JPL7

Props to Dibs for reading what I had to say for what it truly meant. Not over reacting and getting homer on me like appearently The Avenger has. Look i love bills daily a ton, i cant express that enough, but Avenger you seem to have some over the top affection for the site and/or its staff. i dont know if you are apart of the staff or are close with someone who is or what, but really lets relax a bit here. instead of blowing up on me about it, just take exactly what i said for as is, no more, no less. i believe i am being very clear and completely rational in my statements. so no sir u are incorrect, i do not have a "warped sense of rational means". i believe it is clear that i have a firm grasp on just what "rational" means.

i read on ESPN.com's rummor central that the Bills are bringing in former Colorado State QB Bradlee Van Pelt in for some work. Interesting! Obviously new guys are brought in all the time and rarely does anything happen, but if something should happen does that mean Holcomb or Nall would be on there way out? Any opinions?

whoa there big guy, have a calm down! i dont need to get over myself, b/c i am not looking down at anyone or acting as if im better then them, not in the least. you have taken what i said a bit to the extreme. im not bashing bills daily or its staff. in fact i love this site and respect the opinion they express. I just find it ridiculious when ppl over/under react to situations and then state there opinion without thinking clearly first. if someone doesnt agree with me, that is A-OK. I absolutely respect others poinion when they are informed and have clear reason for why they believe what they believe (and this is my view on all topics, not just about the bills or sports). But the reaction that Bills fans have had over the last couple weeks about the teams performance and JP's in particular has been overkill. I just found it a bit nitpicky that they made it a point to mention the fumble and the "overthrow". As if they were blowing it up more then it needed. That is all I was saying, so relax man and dont jump down my throat. I'll respect what you or anyone else has to say if you make a clear definitive point. And by the way, I know what its like to run a web site. I did for 3 years previously and am working on another one currently. So I know the detail, time and effort it takes to maintain a site day by day. Umm yes actually I dont think it is too much to ask of someone to think rationally before they open up their mouth. If society in general did more of that, I think the world would be a little better off. If their viewpoints do not match mine, like i said before, no problem here, just dont spout off some nonsense without thinking. I think that is plenty fair.

After reading the Bills daily grades and game summary, as well as many of the posters on this board, I must say that it is time for everyone to relax. And when you discuss or review the game, speak (or type) rationally. I find it ridiculious the bashing being done by the people who run this site and the members of this board on JP Losman. yea yea yea, bash me b/c my screen name is JPL7 blah blah blah. Instead of flaming away at that, respond to the content on my post. First: Do I think JP had a great game? Absolutely not! He was terrible in the first half. He looked inconsistent and inaccurate. But hey folks, newsflash, that is going to happen to someone who is basically a first or second year starter (depending on how you look at it). Some of the blame should absolutely fall on JP. But also on the lines abysmal play as well as the playcalling. It took Jaroun and Co. 3 quarters to get things straightened out. By then, too little, too late. I found it funny that on the Bills Daily review and grades, they made it a point too mention the "overthrow" on the bomb too Andre Davis. It was literally 6 inches from his fingers roughly 50 yards down field. So on a 50 yard throw he was about 6 inces off?? Yea that is terrible isnt it? And by the way, had Davis not slowed himself down by turning back to early on the route, that ball would have been damn near perfect. So hey BD reviewer.... SHUT UP about that already. Also the fumble was mentioned twice also. If stupid Gandy wasn't a turnstile dressed in a Bills uniform, JP would not have been clocked from the blindside like he was and would not have fumbled. What do you expect is going to happen when you get hit from the blindside???? Name a time when a QB gets drilled from the back and actually holds on too it? I'd love to see it!! And is it fair to say that the playcalling was terrible right up until the 4th? I have been saying all year and particularly this game, that our best bet is the short and intermediate range passes (12 yards deep and in) to keep the chains moving. With a few deep bombs here and there to capitalize on our speed and JP's arm strength and to keep the defense honest. But this 15 and 20 yard nonsense is not going to get it done. Not with this O-Line, sorry folks. The WR's do not have enough time to let there routes develop that far down the field, before JP gets sacked. And let me make it clear there were a few times you can say that JP held the ball a little long. But that is what good coverage will make you do. Is nobody else aware of that? For the most part I think JP's natural characteristic is to get the ball off quick (sometimes too quick). As if he is trying to hard to make something happen or force a play that hasnt developed yet. Though in my opinion he has improved on that this season compared to his previous stints. Anyhow my point is, to throw all this blame on JP for miniscule nonsense is just ridiculious. Again, he certainly doesnt go blameless. But lets give credit (good or bad) where credit is due. The line stinking (Gandy in particular) and the playcalling being awful can really do a young QB in. We all have to be aware of the fact that JP isnt going to be perfect and will have his fair shares of ups and downs. Its just part of the maturation process. Remember that!! This team is on the right track, though of course some improvements need to be made. So all I'm saying is, everyone chill out a bit and be fair and just to this team, its players and its coaching staff. Dont blame too little or too much any of these wins or losses on anyone one facet of our franchise. OK im done, flame away if you wish!!

