dave mcbride
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2298511
Indications are that, after the Capers interview, the Bills will deliberate over the men with whom they have met, and perhaps reach a decision by the weekend. Buffalo is one of just three teams remaining without a head coach.
i'm all for interviewing a lot of candidates, but giving one to another robotic retread with no discernible personality is a joke. you think 36-49 is bad; how about 49-81 and coming off a 2-14 season in which they were supposed to be competitive?
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i've asked about this before, but never received a solid confirmation that this is how it actually works when someone takes another head coaching job. are there links?
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I voted no on your poll. Sure, I'd be rooting for the Bills to succeed, and for DJ to surprise me with competence, but I'd begin with faint hope. I rolled my eyes in amazement when Jauron landed his first HC gig back in 1999. There was a giant, leaguewide, "duuuuh?!" after the announcement.
There was nothing remarkable about the 95 - 98 Jaguars defense to warrant DJ getting a job offer. Except for Chicago, there were no reports of other teams even bringing Jauron in for an interview. But heck, that was probably true for at least 3 of the 5 guys Chicago brought in that January to interview (Sherm Lewis, Joe Pendry, Dave McGinnis, Dick Jauron, Gunther Cunngingham). McCaskey was strictly considering second-teir guys.
And Jauron still lost to McGinnis. There was that big hullaballoo when McGinness got steamed that they would announce him as head coach before contract terms were agreed upon. He walked away and Jauron was their second choice.
I am hoping for April or Sherman.
i forgot about that whole debacle in chicago! thanks.
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In the AFC, more HCs come from the defensive side of the ball, period. Last season, there were only 5 of 16 HCs with offensive backgrounds. Of those 5, only 2 had success recently (Vermeil and Shanahan), for a 40% rate.
Of the 11 HCs with a defensive background, however, the "recent success" rate is 8-3, or 73%. One could also argue that 2 of the 3 "question marks" will be successes (Crennel certainly has an upside, and Fisher has experienced success in the past).
I define "recent success" as a playoff berth in 2004 or 2005.
Successes:
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Belechick -- D
Cowher -- D
Lewis -- D
Dungy -- D
Del Rio -- D
Shanahan -- O
Schottenheimer -- D
Vermeil -- O
Saban -- D
Edwards -- D
Failures/Question Marks:
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Mularkey -- O
Fisher -- D
Crennel -- D
Turner -- O
Capers -- D
Billick -- O (he DID win a SB, but certainly not because of the offense)
In the NFC, a different picture emerges. 7 of the 9 offensive HCs (78%) have enjoyed recent success. However, 5 of 7 defensive HCs (71%) were also successful.
Successes:
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Reid -- O
Holmgren -- O
Coughlin -- D
Gibbs -- O
Parcells -- D
Tice -- O
Smith -- D
Gruden -- O
Mora -- D
Fox -- D
Martz -- O
Sherman -- O
Failures/Question Marks:
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Green -- O
Nolan -- D
Mariucci -- O
Haslett -- D
Overall, 18 of the 32 HCs last season were defensive oriented, and have a recent success rate of 72%. The 14 offensive oriented HCs have a success rate of 64%.
Does this mean anything? The AFC has recently been the dominant conference, and it is heavily defense-oriented. Should Jauron therefore be the pick?
Anyway, I found your point interesting so I took a few minutes to compile this info.
does vermeil really come from the offensive side of the ball?? he's been a head coach and head coach only going back over 30 years to his ucla days.
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from kffl:
Jets | Henderson will not be retained
Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:34:25 -0800
Randy Lange, of the Bergen Record, reports New York Jets defensive coordinator Donnie Henderson will not be retained by the team. Henderson had two years remaining on a three-year extension he signed last year.
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but there were *real* savings (as in 2005 salary not paid) to be had. we go on and on about the salary cap, but the cap is just a representation of real money, not the thing itself. cutting bledsoe kept millions of dollars in wilson's pocket.
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Exactly! Mularkey knew that. He didn't really feel comfortable going into a season with a QB with no experience. TD sold MM on it, much the way he did many here.
Mularkey would have liked to keep Bledsoe around another year, to be sure Losman was ready to assume a starting job, before cutting ties. I am not saying he expected Losman to outperform Bledsoe (although many here thought he could, with one arm tied around his back), but he wanted some assurance that if Losman was not ready, his career was tied to him. Kelly Holcomb was signed to appease Mularkey. Mularkey liked Holcomb.
Many here assumed that if they were making that kind of committment to Losman, they must have believed he had a realistic shot at being successful. TD belived that more than Mularkey did. He only baught what TD was selling, because he was assured he wouldn't be fired if it blew up in their face. One thing neither guy figured on, was that everything would blow up in their face (ie: the defense would not perform at anything close to the level it did the previous two years), and TD would get the ax...as it turned out, the QB sitution was far from the only issue that the 2005 Bills, and their coach, faced.
this makes a lot of sense, and without any real knowledge of the situation, was basically what i suspected given the outward signs.
