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Here's the thing about Parrish I think is getting lost in all the Post-Draft overanalysis...
I don't really believe this Pick was simply about Roscoe and his obvious attributes, or limitations for that matter...This Pick was about Moulds, Evans, Reed, AND Parrish...It was certainly a ST's Pick also...But most importantly (I think) this Pick was about creating Match-Up Nightmares for opposing Defenses...The Bills will look for, and hopefully find, ways to get RP off the line quick and Matched up with a S, Nickle/Dime Back, or any other Defender who can't Run with him...Let Parrish break a couple Long one's and the Field opens up for Moulds, Evans, the TE's...and now you've got a potent Passing Game behind Willis...
Anyway, I know it drive some folks crazy when a Team Drafts a Player who will do little more than fill a supporting Role for a few Years...or maybe even his whole Career...But when Plans like this work, it's all good...
Now we just have to wait and see I guess...
good point - i love the pick for this reason. it diversifies the passing offense and allows for more creativity. the bills can go big and strong - moulds, mcgahee, campbell -- or superfast -- parish, evans -- on pretty much any play. if you're benchmark is whether parrish makes 65-70 receptions, you're going to be disappointed. but if your benchmark is a diversified, more dangerous overall offense in which parrish catches 35 balls and makes some great plays, then you'll be happy. i count myself among the latter.
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No agenda. Let's wait until they are all on the field. No reason to make sh-- up just to feel better about the Losman pick , is all I said.
As far as it goes, I hope he is wrong. I really do. I am a Bills fan first and foremost, above everything else.
But he sure the !@#$ was right on Travis wasn't he?
what did he say re henry?
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Assuming Travis is gone, the A-Train would make a great back-up for McGahee. I get to see the Bears play a lot. Thomas is a tough runner, not unlike Travis, his worst attribute is getting banged up a lot. He is not an elite running back, but would be a more than servicable back-up. Since losing his starting job, he has played very well in the back-up position, and has made the most of his few opportunities. That is the kind of guy we need, not unlike the immortal Kenny Davis!
Forgive me, I am here at work, and haven't been able to check in much today. Is there rumour that the Bills are interested in Thomas?
yeah, he's visiting the bills today. it's on the team site.
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I'm not arguing that at all. If A train has something left in the tank, I would like him as our back-up considering who else is available, although I would take Th over him. I like him as a player, if he's healthy, which I am concerned about. I was only responding to the post that their stats were similar, which to me they clearly aren't. A Train is more limited than Travis is as far as I am concerned. He does (or did) one thing very well, run downhill, and he may not be able to do that anymore. Last year he looked extremely slow and sluggish whenever I saw him.
dog, they clearly aren't?? 3.9 ypc and 3300 yards v. 4.0 ypc and 3800 yards. that's in the same time frame, and they're pretty damn close. moreover, those bears teams haven't had any weapons whatsoever either. henry is a better back - no doubt about it. but with regard to the role we're talking about - backup rb - it's pretty much 6 of one, half dozen of another.
also, forget the number of receptions, because you and i both know that henry is a subpar receiving back. it's irrelevant to the issue at hand. tds are overrated too, a function of a player's team more than anything else.
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i'm breaking the rules, but i can't name just one, so i'll name my top 40 (i guess i could stick them all in an ipod). i love them all about equally, and each in its own way. i'm sure i'm leaving some equally worthy records off this list:
bob dylan - highway 61 revisited
the new york dolls
the anthology of american folk music
the best of george jones
stones - exile on main street
the clash
roxy music - country life
chuck berry - from st. louis to liverpool
Loretta Lynn boxed set (do these count?)
nirvana - nevermind
tom waits - raindogs
the mekons - rock 'n' roll
led zeppelin IV
nick lowe - pure pop for now people
richard and linda thompson - i want to see the bright lights tonight
jimmie rodgers - recordings, 1927-33
drive by truckers - decoration day
yeah yeah yeahs (ep)
stooges - funhouse
dylan/the band - the basement tapes
bo diddley box set
flying burrito brothers - the gilded palace of sin
television - marquee moon
fats domino - greatest hits
the band
beck - odelay
the heartbreakers - L.A.M.F.
