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The time to go balls out and show the world we were "mad as hell and not gonna take it anymore" was in the months after 9/11. We could have pulled a "Sherman", rolled and flew the entire U.S. Military across Afghanistan, flattenned the place, gotten Omar, gotten bin Laden and could have had a "bin Laden skull keg party" on CNN, with GWB slugging Coors Light out of bin Laden's bloody head and NOBODY ANYWHERE would have said a damn word.

Id still like to see bin Laden's head on a pike in front of Ground Zero.

THAT would have been great.

I did something like this a few times on Microsoft Flight Simulator. I loaded up a 767, took off from JFK and smashed it into the Empire State Building at 400 knots. Basically, just pointed the aircraft at the tower and then jammed the throttles to FULL on the joystick. Maybe its becuase I knew I was simulating a real-life event, but even on a somewhat crude in-home PC simulation, it was downright chilling when I slammed my virtual 767 into that tower.

Thank You for the clarification.

Were we really targeting his family in that operation? I dont recall. But youd know better than me. Point still stands thoough, and I still refute chicot's claim that Coalition FOrces have purposely targeted civilians. The way he talks, youd think it was Dresden all over again.

Name one....ONE time in post Vietnam warfare where civilians were targeted by "us".

Once again, I challenge the notion that that only a very small group of Muslim "extremists" harbor such strong hatred. The ill feelings towards the West and sympathy for the Islamfascists runs much deeper in the Muslim Community than many would like to believe. http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wo...dnews-headlines Here is another article with "outrage" by the Muslim community. But as usual, has the "yeah, but America is worse" part thrown in and what I like to call the "sympathetic to their (extremists) cause" clause. Notice the typical "conspiracy" stuff, too. Some quotes from the article.... Across the city and country, many of England's 1.6 million Muslims expressed outrage during Friday's prayers over the bomb attacks the day before, noting that Islam teaches peace. At the same time, many Muslims wondered whether the obscure al-Qaida offshoot that claimed responsibility had really carried out the bombings. "Maybe the French did it because they didn't get the [2012] Olympics and England did," said Aftab Ahmad, 27, a waiter who attended the Central Mosque prayer service. "Why do they always say Muslims do attacks like this?" "You can blame Tony Blair and George Bush, too, and all the leaders who are making Muslims angry by fighting in Iraq," said another worshiper, Libyan-born chef Mohamad Ahmad, 29. Some Muslims thought it was possible that al-Qaida followers might have committed the bombings. But few thought that would jeopardize the popularity of the group's leader, Osama bin Laden. "A fair number of Muslims have an inveterate passion for Osama because he upholds Islamic beliefs and stands up to the West," said Adanak Malik, 35, a filmmaker who said he was "indifferent" to Bin Laden. "Even Muslims who condemn violence can relate to that."

I compare this to the final flight of Concorde. In the UK, it was treated as a marvel and celebration by just about everyone. Even the folks who endured the worst of it, such as those living close to Heathrow said they would "miss it". Here? It was looked down upon, spat at, and told "good riddance". There were even protests (!!) on the day of its final flight, as if to say "...and STAY out". So typical. I always say...we, here could learn a lot about "living" by our friends across the Pond.

Last 2 years (Iraq) vs. last 40 years (Israel).

Im sorry, but the claim that Jihadism and its ideology is limited to a very small number of "extremists" is just not true. Of course, most Muslims are peaceful and condemn it. But those who agree and sympathize with Jihadism and the "extremists" are NOT just small fringe group like chicot would like you to believe. In the whole Muslim flock, there is more than one "black sheep." http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/07/08...lims/index.html

Ah, dont worry....liberals will just classify it as "art" by showing the Virgin Mary under the elephant's ass and it will be considered "protected".

Oh my God.....Deb's real itentity is finally revealed...SHES REALLY BILL GATES!!!!

I think we are BOTH making some assumptions on what the other said...both incorrectly. Lets leave it at that. I still stand by my statement, however that appeasement will never work in combatting Evil.

So YOU making assumptions and drawing your own conclusions without getting further clarification=GOOD Anyone else doing it=BAD If you cant figure out you did the same exact thing you got pissy with me for, then there's no help for you.

You write this here and then in the now closed "Under attack" thread say I stated "that terrorism aparrently can be stomped out 100 percent " Youve got some set of balls.

Come on....we all know they were "little Eichmanns" who had it coming! Words of Wisdom.... "I have, myself, full confidence that if all do their duty, if nothing is neglected, and if the best arrangements are made, as they are being made, we shall prove ourselves once again able to defend our Island home, to ride out the storm of war, and to outlive the menace of tyranny, if necessary for years, if necessary alone. At any rate, that is what we are going to try to do. That is the resolve of His Majesty's Government-every man of them. That is the will of Parliament and the nation. The British Empire and the French Republic, linked together in their cause and in their need, will defend to the death their native soil, aiding each other like good comrades to the utmost of their strength. Even though large tracts of Europe and many old and famous States have fallen or may fall into the grip of the Gestapo and all the odious apparatus of Nazi rule, we shall not flag or fail. We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender, and even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this Island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old."

This attitude as shown above, one of the hallmarks of the left, is one of the most spineless, reprehensible and downright irresponsible ways of thinking ever imagined. And if allowed to prevail, either now or in the past, our way of life would not even be in existence. Lets allow evil to take root and just "give in" to it...becuase hey...its "not going away". So why fight it, right? People who think like this should be slapped silly. Or sat in a room with a hisotry book or two. One on a THIRD GRADE level would probably do the trick.

Hey, why not? Here in NYC, a white man who beat a black guy senseless is going down as a "hate crime." Nevermind the fact that the poor slob beaten was casing the neighborhood for cars to steal and admitted it.

The statement "I did not have sex with that woman........" has more relevance to the issue than the statement above.

Those "over the top" techniques like turning the A/C down and playing rap music loudly!!!! Up next at GTMO.......asking the person being interrogated for information without saying "please". OH.......THE HORROR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I do agree with Joey's other point, however.

The only thing "proven" is that there are certain groups where its OK to lump people together and others where its not, which is bull sh--.

Nope...never seen "priest=gay pedophile". Nope.....never seen "All Catholics are anti-gay". Nope.....never seen "all Christians are intolerant Red Stater boobs". NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICCCCCCCCCCCEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let me ask all of you this.....if Homosexuals dont use thier sexuality to define their themselves as you claim, then why is there a gay/lesbian/transgender club for everything from fly fishing to cycling?

Ah, but "some of your best friends are gay", right? Please. My point and question is that the Homosexual's lobby attempts to interject their sex lives into every other part of their lives goes far beyond their desire for marriage rights and why is that so? A simple observation and question. We ARE still allowed to observe and question things, right? Jeez, Darin....of all people to puke up the self-righteous knee-jerk bull sh--, Id expect you to be the LAST person to do it.

Given that a Homosexual cant even buy a Big Mac without prefacing his or her order with "Im gay...", I'd say Homosexuals are looking for something besides just being "accepted". They want more....not sure what it is.....but its something. Knee-jerk "Your a filthy bigot" accusations in 5-4-3-2.........