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Dude , my whole point has been to see if you guys would actually say that tweet was a falsehood. You just can’t bring yourself to say that. That being the case , the only logical conclusion is a wall will not work if we take Truos tweet as the truth. If a wall works , his tweet is a falsehood. Plain and simple. Which one is it? I have been clear in this thread i agree with a wall being built. That is not what this shutdown is about..it is about both parties appealing to their bases. If Trump has some stones , he would be standing firm on $30B, not $ 5b so he can get Ingraham and Coulter off his back.

I miss your point.. .. what are trying to say? That the wall is strictly a political talking point for both parties? Could not agree more. Please see all my responses in this thread in regards to that issue, and my stance in a wall. I think i may may have stated 10 times I would respect Trump more if he actually believed in the wall as a real safety issue for the US and demanded full funding for it. But it’s not about a wall for him, it’s about saying to his base I “ I got funding for a wall” .. no matter if it is for 1/10th of a wall and it’s useless at that scale. But his ridulous and false tweets about a wall already being in place and upgraded , and his stupid and false tweet last week about approving new wall construction fully confirm it is all a political game for him , as well as the democrats. Most people get that is what it about, people with Trump blinders actually think this is somehow about border security.

Okay, let’s use his words.” Much of the wall has been fully renovated or built”. Am am I being a tool by using his words? Just explain the efficacy of a wall and more funding if much of it has been built and renovated. Simple question.

Screw the process You like to hold assets for future , ala Kane two years ago ?I like to recognize an opportunity today. As you are fully aware , I am not a huge Risto fan going back to two years where the numbers said he was a net nagative, and you and everyone in this thread killed me. . include him and a prospect and first and get a # 2 center now. We we need some fun and hope, not more staybthe freaking course for a day that may never come. All IMHO of course?

yea,, chicks be thinking something different. Lord i hate my tiny hands!!! dude, we are in a position to make some moves. A #2 center is desperately needed..and this team and fan base needs a playoff appearance. 3 number 1s..eh. Get me one so for a combination of picks and decent prospect like Olufson or Smith..i all good. BTW, Ullmark should be the #1 at least for the time being

okay, obfuscate as much as you want..when oine has no clear logic argument ..fight over degrees of adjectives. Can you please explain this tweet as it relates to why a wall will work if we already have a wall why it's not working. If you cant, and you want to argue the difference between the meaning of much and most... I get it. You can't defend the tweet, so you try and switch the debate to the ridiculous. Works for dolts, does not work for people who have brains. Please for the love of god explain this tweet and the reason why we need more money for a wall when we already have one and yet have an epidemic problem with immigration. Simple question should be a simple answer if a wall works

really??? damn, I don't mind arguing with yall, but are we getting into he the meaning of the word is? Please do tell me the difference between "much" and "most"

“Much of the wall has been fully renovated or built” Exact freaking words, and I mean exact. Tell me where I am being disengenous.

@Buffalo_Gal So’s ya saying it was not related to Pelosi?? it it was a valiant try, and I had a good chuckle!

Directly from the horses(ass) mouth

Your words .. what part am I misconstruing? “Not when you have only 200 miles of wall. It’s not even half done yet. “ certainly implies you believe the wall is close to half done. Trumps words “we have a mostly built and upgraded wall” which one one is correct? You and the wall is not quite half built yet or Trump that it is? I am going with POTUS. after all, he is the POTUS. but tell me again how how I can’t read. And tell me again why a wall is effective if POTUS tells me we have a wall , and we still have an epidemic when it comes to illegal immigration. I have asked you this now three times, and you refuse to form an argument that refutes a wall is not an effective solution. Your standard retort of “ I walked away, Trump is smart, you dumb” is tiresome. Form an argument, present some evidence , and have a meaningful discourse on the subject.

You don’t even believe that! But nice try!

Hi All, This idea came up in the thread on Improving TBD..so thought I would post and see if we have enough folks interested to start a club/contest on the board. Simple idea..pick the Against the Spread winner in all the playoff games coming up. You get one point for each correct pick. Most points wins the contest. 10 or less entrants, prolly 100% to winner, more than 10 we can devise a payout structure. I can also research if these are best done with escalating points by round to keep people alive and interested etc. Anyways, if your interested just post in the thread a Yay!!

no..you posited that a wall was self-evident would be an effective measure against illegal immigration. Trump has posted that we have a wall already built and upgraded. So the evidence shows it does not work. I will take evidence over ideas 100% of the time. 200 miles half done eh?