velvet underground - white light/white heat
johnny thunders - So Alone
al green - call me
white stripes - white blood cells
lazy cowgirls - ragged soul
the vibrators - pure mania
the buddy holly collection
the who sell out (expanded version)
mott the hoople - mott
x - wild gift
ramones leave home
aretha franklin - aretha's gold
wide right - sleeping on the couch (my wife's new record -- gotta support the family)
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read my note again. i said henry was the better starter. as to who better fills the *backup* role, it's probably a wash. they're simply not that different when it comes to guys coming off the bench for spot duty.
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http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/ThomAn01.htm
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/HenrTr00.htm
not too different, as it so happens. henry is the better starting running back, but as to who is a better backup, it's probably a wash.
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This thread has really gotten me to thinking when will I be so pissed at TD that I want him gone. He has done many good things for us and some bad all of which are debated above. Please remember that he is also President, so in reality, I don't think what we the fans think about TD matters one whit to Wilson.
I do not expect to make the playoffs this year. I think that will be too difficult with a 1st year starter (I know the whole Big Ben scenario from last year, so I know its not impossible, its just improbable). So unless this team drops back to 3-13 or 2-14 or just something horrendous like that, I would give this year a pass. But looking ahead to 2006, I not only expect to make the playoffs, but I fully expect to be a competitor for the SB. That means either a Division title or a very close record to whoever wins the AFC East. And if we go in as a Wild Card, a decisive win in that game.
With one year with JP starting and if the defense still remains among the best (and it should), this team will have absolutely no excuse in 2006.
Basically, I'm giving TD a pass this year. The coaching staff looks like it is going to be a good one. We have the players, the only question is at the most important position on the team. Since we did not do a whole lot with the OLine, I'm putting all blame on the OLine on the coaches, its obvious they feel we have the talent to put together a decent Line.
I think this year we start out slow as JP and the OLine get up to speed, 3-5 in the beginning, but finish strong at 6-2 to finish up with a 9-7 record, missing the playoffs.
your expectations and standards are too low. the best comparison is the jets with pennington, who went to the playoffs the first year he played.
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So, you liked Denny Green, but because he reportedly did not get hoodwinked by the GM of your favorite team, he is being a "dick"? Some objectivity might be in order...
I have no love for Green, or the Cardnals, but I agree with you, he is doing a pretty good job of putting a team together in Arizona. It remains to be seen what will happen, Boldin may hold out, and I think JJ will be adequate at best, in Arizona. Personally, with the skill players Arizona has (assuming Warner does not return to his pre-2004 form), I don't think Travis is a good fit for their offense anyways.
I like TD, because he is proactive, but it is looking more and more that some of his detractors are not entirely off base in regards to this Travis Henry situation. How can you have a two time 1000 yard rusher dangling out as trade bate, months before the draft, and come up with nothing? I am pretty sure he will be traded, but it won't be until training camps are in full swing, when someone is injured, or some team figures out that the guys they have are not going to cut it. Truthfully, it was obvious Travis was history last season, TD made a mistake of not unloading him then. Argue all you want about how it would be foolish to put the running game on Willis McGahees' suspect knees, but just remember JP Losman. Surely a running back vetran the equvilant of Kelly Holcomb could have been found. The Peerless Price situation was much different than this.
this is an excellent post.
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Speed kills. The more you have, the harder it is for the opponent as long as they are good football players & not just track guys.
I like the pick of Everett alot. A TE who can stretch a defense
I like Parrish in that he is fast & has skillls but what I don't like is that due to hgis lack of size he may never be a full time starter & using a 2nd round pick on a guy that isn't expected top ever be a starter for you is too high of a pick
I also think the CB they took in trhe 5th round who some prognosticators thoght would go undrafted, I think he will be a bust for the Bills.