curious as to if anyone knew where our slew of final camp cuts ended up? seeing who has a job who doesnt? thanks

that is odd....... why did they release Boston if they plan on possibly re-signing him down the road. and also didnt he have a solid pre season. at least that is what i thought i heard anyway.

ill take Nate Salley for some young depth. i was hoping during the draft we would have picked him up.

hey guys..... only 2 spots left! draft on monday!

with this tuesday all teams must have rosters cut down to 75, what 8 guys do u think will be next to go? and if u have any "surprises" why do u see them going? discuss!

bump to the top!

funny u said that b/c when i created the league i was contemplating that myself. here ill go on the league message board and see what other owners think. we will do it the democratic way. haha! thanks for the suggestion!!

the reason i put the defensive players on there is b/c i personally have never played in a league with them. so i wanted to give them a shot. and the reason i made it points is b/c i have never done a league like that either. i just wanted to try something new and different instead of the same old same old yah know?! im already in two other classic leagues, so i wanted a change of pace i guess. thanks for your interest and suggestions. but all and all the whole point of me making those changes was to try something new. therefore i am going to keep the rules as they are currently. thanks again! anymore comments, concerns, etc, im all ears. good luck all!

Hey my fellow Bills fans. I just created a league through Yahoo! for just Bills fans. Any Bills fan is welcome to join, though I ask that you only sign up if you are going to follow your team every week, even if your team is struggling. Nothing is worse in fantasy football when guys dip on their teams and screw the rest of the fantasy owners playing. So again I ask for only serious players! Best of luck and enjoy. Any questions, comments or concerns feel free to ask. Spread the word to other Bills fans. Here is the league info: League ID:528248 Password fantasy Draft Type Live Online Draft Draft Time Mon Aug 28 8:30pm EDT Scoring Type: Points only... No head to head records!!

Hey my fellow Bills fans. I just created a league through Yahoo! for just Bills fans. Any Bills fan is welcome to join, though I ask that you only sign up if you are going to follow your team every week, even if your team is struggling. Nothing is worse in fantasy football when guys dip on their teams and screw the rest of the fantasy owners playing. So again I ask for only serious players! Best of luck and enjoy. Any questions, comments or concerns feel free to ask. Spread the word to other Bills fans. Here is the league info: League ID:528248 Password fantasy Draft Type Live Online Draft Draft Time Mon Aug 28 8:30pm EDT Scoring Type: Points only... No head to head records!!

