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I think reasonable people understand that politicians are rarely held accountable for things that would have put any one of us behind bars. Recognizing that, the bs meter starts going off when the party in power launches multiple attacks on multiple fronts. The Dems oversold just about everything this election cycle: Biden’s cognitive fitness; Biden’s ability to debate; Biden’s ability to pass the blame for his economy; Harris’ likability; Harris’ electability; Legal action against Trump; The believability of novel concepts of slippage and special rules for electeds; Reliance on voting blocs they’ve long taken for granted;

Wait…be these closing walls or doors and windows opening wide? If you see the Kempster will you ask him? I asked a question the other day but haven’t heard back.

Or, fascist or something similar. Be that as it may, I'm convinced that partnering with Elizabeth Cheney (or Dick Cheney) wasn't the score of the century for Team Harris. It really hit right at the heart of "Who is this Kamala Harris, anyway?" problem your objective Das Bot might have delved into. A left-leaning lefty historically would not align with a Cheney and certainly not crow about landing the Cheney endorsement. It is consistent with Harris inconsistency, though--she was a vocal advocate of victim rights during #metoo, seemingly abandoned her principles in that regard when she partnered with JB, and completely nuked the narrative by making Bill Clinton her mouthpiece on the campaign trail.

Not everyone, I guess, just the reasonable non-extreme moderate liberal or indey. I think as a rule, those voters aren’t really here to any great degree. Here, we see those who tread toward the extreme liberal position, and they likely too entrenched in their dogma to be rational.

It just always seems to be the money that saves the world….

@Kemp I was thinking about this thread and the twists and turns the political landscape has taken since you started it. First, kudos to you for predicting the Bragg case would end in a conviction. Personally, I wasn't sure how it would play out, though in these highly charged political days I had zero doubt a conviction was on the table given the variables in play. It seems we're coming to the end of the case one way or the other--either it is dismissed or Trump deals with it over the next few years. On the other hand, wow, what an amazing last 4 months for those who follow politics! Biden in, Trump forces Biden out after the debate, Trump nearly assassinated, Kamala by proxy, Kamala wins debate against Trump, Trump the target of second assassin, Trump on the ropes, Harris on the ropes, media reports predicting a win for Harris, polls ****ed up again, and ultimately a pretty clean sweep for the GOP riding the coattails of the greatest and most unlikely comeback in the history of American politics. This leads to my question. Do you think the walls that were be closing ceased to represent an attempt at justice (for those who felt they were), and morphed into political persecution in the eyes of independent and moderate dem voters? In other words, were the wall be closing too much? Should your leadership have taken the foot off the gas, allowed, say, the Smith case to be the main focus? The way I see it, perhaps less would have been more.

Pre 11/5/24 Dem leaders: You like and support Joe Biden! He’s strong and mentally competent! You feel secure with him! Ned: I like and support Joe Biden. He’s strong and extremely competent mentally! I feel secure with him. Joe Biden at debate: PENNSYLVANIA SMELLS LIKE TOMATOES! Dem leaders: Joe Biden is sharp as a tack, but you’re a bit concerned he might be getting on in years. Ned: Joe Biden is sharp as a tack, but I’m a bit concerned he’s getting on in years. Dem leaders: You know, Harris is kinda cool. She’s vibrant, fresh and fun to be with. You think you’ll vote for her! Ned: Harris is kinda cool. She’s vibrant, fresh and fun to be with. I think I’ll vote for her. Dem leaders: Trump is done, Harris is going to win this big time. Ned: Trump is done. Harris is going to win this big time. 11/6/24 Ned: Republicans can’t think for themselves!! b7niner2466bigelow9

As a child, you must have read “The Little Engine Who Couldn’t” and “Trudy: The Untold Story of Rudy’s Homely And Uncoordinated Twin Sister Who Wanted To Be A Cheerleader But Knew She Couldn’t Make It And Didn’t” . You gotta open your mind, Wacks.

Good God, yes, I can see it happening. The VP runs without the intention of leading the country, then flip flops on the bing bong and does the 23 skidoo smell ya later. I want to go on record as being against that, and I certainly hope that if such a flim flam caper was afoot, they tell us in advance to preserve transparency and democracy.