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i've gotta say, why "meathead"? that's just ripping off florio's name for another TE head coach, tice. and florio ripped off himself -- very unoriginally, i might add -- to name mularkey "meathead" as well.
as for the origins of the term "meathead", it came from archie bunker, who used it to refer to his overly educated and intellectual (in his view) son in law.
i'm sorry to be so picky.
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do you really think he tried more than butler? butler drafted ruben in the top half of the first round, played a large part in drafting fina in the first round, and drafted a few guys in the third (louchiey, hicks). he also drafted dusty ziegler and signed joe panos to a big contract (panos was actually, genuinely good for philly before he got hurt in buffalo). did he succeed? no, but he certainly *tried* as hard as donohoe, who had spent one first rounder and one third rounder on the o-line. the guys he brought were late round guys who came cheap (i'm including teague and villarrial in this group).
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my in-laws in buffalo are big bills fans, but they don't troll the net or listen to talk radio. this is how they find out about stuff for the first time, and i'm sure there are a few hundred thousand western new yorkers just like them.
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Once upon a time, a decade or two ago, ESPN was just starting. They hired a few guys named Chris Berman and Dan Patrick and Keith Olberman, who once upon a time were fairly humorous in a smartalecky kind of way. It was a little new (for sports), a little goofy, and it worked great. ESPN and SportsCenter became a phenomenon.
Unfortunately, Berman and Patrick and Olberman ruined sports forever by being sporadically mildly amusing.
Now, everyone on SportsCenter tries to be funny, like them, but they are not like them, and are not funny, and sound like complete morons.
And the same thing has happened to our lovable TSW.
There were and are a couple witty, mildly amusing old timers (and, admittedly, a couple of new timers) that once upon a time made TSW a great place for wisecracks and Pythonesque abuse, and they, unfortuntely, because they were funny, made this place nearly unbearable. Now, every tard on the coaster tries to be funny.
Except you tards forgot one thing. You're not funny. You're Stuart Scott.
So remember. If you're trying to be funny, make sure you're funny.
(To those here who are actually funny, carry on.)
but ... stuart scott is insufferable!!! talk about annoying smart alecks.
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I understand but you're listing the 1% who may be exceptions to the rule. The other 99 % do NOT succeed unless they surround themselves with superior talent in asst. coaches and players.
The pending Bills hire is not Lombardi and to say it's great or horrible, either way, is foolish.
apropos of nothing, really, the season in which marv had the best assistant talent -- dan henning on offense and wade phillips on defense -- was the year the team was most inept. the talent was the problem, obviously.
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I think you could put in Shanahan, Holmgren, Walsh, perhaps Vermiel (on the offense)...
Maybe you could argue Parcells, but he DOES have mucho input and to me that seems the natural way to go. If not, why not have Steve Jobs as your HC? If you have other football men running the show, then what is the need for a top coordinator, etc.. to assume a HC position when in fact you are advocating removing the HC from the essential workflow that needs to take place in order to prepare for your opponent?
put in gibbs too (offense).
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the game against the Browns was absolutely nuts............i lost a lot of money on it..............they got a touchdown, onside kick, touchdown, onside kick touchdown......what are the odds...........21 points in the last 2 minutes or something crazy......... thats not one onside kick recoverd...but 2 within the last couple minutes of the game
i remember that game. courtney brown looked like he was going to be one of the greatest defensive ends ever. he got hurt (again) the following week, as i recall.
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He was there from 1995-1998.
defensive rankings:
1995 - 28th overall (they were an expansion team)
1996 - 3rd overall (they beat the bills in the playoffs that year and shut down the bills after the first quarter)
1997 - 7th overall; 3rd in points (they crushed the bills in buffalo that year)
1998 - 11th overall - they played a very close, low scoring game against buffalo that year and lost in the last seconds when flutie ran it in.
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In one sentence - that is EXACTLY what I mean and highlights my issues with Marv.
I guess I shouldn't rag on Levy for being who he is, just like I don't rag on Parrish for being who he is. They can't help it. They are who they are and they are doing the best that can given their limited abilities. I was just always resentful that our opponents in the big game had a head coach providing added value and direction that allowed them to beat us.
My position is that if we had a head coach that was on par with our opponents, one who could provide that added value, that direction, that knowledge of a weakness we could exploit, that we would have won those big games.
Marv was a wonderful head cheerleader that made everyone feel warm and fuzzy after the SB losses. Well, in my book, that is like the admiring the orphan who pulls himself together after he killed his parents...
scott - do you think don shula was a good coach?
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if this is to be believed, then the bills should think about trading down or moving up to land the elite player (ferguson). i would probably risk moving up.
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well the bills went 9-7 last year with a far more talented offense than the 2001 bears and a defense that surpassed that bears team in every statistical category, including turnovers. and let's not forget special teams last year. plus the bills schedule was easy too. 13-3 is 13-3 -- it ain't easy to do.
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why? he was a very good offensive coordinator for the steelers.