No easy solution to Bills' QB conundrumBy Ken Moll Scouts Inc. When there's no clear-cut answer at quarterback, deciding on a starter is one of the toughest calls for any football team. That is exactly the situation facing the Bills as the regular season nears. Let's take a close look at who might be at the helm for Buffalo in 2006. Barring injury, the competition is between Kelly Holcomb (a 33-year-old undrafted free agent out of Middle Tennessee State) and J.P. Losman (a 25-year-old first-rounder in 2004 out of Tulane). Craig Nall, an offseason acquisition from Green Bay, was expected to be in the mix as well, but a left hamstring injury has forced him to miss significant time in camp. I can speak firsthand about Holcomb, as I scouted for the Browns during his three-year stint in Cleveland. Despite his even-keeled personality, Holcomb is an intense, competitive player with excellent work ethic. He is very tough and will play nicked up. Midway through his sophomore season in college, he broke his jaw on a goal-line play. He finished the game in a losing effort. After missing the next game only because he couldn't fit his helmet over his swollen cheekbones, Holcomb returned to action with his jaw wired shut and led the Blue Raiders to a 10-3 mark and a postseason berth. Middle Tennessee State has not been to postseason play since he departed Murfreesboro, Tenn. Holcomb is a career 60 percent-plus passer who has the arm strength, instincts and decision-making ability to win in the NFL. He had several excellent outings with Cleveland, including a 429-yard, three-touchdown playoff performance in inclement weather against Pittsburgh in 2003. He showed flashes of being a solid quarterback in 2005 as he threw for over 1,500 yards at a 67 percent completion rate. Losman is a young, up-and-coming quarterback with a stronger arm and better wheels than Holcomb. Losman is a California kid who has much more of an edge. He is a tough, competitive player, but it has been said that he could rub his coaches and teammates the wrong way while at Tulane. Losman has many tools, but his decision-making and overall leadership skills need to develop to make him a topflight quarterback. Losman had several excellent games at Tulane (as a senior he threw for more than 3,000 yards with 33 TDs and only 14 INTs), but also had the occasional clunker. With the Bills last season, Losman mostly struggled. He had as many interceptions as touchdowns (eight) and his completion percentage was under 50 percent, which is unacceptable. Head coach Dick Jauron has to consider a number of variables before he decides who will be under center on opening day versus New England. Can the new offensive line jell under coach Jim McNally? Will the addition of fullback Alan Ricard (a solid blocker for Jamal Lewis in Baltimore) help Willis McGahee live up to his potential? How well will the defense play with one of its best players, Takeo Spikes, coming off an Achilles injury? Jauron could go the safer route and choose the more experienced Holcomb, or take his chances with Losman, a young gun who has the potential to develop into a top-tier quarterback. Until a decision is made, uncertainty surrounding the most important position on the field will loom over Bills camp.

