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Then there would be more uniform numbers across all boroughs, but there’s not. Manhattan is much more dense than the other 4, but its incidents are better. There are also wide variations within boroughs. Was NYT hitting DiBlasio when he was insisting that St Patrick’s still go on as late as March 11?

It doesn’t explain the follow-on spread in the counties. If all that was needed was somebody to catch a virus at work in NYC, bring it home and then spread like wildfire in the suburbs, then this would be repeated all over the country. But it’s not. This is why the health officials are perplexed, because there’s no discernible pattern about the spread nor the mortality. Why did Italy, Spain and 10 counties surrounding NYC get hammered with high death rates, but no one else did? Why did it spread fast in one country, but barely budged in a neighbor? If the theory that first NYC infection came from Europe, why is that mutation so lethal, and why didn’t it spread across more of Europe?

Probably close to zero effect. If that were the case you'd see fairly uniform numbers across the city. But the infection rates and mortality vary greatly by zip code. BTW, if people think that density is the main issue in NYC, that doesn't explain Nassau, Suffolk & Westchester counties.

Does this suffice?

I’m not familiar with that drug family. Please expand.

Which begs the question of which global health organization was the main clearing house of information about this virus? Asking for a close family member. Which drug family azithroycin belong to?

In his press conference today, DiBlasio added that if at any time the family is ready to claim the family member, they will be ready to return to the family.

Finally proof of Russian collusion.

Congratulations. You're the king of the idiotic things said today, and it's only 3PM.

2017 is the most recent available official data from NYC. Mortality 547 per 100K, life expectancy of 81.2. Contrary to popular belief, NYC is healthier than US average because it attracts many young people.

Or you know, look at the official statistics? In 2017, city wide mortality rate was 547 per 100K. That's less than 200/day.

About 2.8 million die in the US every year, which puts NYC at 70K, or less than 200/day.

Brix was referring to a national standard, not how NYC was calling the deaths. NYC officials admitted that there was a possible undercount and would update their methodology. The only counted the numbers that had confirmed infections. That's another reason that NYC deaths from the virus rose in the last day. You have previously said that the Wuhan numbers are "cooked." I don't know how you can cook numbers that are running up to 3x normal rates for the last two weeks in NYC area. That's why I'm differentiating between causation and correlation. The underlying conditions very likely are not the reason people succum to Wuhan. But having an underlying condition is a major factor in your ability to fight off the virus.

Which is how many flu deaths are also characterized. BTW, when Buffalo reports deaths from heavy snow storms, does it ignore people who have heart attacks when shoveling their driveways? No it was not, until yesterday.

Except the area hardest hit by the virus wasn't doing that, and was not reporting the undiagnosed deaths as Covid.

You admitted your mistake of 7K, but also doubted the 145 daily figure, which is closer to the accurate number. Again, daily deaths in NYC are running 3x-4x normalized numbers. The same thing happened in Lombardy and Spain. When the virus hits an area, it's devastating. You may choose to say people are panicking and distorting the numbers. But I say, that it' a cautionary tale to the unaffected areas.

That was not the case in NYC. If you died and weren't tested, you didn't count as a Covid death, which could have under-counted the daily total by up to 200. They will now test the deceased for the virus to give a proper count.

Again, the cause is clear, if not for Wuhan these patients wouldn't need intensive care and then die. These statistics are the same as used for flu and AIDS related deaths, where the virus isn't the primary agent of death. I find it odd that this is the line of reasoning people would use to stroke a conspiracy. Hospitalizations are real, ICU stays are real, deaths are real, and all are running at multiples of normal rates in the heavily affected areas. It's easy to underplay the risk if you happen to be outside the hot zone.

Any way you look at the numbers, NYC deaths are below 200/day. Tell me how 800/day are being cooked?

The statistic is "cause" of death. If not for Covid, the people would not be hospitalized and die at this time. The contributory factors exacerbate the mortality rate, but many of these people would have chugged along for quite a while with their underlying conditions in check.

You keep harping on this, and it's misplaced. It's the reverse application of correlation and causation. People love to use correlation to inflate the stats, when the causation is usually something else. In this case, Wuhan virus is the causation of the correlated factors. Without Wuhan, most of those deaths don't occur. Again, if you insist on focusing only on deaths that are only specifically Wuhan related, then please don't compare it to the flu, because the flu virus on its own does not kill a lot of people.

Listen ***** stick, if 7K died every day in NYC, there would be 2.5 million dead every year, and NYC would cease to exist within 5 years. On any given normal day, 145-150 die in NYC. That's the expected capacity of the morgues, funeral homes and cemeteries. Why are you bothering to argue stupid statistics, when the one thing you can't fake are real deaths, which are running 4 times normal rates in the tri-state area. I get it, you are lucky to live in an area that hasn't been affected. But ***** you for minimizing the pain that people are going through in the 5 boroughs.

No. The NYC crematoriums are backed up more than the funeral homes and cemeteries.

Correct. The downside of being very poor and dying from this thing. There's not much that a family can do, because the funeral homes don't have the capacity to quickly intern the dead, so the bodies are unclaimed and buried in Potters Field.

That's exactly what is happening. There's also a huge backlog at the funeral homes & cemeteries, with next available slots running into May. The video is real.