dave mcbride
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he did definitely abandon the raiders. i remember when it happened. it lit up xtra 690 for a week or so.
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Total bogus bulls#it.
http://www.nfl.com/ce/multi/0,3783,4893094,00.html]Fox Resume Part I
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"It could be that John still has something to prove after so many stops. Boise, ID, Ames, IA, Lawrence, KS. They were all on his résumé before he reached the NFL as a secondary coach for the Pittsburgh Steelers in 1989. Even then, he stayed on the move - San Diego from 1992-1993, Oakland from 1994-1995, and St. Louis in 1996 - before reaching the Giants as defensive coordinator."
"However, his success as a coordinator did not begin with the Giants. Before serving as a consultant to the Rams in 1996, he engineered the Oakland Raiders defense to a 10th-place finish in total defense in 1994 and 11th in 1995. At Oakland, he worked with future Giants head coach Jim Fassel.
Before joining Oakland, John was the secondary coach under Bobby Ross at San Diego in 1992 and 1993. John started his NFL coaching career with the Pittsburgh Steelers as defensive backs coach from 1989-1991, overseeing the top-rated pass defense in 1990.
John moved to the Steelers from the University of Pittsburgh, where he served as defensive coordinator and secondary coach for the Panthers from 1986 through 1988. In each of his three seasons, the Pittsburgh pass defense was statistically ranked among the top 10 in the nation.
Prior to his three-year stay with Pittsburgh, John made eight moves in as many seasons as he worked his way through the coaching ranks, including a foray into professional football with the Los Angeles Express of the USFL in 1985. Starting as a graduate assistant at his alma mater of San Diego State in 1978, John became an assistant at United States International University a year later and made a succession of moves to Boise State in 1980, Long Beach State in 1981, Utah in 1982, Kansas in 1983, and Iowa State in 1984."
The guy has moved around, but to say he hurt Al Davis' feelings and by extension - Ralph's is ridiculous. Maybe you could say Fox reminded him of Lou Saban - maybe. But that's a horse of a different color. Besides, if TD was such a strong leader and President of the organization, if he had a pair he would have hired Fox - IF Fox was his guy. He obviously wasn't - for whatever reason.
take it easy, man!! like i said, it was a *rumor*, and i also said in a subsequent post that people should feel free to discount it. as for wilson, i do think that regardless of how much power he delegated to donohoe, he always was involved in the coaching choice and his seal of approval was necessary. as for davis, ralph is friends with him. davis does (or did -- i have no idea if he has maintained the grudge) actually hate fox. whether that was a determining factor i don't know. in 2001, i don't think that fox was any more of a hot commodity than williams. both ran good defenses, obviously.
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They could block well and actually find a seam downfield to catch the ball for big gains. Some could even score Touchdowns. I seem to remember the Bills using one, many years ago.
A rumor is that our HC who just quit was a TE for 9 years in the NFL. Yet I never saw one block or being used this past season. 3 stooges named Campbell, Euhus and Nuefeld had TE next to their name but never did a thing. I guess our ex-coach was dumber than I thought.
These playoff coaches seem to have some good TE's.
We should go shopping and get one or two of those. They seem to help teams win.
What this strange thing you call TE?
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i feel bad about what i'm about to say given my post, but i simply can't remember. so feel free to discount it. i did see a reference to it in at least one place and i think two places after fox had had success with the panthers.
fox was the defensive coordinator (i'm fairly certain) in oakland in the mid-90s, and while there he simply quit because he couldn't deal with the constant interference and poisonous situation. it happened before gruden arrived.
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joe - it has been rumored (somewhat credibly, in my opinion) that ralph put the kibosh on fox because he quit on al davis. ralph is one of davis' only buds in the league, and davis has it in for fox because fox flat out quit on him. of course, i can't blame fox for leaving that crazy situation, and i wouldn't want to work for count chocula either.
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there was a blatant 35 yard pass interference in the second quarter on randle el that wasn't called - it would have put the steelers in the red zone. as it was, they had to punt. it was a badly officiated game, but the steelers were more jobbed than the colts. the 4th and 1 call was bad, but it really had no bearing on the game - the colts ended up having enough time anyway.
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I know Cowher is really part of Schottenhiemer's tree, but when you look at Cowher's coaching tree it's not very impressive.
Chan Gailey- Moderately succesful in Dallas.
Mularkey- We know enough about him.
Dick Lebeau- Yeah I know Cinci was a tough place to win.
Dom Capers- had some early success in Carolina and a good DC, but hasn't done much lately.
Haslett- We have talked enough about him lately.
Cowher's coordinators haven't made great head coaches and it is for this reason I do not want Haslett. I am getting sick of football people associated with Pittsburgh and it is time to look someplace else.
you're forgetting marvin lewis.