Updated: Aug. 10, 2006 Losman should get QB call By Michael Smith ESPN.com Archive CHARLOTTE, N.C. Here are five observations on the Bills based on their Aug. 12 preseason game against the Panthers: 1. It was painfully (that is, if you love the Bills) obvious why the team really has no choice other than to go with J.P. Losman as its quarterback. The reason behind the decision can be summed up in a word: upside. Kelly Holcomb is what he is: a smart backup quarterback who once in a while can give you a big game. But he's immobile and he can't get the ball downfield. And throwing picks that are returned for touchdowns doesn't help, either. At least Losman, with his athleticism, gives you the big-play element. A couple of times against the Panthers he did a nice job avoiding sacks that Holcomb would have taken. Losman's mobility is going to come in handy given the state of the Bills' offensive line. And he has a live arm. His problem besides his inexperience (eight career starts) is his tendency to squeeze the ball and short hop it to his intended receivers. Obviously, that has to be corrected. It's time for the Bills to swallow their pill, stop patching holes in their lineup, and develop their young players, starting with the quarterback. And unlike last year, when the position was handed to him, it'll help Losman's confidence if he has to win the starting job. His teammates will respect him more if he does. It's not officially his, but for the long-term health of the franchise, Losman has to be the guy this year if they're going to know whether he is indeed the QB of the future. 2. Takeo Spikes didn't play against Carolina but there's a strong chance he'll be in the lineup for the opener Sept. 10 at New England. Now it might take a little while longer for the old Spikes, coming off a torn Achilles suffered in the third game last season, to return, but a team official estimates he'll at least be back to about 85 percent by then and able to play. In training camp, Spikes has shown more burst to the ball than the official expected. It's mostly a matter at this point of Spikes' trusting his body. Once Spikes heals completely, he should thrive in new defensive coordinator Perry Fewell's version of the Tampa 2. 3. While Troy Vincent gives the Bills' defense flexibility in pass coverage, the former-corner-turned-free-safety's days as a starter could be numbered. That's because fourth-round pick Ko Simpson is enjoying a strong training camp. Simpson is physical, can cover, and has good ball skills. Keep in mind that Vincent still is relatively new to playing safety (he moved there at the end of the 2004 season) while Simpson, albeit on the college level, started every game at South Carolina. It's only a matter of time before first-rounder Donte Whitner assumes the strong safety duties from Matt Bowen (who suffered a leg injury against the Panthers). Don't be surprised if the Bills go with two rookie safeties and let them start growing up together sooner rather than later. Whitner had a team-high five tackles Saturday night. Not bad for a guy who arrived late to camp because of prolonged contract negotiations. Either way the Bills go at free safety, they are deep in the secondary. They've been impressed with all of their draft choices in the defensive backfield (corner Ashton Youboty, taken in the third round, should have had a pick against the Panthers) while veteran sub corner Jabari Greer is making a lot of plays in camp. Buffalo has a solid duo of starting corners in Nate Clements and Terrence McGee. The Bills should be pretty good against the pass. 4. Buffalo probably won't jump back into the top five defensively, but there's a lot to like about the Bills' defensive line. Seriously, with the Bills' new emphasis on speed, the return of Spikes, and the young talent the team brought in through the draft, the defense will rebound from last year and keep this team in some games. Up front the Bills are pretty good at end with vets Chris Kelsay, Aaron Schobel and Ryan Denney, all "high-motor" guys. They should have an interesting rotation at tackle. Free-agent-pickup Larry Tripplett and Tim Anderson are the starters but first-rounder John McCargo and fifth-rounder Kyle Williams will push for playing time. Buffalo is smaller inside than it has been in recent years so keeping those tackles fresh will be key. McCargo and Williams both played well Saturday night. McCargo showed good hand technique and got good penetration. Williams, a two-year starter at LSU, could turn out to be a steal. He's 6 feet, 295 pounds -- one of those fire-hydrant type guys. He's got a nose for the football. "He's one of those guys who doesn't look a lot different than he did in college," head coach Dick Jauron said of Williams after the game. 5. Peerless Price arrived in camp as probably the No. 4 or even No. 5 receiver but he's shown enough to perhaps warrant a starting spot opposite Lee Evans. Josh Reed is having a good camp, an early drop against Carolina not withstanding, but really is an underneath guy who'll catch a 6-yard pass and fight for the other yard on third-and-7. The Bills have to find a way to get the ball into little Roscoe Parrish's hands. Mike Mularkey wanted him to be the Bills' Antwaan Randle El, but now it's up to Jauron and offensive coordinator Steve Fairchild to figure out how to showcase Parrish's speed in the offense. It's going to be interesting to see how Evans does without Eric Moulds demanding the ball and double teams.

anyone know or have any personal reports??

QB: JP Nall Kingsbury RB: McGahee Thomas Williams FB: Shelton Goldsberry WR: Evans Price Reed Parrish Nance Aiken TE: Royal Everett Cieslak OT: Peters Gandy Gibson Butler OG: Villarrail Reyes Preston OC: Fowlers Geisinger DE: Schobel Kelsay Word Denney DT: Tripplett Anderson McCargo Williams OLB: Spikes Posey Crowell Stamer ILB: Fletcher Watson Haggan CB: Clements McGee Youboty King Greer SS: Whitner Bowen FS: Vincent Simpson K: Rian Lindell P: Brian Moorman LS: Mike Schneck Practice Squad: Fred Jackson (RB) Martin Nance (WR) Aaron Merz © Terrence Pennington (T) Keith Ellison (LB) Joshua Cooper (DE) Jason Jefferson (DT) Kiwaukee Thomas (CB) What say you??

is it 8 ppl on the squad? or am i completely off. haha! also what makes a player eligible to be on the PS? if i remember correctly u can only be in the league X amount of years or have X amount of experience, etc. thanks!!

anyone know if mike kudla (DE from OSU) was signed by anyone?

y didnt we take Wright over Williams? we already have a Williams type in Tim Anderson. the risk-reward possibility for Wright is huge.

no its not brilliant. the problem isnt whether or not we got fleeced on that mcgargo deal. its about even moving up in the first place to get him. when he easily would have been there at 42 and wed still have our picks. thats the problem.

could ppl please explain to me why we "need" a TE so bad?? we have some young solid guys there already. people who keep saying, i wanna smack. please tell me what im missing!

what do u guys think of these two guys? id love to see the bills take both of them in the 4th or 5th if avaliable. any word about these two from the rest of the board?

didnt he say he doesnt wanna coach anymore?