent’s covefee. Some people were really, really scared.

I think Rage was legit, a real anti-establishment stick-it-to-the-man band striking back against the corporate industrial complex. When Tom Morello plays with Springsteen, word is that he's "quite uncomfortable" with dynamic ticket pricing as offered by Ticketmaster and made his feelings known backstage by leaving a post-it note in Bruce's dressing room at the Honda Center in Anaheim. When he orders up a Lyft or Uber ride on his Apple iPhone, he won't even get into a Honda due to the carbon footprint of the manufacturer. At Coachella brought to you by Heineken™, he refuses to drink the free brew offered instead preferring to have his drink of choice shipped by UPS/Fedex and stored in a custom Rage Against the Machine™ Yeti™ cooler. He's also a committed activist, haven spoken out about the dangers of climate change whenever he embarks on a national/international tour to play in front of thousands who travel long distances to come see him. Unconfirmed rumor: he doesn't even use the heater on his swimming pool at his 2700 sf LA home unless it's super chilly out.

Thanks, it helps to know what people think/believe on issues like this. I can understand your father’s devotion to his grandmother and how that might impact his view on this debate. Speaking from personal experience, much of what I think today is based on experiences with my grandparents, parents and people that meant a lot to me in the past. While that can negatively impact perspective, it can be liberating when those that came later, through different, and in some respects softer times seek to lecture about sins of the past, present and future. I’ll step away from that for now because in spite of our differences, anything further makes me feel sorta dirty as I delve into people I know nothing about. So, the white then…

As usual, very well laid out and very makes a ton of sense. I might offer one additional consideration, purely from the perspective of human emotion. Since the 10/7 attacks, the level of animosity towards the Israelis has ratcheted up substantially in many places. Anti-semitism is the default for many people, and the Israelis must be astounded watching demonstrations in support Hamas (from their perspective anyway). I think when they say that if they did not address the situation now, there likely was no next generation in large part because of that widespread support.

No, no additional technical questions for your father at this time. A couple non-tech questions: Does your father share your view of the Israeli people and leadership? Does he view the regime as genocidal, war criminals etc and support dragging them off to an international court? Does he view the dismantling of Israel as we know it, reimagined into the two state solution as the only reasonable outcome to address the traumas of the past? Jesus, Kay, I already said this. I enjoy reading some of your posts but suggest efficiency might be your friend. Easy breezy: You’re asking the wrong question. My answer: Wear the white one, it suits your complexion, will reduce the potential for flop sweating in the summer heat, and remember that just enough accessorizing is found at the intersection of “That looks nice” and “If this car goes into a lake you gon’ drown girl”. These things and others I’ve learned over a lifetime of observing people, and you are very welcome.

I’m not on Twitter, but am quite certain you’re accurately describing what you saw there. For whatever reason, that place and places like it bring out the worst in people and sometimes the worst type of people. However, again, I think if you’re suggesting there wasn’t hatred directed against conservatives/Trump voters linked to the comments I shared, I think you’re not paying attention to the ugliness that follows those sorts of comments. There is no hate shield or bubble wrap there, or some disclaimer “THIS IS A HATE FREE ZONE—these are insults only!”. It’s ugliness pure and simple, it’s just pointed in a different direction. I understand how you feel about his comments on AC, and I’m not trying to convince you otherwise, I’m just telling you how I feel about it. As for Trump and his behavior at times, no disagreement from me.

I didn’t call you weak, I didn’t call you a pus.sy, I didn’t call you anything at all and have no idea why you think I might. I told you what I thought about Trump’s comments directly, and provided examples of comments I thought were hateful. I didn’t “hate” Anderson Cooper before the silly comment by Trump, I don’t hate Anderson Cooper after Trump made the silly comment…in fact, I rarely think of him one way or the other and I think I’m probably in the majority. I guess we just disagree, but it sure seems to me you’re the small-minded one in this conversation, seemingly wanting to position yourself as the arbiter of how everyone must feel.

Deplorable. Irredeemable. Garbage. These are words used as well, and there was no cattle call for resignation for the hateful language used. I’d have been perfectly ok without hearing this silliness from DJT about Andersen Cooper, it’s ridiculous and completely unnecessary. Still, selective outrage is n interesting thing. To answer your question, I would consider deplorable/irredeemable/garbage terms about tens of millions of American voters heinous. It would be interesting to see if AC used the type of language you used here to call out Clinton/Biden, and of course compelled them to resign over that hate speech.

