dave mcbride
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you really wonder how much he's actually in the loop. he's allegedly great friends with haslett, but haslett didn't even get a sniff. he can't leave the bills except to resign, which may be forcing him to stay.
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I like how everyone casually ignores the rest of the points in regards to the talent on this team and focuses on their subjective opinion that Evans has "great" hands. Independent talent evaluators disagree and many others are still in wait and see mode with Evans. However, you have now anointed him with the best set of hands in Bills history. Excellent.
i said "since bob chandler." who are these "independent evaluators" anyway? guys who judged him coming out of college? i can honestly say that i've yet to meet one knowledgeable bills fan who doesn't think he has sensational hands.
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stop right there. you have no idea what you're talking about. evans has probably the best hands of any bills receiver since bob chandler -- better than butler's, and better than reed's. watch some games instead of reading scouting reports ...
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Quit smoking your crack pipe.........Sherman had better record than JAuron and was even part of Ron Wolf's scouting department. This is just like taking Williams and Mularkey over John Fox and Charlie Weiss........The records speak for themselves. There's a lot of great coaches that didn't go to Yale, such as bill Belicheck and John Fox to name a few. Most people that went to Yale are working on Wall street!!!!!!
quote=Casey D,Jan 23 2006, 07:21 AM]
i agree with your post, but i assure you that in terms of status and academic prestige as an undergraduate institution, wesleyan (belichick's alma mater) is pretty much the equal of yale.
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While watching the Steelers game I saw a team who loves its city.
A Team who loves thier owner. A owner who is loves his coach.
A organization who has seen consistnt success in the NFL.
And as a Bills fan, I have no faith in management. Any decent GM the Bills have had has been run out of town (where they still experienced success).
A team who plays for the name on the back of the Jersy instead of the city or fans they represent.
A team who is more content with saving $$ and filling seats instead of putting the best product on the field.
I'm convinced the Bills of the 90's got lucky. Levy was a lucky hire. Polian and Butler were great GM's who happen to use Buffalo to launch thier career.
Fact is: I doubt Buffalo will ever be a serious contender in the NFL. The people in charge are not as commited to winning like the Rooney's. Just not as classy.
As a fan, I just want to experince the joy of watching a playoff game that means something to me. With Jauron as HC, I doubt I'll get that chance anytime soon
Congrats to the Steelers- especially to thier fans. You do not know or even realize how lucky you have it.
you do realize, you know, that the logic behind your post is based entirely on your perception of the bills in the donohoe era? just checking.
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He's our guy now, so you have to give him a chance. I'll dig him if we win and hate him if we lose. I am not all that happy with it now, but if he brings in Caldwell to run the O and Capers or someone with a lot of credentials to run the D I won't be too displeased. The OC hire here could be critical.
That said, where are all your stats showing how terrible the Bears and Lions defense has been under his tutelage?
i'll have you know, dog, that i posted the very impressive defensive stats of jax between 1995 and 1998 slightly less than a week ago. i'll admit that on the surface that sherman looked like the better coach to me, but what do i know?? i'll just hope for the best and look forward to next year.
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why is this being analyzed??
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It can always be worse. Always.
I for one...don't mind Jauron. Really, I just don't care much. It's Jamuary; the Bills' head coach isn't a concern for me for another seven months or so...and even then, I have family, friends, work, hobbies...basically, a full and satisfying enough life that I won't live or die by who coaches the Bills.
yep - couldn't have said it beter myself.
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i don't know if this is common knowledge but it was news to me. According to a family member who is friends with someone who is a family friend of our former GM - TD is saying that Levy has been working for the Bills since November and has been making personnel decisions. He referred to Levy as a tyrant and that was reason MM decided to resign.
In the end Levy called TD into his office and told him that it would be in his best interest to resign. TD refused and initially told him that he would have to fire him.
As far as credibility issues - i have known of the TD family friend for several years and my relative are both credible sources to me.
Secondly there is another story which may be partially confirmed to bolster the source's credibility.
I had sent a copy of WGR's wickedly funny Teddy Bruschi parody that was made following the ESPN game where Bruschi came back from his stroke to my relative who then forwarded it to TD's family friend who then in turn forwarded it to TD.