Now I just don't understand..hsi(Trumps)words mind you, not mine @Swill Merchant argued a wall is a no brainer..and yet Trump claims we have a wall already along "much of the border" ..and yet we still have an immigration crisis. Seems to me throwing good money after bad maybe? Definition of insanity maybe? That's a brilliant retort!!!!! Was it going to take too long a time to form a cogent argument about the logic that follows the tweet and the immigration problem ala building a wall? If we have a wall already, and upgraded one at that, and we have a massive immigration problem..does that not logically mean a wall does not work??? just answer that simple question

I am not quite sure. According to Trump and his followers, we have an immigration crisis of massive proportions. and also according to Trump, we already have a wall in place and that has been fully renovated or built. So logic dictates a wall does not work..or he is lying..which one ya got?

Kitchens is the key there...but if he stays and the Offence hums, he is gone next year to a Head Coach job in a Willimas/Kitchens setup. Is that what the Browns want ..Gregg( the third G for genius) picking an offensive coordinator after one year? Or do you want an offensive minded coach ? Interesting questions

Yes the tariffs are having the desired effect on the Chinese economy. Reasonable people can disagree on if the desired effect is good or bad for the US economy. Trump is betting based on the volume of the trade deficit between the two countries, China will cry uncle first and acquiesce to the changes Trump wants. I think that may be wishful thinking..they ain't worried about an election! Lets even say they do give in 100% to Trump wants..a Chinese economy with 1.4 Billion people that now has less economic buying power..is that good for the US when so many companies have earnings and projections tied to that market? And yes, I think cutting the tax was a horrible idea for the economy. It was a one-time sugar rush injected into an already strong economy that was just not needed. It is affecting our deficits and the markets are reflecting what most expect to happen to corporate profits and growth in the next 18-24 months. Have some unskilled workers been able to be put back on employment rolls? Yep..lets see how long that lasts. Lots of indicators point to a weakening economy...outlined here very well i think. https://www.kiplinger.com/article/business/T019-C000-S010-business-spending-forecast.html

I totally get that!

Yes I can, itnis all over the place. The Chinese economy is slowing down, that’s just a fact. The Trump tariffs, while not 100% responsible for that, is contributing to the slowdown. BTW, that is THE VERY THING TRUMP WANTS , If you understood what Trump wanted to accomplish with the tariffs, you would be bragging on your guy causing the slowdown as he feels the pressure exerted on the Chinese by the tariffs would have this very effect and force them into negotiations. And BTW, when trilllion dollar market cap companies get hurt, you can bet your sweet behind it hurts all of USA. Let’s not forget the other pillar of his economic plan was to cut corporate tax so much earnings woild continually grow at outpaced levels , corporate spending therefore would increase, and all the tickle down effects would then occur. When you policies are having the the opposite effect, your whole plan is in trouble. Damn, do a little research and have a bit of understanding befor wjjuat saying “ Trump is God, never wrong”

2nd season...either episode 1 or 2

Guess a lot of people are like you, me included. Almost zero interest in the game. https://sports.yahoo.com/title-game-ticket-prices-plummeting-90-percent-college-football-worried-214530894.html

Hmmm, was this common? I was was just rewatching an old Community, and this very same thing was on there!

I think the larger macro issue is the 2nd largest economy in the world is starting to slow down. I am not saying 100% due to the Trump tariffs, but theyvare certainly contributing to to the slowdown. For many businessses, especially tech companies, a good portion of their 1-3 year strategic plans incorporate healthy revenue growth in China and APAC. Those projections and plans are being put at jeopardy due to the global slowdown that Trump is turbo charging with inane tariffs. Apple is just a harbinger of what’s to come earning wise from other tech companies if this tariff mess is not cleaned up quick.

Do you understand how global markets work and the effect of tariffs? My gut tells me no. Based on your statement, you believe somehow the US economy is insulated form world markets. God bless ya son, I guess ignorance teulybis bliss. Go back to being happy!