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From the start, TD erected a wall in front of the local guys in favor of feeding his ESPN cronies. His rambling tirade against the local media after GW's firing was a prime example of his thin-skinned demeanor. It's still as puzzling now as it was back then.
I do wonder if he had built a better rapport with the Sullivans & Roths, that he would still have a job.
one other thing tied to this -- pasquarelli especially but espn in general were never fed much by butler, and pasquarelli in turn has never given praise to butler and smith. more to the point, when john butler died, i followed pasquarelli, and he never wrote one word about it. not *one* word about a well respected and established guy who died way too early, and this is from a guy who loves to put himself forth as a writer who writes about "good football men."
ron hill is another guy pasquarelli is always blowing up. why? because hill is a good source.
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It is interesting to see how the regime change is playing out in the media. National media is shocked, local media is doing cartwheels.
From the start, TD erected a wall in front of the local guys in favor of feeding his ESPN cronies. His rambling tirade against the local media after GW's firing was a prime example of his thin-skinned demeanor. It's still as puzzling now as it was back then.
I do wonder if he had built a better rapport with the Sullivans & Roths, that he would still have a job.
i've been thinking the same thing this week. as far as i can tell, he never gave *anything* to the locals. not even felser. obviously, that was not wise, and that alone makes me wonder about his judgement.
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did anyone read gg's post? he suggested that mort made a deliberate slip by saying INpatient (as opposed to IMpatient).
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this is a really good thread! just throwing that in ...
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i do think it was a screw-up, but given how it has played out it won't be a crippling one. anyway, i'm glad wilson quickly slammed that little pandora's box shut.
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Distractions, Distractions,,,Stillers win...
another one of polian's high character guys ...
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his bid to become coach was pretty ugly. it struck me as both delusional and duplicitous. i was a big supporter of marv becoming gm, and still am highly optimistic. that said, he really has looked bad early on. here's hoping he regains his senses ASAFP and begins focusing on hiring the right coach.
anyway, i'm surprised that this isn't the talk of the board today.
and how the hell is sean payton a candidate??
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The Patriots won all 10 of their last playoff games. Not Brady. In fact, once again he throws a pick in the endzone during a critical part of the game...a tide-turning part of the game...and yet there you are, dawgg, down on your knees trying to accuse me of sucking off AKC when no one can understand what you're saying because your mouth is full of Bradylove.
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Seriously. Everything you've accused Brady of came incredibly true last night.
I know a lot of people like to suck Brady off and say how they'd give their right arm to have Brady as our QB, but you have held true to your convictions and in the end, no one was more right about Brady and his "legendary playmakeability" as you have been this year.
Good call.
um, he had one off road game against a 13-3 team coming off of a bye and featuring the best cornerback in the league. you can't hold him to the standard of having to win the super bowl every year to legitimize his greatness ...
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I'm not going there in this thread...
Like I said, I would like someone to make a reasonable case why Cowher isn't a HoF caliber coach especially if you contrast his qualifications with Marv's. I found it interesting that this article from Pitt. was so definitive about him NOT being worthy (despite 130 wins and averaging 10 wins per season, 8 division titles, 1 SB appearance... all with one of the most frugal owners in the league).
I suppose my lack of ball washing for Marv means I will forever receive knee-jerk responses from people, but I guess I'll have to deal with it.
re cowher, why are we even talking about this? he's only 48 and has a long career in front of him. he's not retiring from the nfl any time soon. who knows what will happen in the next 10 years.
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3) He spoke with Gregg Williams yesterday (b/c both he and Williams are in Seattle) and they talked about the Bills and GW said it is a tough place to work b/c the phone will ring daily and it is Ralph who wants to know how the team is doing.
Kind of sour grapes I think about GW. The guy who dismantled the Bills defense when he came in because he knew better how to do it. Wow, the audacity of an owner to know how his football team is doing. Nice, Gregg. Go fail in Washington too. Make fun of the guy who preceded you like Wade--even though Wade was a better coach.
except that was the same criticism of ralph leveled by butler, aj smith, and in a backhanded way, wade. ralph is a meddler -- always has been, always will be. he's not an easy guy to work for.
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Have they interviewed a minority candidate yet? No. So it is hypothetical. Marv will not just become head coach, that does not skirt the rules on interviewing.
I think once again in this sound bite, instant 24 news period people and press are overacting. The word "if" does not mean may or may not as some seem to think it does.
you may be right, but they may have in fact interviewed gray. his name has come up.
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"We have already told some coaches that we want to retain them and they're good with it," Levy said. "If we talk to another coaching candidate, we'll tell them that we've made this commitment (to the assistants) before we go through the interviewing process."
And in that remark, again, Levy sent up warning flares by saying "if" the Bills talk to other candidates.
http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/p...331/1007/SPORTS
OK, well, this is kick in the balls part two....
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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screw the national media! they've got the story all wrong so far, as far as i'm concerned.