This is interesting, Kay, regardless of anything I may say subsequently that might inadvertently offend. It’s not always what you say, it’s sometimes what’s not said that is intriguing. The calendar year has 191 days left, and the subject revolves around radical religious fanatics waging a holy war against…everyone. 192 days wouldn’t manke me feel all that great. 198 days is better, but still, reminder…fundamentalists, holy war, believe in human sacrifice for the cause, etc etc kaBOOM! When exactly does your dad believe that Iran will be able to strike Israel? Let’s agree to disagree, indeed! As to the pantsuit, how dare I? How dare I? You’ve missed on every new or reimagined portrayal of me from day one, and I’ve not taken offense. I dare, Kay, I dare lots.

Well you would be wrong, ya rube.

We go where the road takes us, Mup. If it takes me to potato chips, so be it. Soon enough, everyone will have an opinion of the Straight of Hormuz, except maybe me and a few other souls. Potato chips though—the byproduct of the food of my ancestors, that’s forever girl.

Real rock n roll deep state intrigue. Dogs and butterflies don’t mix after all.

I like sour cream and cheddar potato chips with my lunch. I have no idea how anyone could not like them as well. You want Pringles? You’re no friend is mine.

Rolling Stone Cub reporter Doobie “Hash” Piper with his first big story since covering the Vibe divide between Ann and Nancy Wilson of Heart.

Still skeptical of government power, still question everything, still recognize that the camp I’m in— the “Holy crap I hope the evidence they saw that convinced them that they had to act at this level, at this time”—-and hope it turns out to be the correct camp to be in. It’s ultimately a luxury to sit and judge this (or any) military action, and I’m mindful that I could be in the wrong camp. However, the international community, keepers of the peace, etc all seem to point to the conclusion that Iran unchecked was going in one direction and that was a very bad thing. That they chose that path tilts the scale for me. I think I’m pretty consistent in this regard. I appreciate your diplomacy before death approach to this situation, but I see a certain amount of naivety in parsing between a day, a month and a year with the stakes here. The Iranians were in the catbird seat and simply had to agree not to do that which everyone (even a non-intervention interventionist in a Hillary Clinton pantsuit like you) feels they should not be done. You’re apparently willing to wait unit the bomb is made but not yet deployed, I’m hoping the decision was appropriate and they dealt with it before that happened.

Yes, exactly like Iraq…that’s why you have to hold your nose. And yes, hopefully they go quietly, though they could have done that already.

I’m no warmonger, but it seems clear to me that Iran was viewed as an imminent threat to the safety of…the world. I say this not because bombs were dropped, but because the international community seems quite fixated on Iran not developing nuclear weapons. Yes, it was possible to sit back, wait another year, or two, or five, or to allow Iran to develop their weapons program. At the risk of repeating an earlier point, the reality is we don’t know what intelligence analysis revealed and at some point, hold your nose and trust, or hold your nose and criticize, each of which leaves us in the same place. I understand your perspective and guess we’ll have to see. Off the top of my head….Costa Rica. Argentina. Dominican Republic. Columbia. Guyana.

There’s a lot of hypocrisy in the public school system. I saw something last night where a young lady received sportswoman of the year award. I’m sure she’s a great young lady and athlete, but I just don’t see the point when other students might suffer at home, with learning or whatever. Anyway, the 10 Commandments should not be posted in a public school imo.

It’s interesting that a guy who lead the free world for 8 years and is known for his eloquence struggled to find the words to describe his version of government regulated free speech.

I don't know, Kay, because while Iran was potentially compliant during v1.0, they clearly were not compliant after being compliant. In addition, it seems logical to question the arbiters of compliance, given Iran's wax on/wax off approach to being good international citizens. It seems more likely to me that they are playing a long gane, moving forward with the intent to secure nuclear capability. Ah, so you were not talking at all about the US government/intelligence apparatus covertly encouraging regime change. It seems to me that a fundamentalist regime like Iran would not be comfortable as all with allowing the Tok (et al) and western decadence into the homeland. CKA shows way too much skin for the average extremist, I would think, and they view that as a non-negotiable and far beyond the pale. Maybe, though. As to Israel, you've beaten that drum loudly and clearly, and at some point to me you cross from sensible citizen of the world to...well, to something I'm not interested in debating.

Right, but they're a scary bunch, too, like the Leprechaun.