Well, to be fair, this was for a teen beauty pageant, so I would normally give her a gigantic pass, but it's a pretty funny clip. In fact, what I love about her approach was her absolute determination to see it through when she had to know she was completely turned around and lost. That takes guts. Plus she ultimately delivers a message of hope by ending with "so we will be able to build up our future". That's where I think she differs from 4th, btw.

Excellent word play with “furor”. I’m not certain there was any mass generalized excitement for Gaetz, but he was the nominee of the president-elect. Regardless, I like what you did here. Gaetz is no longer the nominee, so time to move forward. You’re good with Bondi?

4th on other important topics of the day:

Thank goodness this is in NC. In NYS, they maybe haul those folks down to an innocuous medical facility and test em all for rabies.

I think for many progressive voters, Bondi is the wrong type of woman. She also is probably conflicted, obviously.

I've only been to Europe once--Vienna with side trips to Salzburg and Prague. I enjoyed the history and some of the beautiful buildings dating back 100s of years. Good trip but I was ready to come home when we left. Our next trip that way will be Italy, I believe. I don't have a burning desire to see much of Europe, but think that would be pretty cool. I'll read up on Lisbon--thanks for the scoop.

First, I think you're probably upper middle class and may actually have a mansion. 5500 sf overlooking the ski slopes at some as-yet-undiscovered-by-the-masses mountain. Probably called Pecunious Mountain, or something ribald...Snowsnatch, something like that. As for Portugal, I've never been but it looks pretty awesome. Again, we probably agree on Portia thought she seems to prefer her chili dogs to be served without the dog.

I think a lot of middle class liberal voters see a bit of themselves in this couple, and if the could flee their beachfront mansion and fly a charter to their mansion in England, that what they would do.

Well, it is interesting to me that out of all these egregious allegations, and supposedly credible allegations of criminal activity, that no charges were filed against him. Like, You can indict a ham sandwich, right? Now would be a good time to remind the listening audience that Biden groped a number of women, Harris believed them all, and 214 million people voted for that team. Politics is a sleazy game. Also, I bring up Schumer’s dark narrative on the intelligence community and the “six ways to Sunday” they can get a person. This may be what he was talking about. Anyway, he withdrew so time to move on.

Next person up, B.

We agree here.

She’s “dowdy”?? What kind of freaky assless chaps sh*t is going down in Frank’s world?!

Ah come on! That’s a perfectly legitimate dodge!

That’s a sensible take. You don’t agree with the plan and want to see compromise. I’m not convinced the tariffs are a bad idea, at least when considered in the context of the state of our government and spending historically. However, I should point out that I simply indicated I wondered how devastating the Harris plan would have been, which still seems like an interesting question given so many millions of people supported it.

I don't understand why you wouldn't understand. The election was a couple weeks ago, your people still run the show and really, anything goes at this point. You brought up a point about Target maybe considering an impact when Trump take office or at some point thereafter. It wasn't "knee jerk", it was the reality of the choices we had. The plan democrats voted for had the potential to destroy the stock market, and that's from the lips of Mark Cuban, Harris Man. If it makes you feel better, we can run about fretting about what the future might look like on plans not yet implemented, negotiations that have yet to take place, or alternative solutions considered, but why not talk about the reality today? Can we talk about Biden/Harris in any substantive way, the escalation in Ukraine for example, or do we table that too because Trump's in charge now (well, in two months)?

You’re consistently and demonstrably wrong on most of your opinions, like almost pathologically incorrect. I’m not certain your view on deflection is really all that important. I’ll consider it, though, before discarding. From my perspective, it was part of the reason voting for your lady friend was a no-go. There was concern expressed her plan would have devastating consequences on the stock market, and Frank’s post dealt with that. You’re correct, though, we’ll never know and heavy lies the crown. That was my point earlier when you were going to bat for high prices at Walmart. Maybe had you not stayed on the sidelines…anyway, we’ll never know. Good stuff though.