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FFS=diarrea of the keyboard. I keed, I keed....but seriously FFS, cut it down a bit! You lose us after the first paragraph. U lose lame brains like me even sooner.

"You haven't responded to the fact that under the privatized system worked the way it was supposed to work. " Who said that? Dick Jouron? And stop !@#$ing projecting things on to me. Stop saying "you probably THIS or you probably THAT". Stick to the topic of the debate.

Private security for the airlines worked the way it was supposed to? Youre kidding. Youve GOT to be kidding. Hate to drive another truck through your argument, but there was talk of making a Federal security system BEFORE 9/11 becuase the state of airline security under the stead of private firms subsidized by struggling airlines became so bad. So your "fact" about an effective private system is about as much of a "fact" as the exsistence of the tooth fairy. A quick Google on Argenbright yielded the following: http://www.time.com/time/archive/preview/0...1001252,00.html For a company hired to screen passengers at the nation's largest airports, Argenbright Security has proved unnervingly lax at screening its own employees. Last year, following an investigation at the Philadelphia airport, Argenbright pleaded guilty to criminal charges of falsifying employee backgrounds, which had led to the hiring of those whose records included drug possession and aggravated assault. The FAA imposed a probation, and Argenbright's then parent company, AHL, paid $1.6 million in penalties. http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/argenbr...ings101601.html Preliminary findings of the assessment have found that: Screeners at some airports had a prior criminal record that should have disqualified them from employment in security sensitive positions. For example, a screener at Seattle-Tacoma International Airport was removed from his post and had his secure area identification badge revoked after investigators learned he had been convicted on charges of being a felon in possession of a handgun. Investigators have also worked with the Immigration and Naturalization Service to determine whether employees who were foreign nationals had authorization to work in the U.S. INS detained seven screeners at Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport after finding they were illegally working in the U.S. An individual was arrested by OIG special agents at Washington Dulles International Airport on October 13 after he passed through a security checkpoint with a concealed pocketknife on his person. The individual was detained and was arraigned October 15 in U.S. District Court in Alexandria, VA on charged of attempting to board an aircraft with a concealed weapon. A preliminary hearing was set for October 23. Also at Dulles, 7 out of 20 screeners re-tested during a spot check at a security checkpoint by OIG were not able to pass the skills tests required as a condition of employment. To be employed as a screener, applicants must complete 12 hours of instruction, pass a written http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_..._15/ai_79344534 "Sieve" rather than "security" may be the more accurate description of the system. The term applies not just to the screening process, but to those doing the screening, many of whom were hired under fraudulent pretenses. Falsified background checks have enabled burglars, drug abusers, former prostitutes, and foreign nationals from countries known to harbor terrorists to become security screeners with unescorted access to airport "sterile" areas, according to Government documents detailing the illegal activities of a major security company. So there's your wonderful private security. Yeah..lets go back to THAT! And even if we did, you speak of the NEW private system being forced to become better and more efficient. Guess whose responsible for that? DING! The Feds...the FAA. Now...the TSA. I dont think I EVER said they were the solution to this mess. But they are....listen carefully.....BETTER than what there was. Its an improvement. And while there is work to be done to improve the new system, you dont throw out the whole thing and waste the money and time invested to set it up in the first place after a few years. But your solution to the problem is to shitcan the whole agency and go back to what was a horrible, terrible system to manage the task; and to do this for the sole reason to make us feel better becuase we prevented what you call "Big Government." Im sorry, thats just insane.

Geez...a bit cranky? So you want to recklessly privatize everything? I thought you were a Democrat....start acting like one! Oh, calm down, Scrappy. Youre sitting there yelling PRIVATIZE, but when I tell you last time private security was in place it was bad, you just say "SO??!!?" Thats your answer? Yeah, no sh--, Sherlock...privatized, more efficient systems would work better. Got a clue for ya....Govt. run, more efficient systems would work better too.Weve been down the private security road. It doesnt work, and even though CTM's point above is spot on, the airport security system in this country was in terrible shape pre 9/11 and had to be fixed. Im not a huge fan of the TSA, but the state of security today is better. There is no doubt. But there are clearly signs the TSA its falling under...into a govt. monolith. But Im not ready to toss it out completely and go back to the other way of doing things.

If thats true then why do we have publicly paid police officers instead of security guards?

Private airport security worked SOOOO well, didnt it? I understand Darren's point, but Argenbright and the other private security firms were a joke. They had women in burquas who could barely speak English checking bags at Dulles for $8/hour.

Throw Mike Shanahan into the mix of coaches who didnt do so hot first time around. Hows he doing these days, today aside? Jurons not too exicting, but I refuse to jump off the ledge.

PATHETIC is more like it.

Maybe FFS can school us on how this is racist. Im tired...........

Hate to say it, but weve gotten on players and coaches for their hair color, headwear, the way they walk, the way they speak, their choice of off season hobbies, where they live and everything in between. You think at some point skin color wouldnt come into play?

I'd give FFS three seconds before he reversed his love of affirmative action if HE was passed over for a promotion or job because of it. THREE SECONDS. And sorry, FFS...quotas, counting statistics and looking at color to determine job eligibility is NOT the American Way. Thats what we strive to do away with.

Glad SOMEONE got the joke!

How am I bringing up the PAST by listing the coaches RIGHT NOW? And how is Edwards move a "swap"? Thats a HIRE. NEWSFLASH: He had to be HIRED by a team in order for that "swap" to take place. Come on....the bottom line is tha there wont be hires THIS YEAR for minorities. One year does not make a trend. The last few years there have been good hires in this area. Were up to 20% of the coaching roster being AA. Thats good progress. If this trend goes on another year or two where ZERO minorities who are good candidates get passed over, then youll have a point. Until then, there is nothing to discuss.

You dont think the majority should be, but when I point out that its up to 20%, you say its not enough. So 20% is not enough and it doesnt have to be over 50%. So give us a number. Maybe 45.4535434332%

Henderson got canned YESTERDAY. Carthon got FOUR interviews, in this, his first year attepting to get a job. How many WHITE coaches have to get multiple interviews to get jobs?

But Art Shell would qualify as a "new hire". Youre amazing. And BTW...in order to "switch teams", hes got to be HIRED by the new team! So in your mind, to satisfy you the NFL coaching roster has to be comprised of at least 50% black coaches who at the time of hire, had no previous head coaching experience. Wheres the punchline? Theres GOT to be one.

So far, youve pulled up issues from three years gao (Lewis/Dungy) and TEN years ago (Shell) to make a point about the state of hiring in 2006. How about bringing up something from TODAY to make your point? Whats next, youre going to bring up Leon Seals to point out the poor state of the Bills' interior line?

NEW HIRES? Herman Edwards doesnt count? Keep trying.

Marvin Lewis Tony Dungy Lovie Smith Denny Green Romeo Crennel Herman Edwards There are now black coaches running close to 20% of the NFL teams. Nah....no progress in this area...but good shot at being "outraged." Art Shell.....ROTFL.

"Mike, Ive never seen you kick before and I dont even know what a football looks like, but youre a GREAT kicker!!!!" --Dave Letterman

The man's got YEARS of coaching experience, hes available and heas had some success. Now why would the Bilsl want to interview someone like THAT?? Hes not my favorite either, but sheesh...give it a rest. The Bilsl are going above and beyond to make sure all their bases are covered and they make a good decision. They are being very careful and covering all their bases. Guys....thats a GOOD thing.

Spending good money on good coaches. What a concept.

At least its not a headband.

Well, that just SEALS it for me. How's one of our pariahs, DAN HENNING doing right now??!!??

WFAN reports: Mike Francessa is still fat.