TD thought it was extremely funny and played it for the entire team following the Sunday night game. It should be fairly easy enough to confirm whether or not the GR bit was played for the team and therefore validate at least a portion of my story.
whatever. he was a control freak himself, so it's sort of like the pot calling the kettle black if true. anyway, he didn't get it done in half a decade. he has no reason to complain about anything.
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he may turn out to be a great coach for the bills -- no one knows at this point. he's clearly smart, and he's run good defenses in the past. let's give him a chance -- the worst thing to do is to B word and moan until september and revel in your own negativity. that's pathetic.
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Your timeline here is botched. ML failing to emphatically deny he was a candidate to replace MM as head coach, immediately after RW had just emphatically denied the same, cannot possibly have caused the purely speculated and so-called "toxic environment" that further caused MM to decide to quit in the days before that very press conference.
Actually, Marv cleared up any confusion with the media very quickly -- that he wasn't going to be HC of the Buffalo Bills. Much ado about nothing.
disagree. completely. and i was (and still am) a huge supporter of marv as gm. you simply can't explain that episode away that easily.
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BUt, we're not talking about middle managers at some dot com.
How many other head coaches in the NFL have walked away from their jobs?
Belichick? Not really, he already had the Patriots job lined up.
NFL teams have plenty of front office shake-ups and coaching shake-ups and it is simply not true that one always goes hand in hand with the other.
If Mularkey thinks he has a better upwards career path in the coaching profession as the QB coach in Atlanta than actually being an NFL head coach (which is the top job for a coach, btw -- his aspirations to be an owner notwithstanding
) are, well, a little bit tortured in their logic.no, gg is not talking about "middle managers at some dot com." he's talking about what happens in corporate america and in particular the lower half of manhattan every day, where people are making more than mularkey (and trust me, gg actually knows what he's talking about in this regard).
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once a quitter, always a quitter? have you ever quit a job before because you didn't like the job anymore and/or didn't have any faith in the organization you worked for? also, factor in that he knew he'd land a good job somewhere else. even if you haven't, you probably know that most people have and that it's not considered a bad thing. far from it, in fact -- most people consider it mentally healthy.
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Everyone seems to be agog over Mike Sherman, based on his past track record, and seem to be mystified that Dick Jauron is even a consideration. I think it is important to consider that stark differences in talent the two had to work with. While Dick Jauron was making do with the Jim Miller's and Anthony Thomas' of the world, Mike Sherman had one of the greatest QB's in NFL history, some solid WR's, and an outstanding RB in Ahman Green.
Its hard to judge the quality of a coach who is the beneficiary of a load of talent assembled by his predecessor. Consider, for example, the run George Seifert had after taking over Bill Walsh's talent-stocked 49ers:
1996 12-4-0 2nd -- NFC West 1-1 - Lost Divisional Playoffs
1995 11-5-0 1st -- NFC West 0-1 - Lost Divisional Playoffs
1994 13-3-0 1st -- NFC West 3-0 - Won Superbowl
1993 10-6-0 1st -- NFC West 1-1 - Lost Conference Championship
1992 14-2-0 1st -- NFC West 1-1 - Lost Conference Championship
1991 10-6-0 T2nd -- NFC West
1990 14-2-0 1st -- NFC West 1-1 - Lost Conference Championship
1989 14-2-0 1st -- NFC West 3-0 - Won Superbowl
That's about as solid of a coaching record as you could ever possibly hope for. And yet, George Seifert moved on to Carolina and was positively abysmal - in three years he *never* had a winning season, and he ended his tenure with a jaw-dropping 15 game losing streak in a 1-15 season. (And you think that *we* were bid this year!)
So, I'm just advising people to keep a little bit of persepctive, and stop judging NFL Coaching candidates solely by prior wins and losses.
JDG
if we're going to go down this road, wyche may be a better comparison. cincy was good for a long time under him, and he crashed and burned in 1991 with a 3-13 record. he was fired, and quickly landed with the bucs, where he oversaw many bad teams and had a young 1st round qb with promise (dilfer).
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thought experiment here. when healthy (an issue, of course), charles woodson is certainly as good as clements. he will probably be cheaper too. is it worth it to go after him? another player like him who comes to mind who got hurt a lot, went to another team, and is now excelling is shawn springs, who has been lights out for the skins the past two seasons.
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1998 Denver Broncos defense: Eighth in the NFL in scoring defense. Allowed 32 points TOTAL in three playoff games. #3 in the NFL in rushing yardage allowed.
1997 Denver Broncos defense: Seventh overall in the NFL in scoring defense. Fourth overall in total yards allowed. Sixteenth in the NFL in rushing yardage allowed. Fifth in the NFL in passing yards allowed.
Yeah, they sucked.
DV spent KC's cap money on their OLine, not their defense. Whoopie.
Mostly because Martz played in the weakest division in the weakest conference in football. Try and remember how good the Rams looked the last time they came to Buffalo and got their asses absolutely handed to them. Then remember that THAT season they actually made the playoffs and WON THEIR DIVISION. They'd have finished about 4-12 in the AFC East.
It's funny that you can't see Martz the same way - because that's exactly what he is. He is a good offensive mind (as long as you don't mind your QB getting hit at least a dozen times a game by an unblocked defender). Hiring him also means losing Bobby April because there is no way he'd ever work for him again. Are you really willing to toss aside the single consistant bright spot on the staff for the last two years for Mike Martz?
What's the difference? Oh, how about Martz is an arrogant prick who let's that get in the way of winning. The ONLY reason the Patriots beat the Rams in the SB was because Martz wouldn't take what Belichick was giving him. Do you honestly think that zoo offense would work at Rich in December with nowhere near the OLine talent required? Losman's career would be over before it started. There's a reason Green, Warner, Bulger, Martin, and Fitzpatrick have all missed time playing QB with Martz coaching them.
I'll believe Mike Martz can beat Bill Belichick in a game when he actually does it.
i agree with most of what you say here darin (although i do think martz's success was a result of more than just the division he played in), but you're wrong about one thing: martz beat belichick in NE in 2001, 24-17 (in week 10, after the pats had actually evolved into being a really good team).
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no, he quit because he didn't want to work here. he'll certainly find another good job (in fact, he already has at least one offer). ever quit a job before because you couldn't take it anymore? if you have, you'll clearly understand what he did.
i admire mularkey for what he did. for those calling him "quitter", i advise you to listen to the immortal johnny paycheck's "take this job and shove it." i suspect that 99% of the people here would have done the same damn thing if they were in his shoes and had his options.
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If the owner of the Redskins was the owner of the Bills; would the Bills be floundering helplessly ?
I don't think so.
Snyder is like George Steinbrenner in some ways. He wants to win now and keep winning.
The NFL salary cap makes the playing field level to an extent, but the coaching gap is growing because an owner like Snyder is not afraid to pay for coaching talent. Wilson seems to be most concerned about getting coaches who will work cheaply. As we have seen, good coaching can make a difference.
Snyder has Williams as DC and Saunders as OC and Gibbs as head coach. All three have had success. I suspect that the Redskins progress toward success will be far greater in the next few years than the Bills.
Sadly, the Bills are wasting time interviewing proven losers like Dom Capers. Ugh!
Truthfully, I wish the Bills owner was a guy like Dan Snyder.
Who agrees with me?
If you hate Snyder why is he so bad?
god, i knew this would happen. the twerp finally gets lucky with one stinkin' 10-6 season and all of a sudden he's a great owner and a winner.
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no, it should be about #2 on the list. the old (1960s) uniforms look great. the new ones are hideous. i don't want to look at them any more. if they lose with the throwbacks, at least they'll lose in style.
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That's where we differ. I don't think that Fisher had done nothing in Buffalo, and looked good as a situational pass rusher in '01. Whether it was realistic to expect that he would blossom into a very good DE within 5 years is not as big of a question as whether he was a better player in 2002 than Grant Irons & Kendrick Office.
The only true "off-year" that he had was 2002, and it's tough to judge on that year, as he was signed by Rams after training camp. In '03, even as a backup his stats were better than Denney, Kelsay, Irons, & Ahanatou.
grant irons and kendrick office: i had succesfully blocked those names from my mind until now. thanks a lot.
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the bills players should be held responsible, not the coaches. to paraphrase dan henning after his departure following the 1997 season, you can't make silk from a sow's ear.
"System's don't win, players do."
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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when williams came here, he imposed a system and it failed. the defense became much better when they obtained the right players.
as for the skins, what's this about them not having talent? shawn springs has been of the best cornerbacks in the league the last 2 seasons, and is playing like he did before the hamstring problems in seattle. he's a surefire elite player. there are a lot of other very good players on that defense as well.