What is with Donahoe drafting so many short players?
Speed is great but having some size is good too
i disagree to an extent. #55 is a late second rounder, and it's not that common for such players to be studs who end up dominating (9 of 21 starters for the bills are first rounders, after all). if he ends up being a good 3rd down receiver who is difficult to cover and returns punts well, that's a good investment. i actually really like the pick. the bills need some explosiveness, and he gives a lot more of it than reed. sure, he has some defects, but he's not expected to be an every down player. he's supposed to be a productive role player who gives the offense another dimension in key situations. it's a good thing to have a productive third receiver who can catch 40 balls/year and be a reliable target in desperate 3rd down moments.
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The whple compensation piece for lost FAs is a black box that no one (even the professionals who are paid to concentrate on this stuff and are supposed to know it) has figured out yet.
Compensation is agreed to by a committee with NFL and NFLPA representation. Factors like when a player was drafted are factored in as folks say, but there is no hard and fast formula so teams or players can second guess these determinations.
In addition to individual player evaluation, the compensation goes to a team based upon the overall probable impact of pluses and minuses from the FA process. Thus, you can lose a few high grade FAs, but if the FAs you pick up perform well, your team will be compensated based on the total loss/gain and not simply based on your loss.
The other factor is that this was viewed by the NFL and NFLPA as a temporary measure and the compensation has gone down drastically (and may one day disappear if folks ever get generally used to the cap). In the first year teams got a 1st round choice to compensate for the loss of a player a team agreed to a contract with based on an assumption they would have him virtually forever if they want.
I think the highest compesation has dropped down to a 3rd or 4th at the highest and the Bills can count on no compensation for Henry for losing him.
performance from 2-3 years previous is irrelevant. one thing that gets factored in, i think, is the size of the contract the player gets from a competing team. that is, if he gets a $1 mill/year contract with little bonus, my sense is that means it counts against the bills compensation chances, effectively. immediate past performance (his last contract year) plus his performance the following year for another year weigh in too. assuming mcgahee is healthy, the bills probably wouldn't get much of anything assuming they sign any free agents next offseason.
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Old Article on Engelhard from last june
Interesting that old pastabelly is in cahoots with Engelhard.
that guy is bad news. he gives agents a bad name, and believe me, that's hard to do.
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I checked out Englehard's website. The website itself is a joke, looks like someone used aolpress 2.0 or something to make it back in like 1998. However, his client list is not comprised ENTIRELY of scrubs.
And theres no way Henry would ever get a better deal than the one Hadley stole from the jets for DeWayne Robertson. "The next Sapp!!" he was called coming into the draft. WHen are people going to learn that it's a bad idea to draft players from Kentucky high in the first round.
Notable Englehard Clients:
Henry
Robertson
Dorsey Levens(who is crap now anyhow)
Pro Bowl KR Allen Rossum
DE Robert Mathis(he may get a good contract sometime in the next 2 years).
This one was my absolute favorite though:
Joe Hamilton
Quarterback, Indianapolis Colts
(1999 Heisman Trophy Runner-Up)
The guy is an absolute nobody in the pros, its been 5 years since he came in 2ND for the Heisman, on a team with Travis Henry no less, but htey still have to say that, like some GM will just be surfing the web and say, "wow, i didnt know that, let's bring that guy in!".
He also has the eagles practice squad quarterback. And did the links for the clients of his in other sports not work for anyone else? Implying that he has no other sports clients.
duh! i forgot about robertson. that said, check out the clients in the other major team sports (they do claim to cover them all ...).
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I really don't care if Travis likes it or not. He can play, or he can sit out, it doesn't matter. The Bills weren't offered much, it wasn't worth making a deal. Quarterback controversies are serious issues, RB ones, are NOT. Especially when it's not an issue who the best back is and when that backup is well paid.
I'm not a big believer that it's good for a team to be on cruise control anyway. It doesn't hurt to give the Boss reason to show the pack who's in charge. Remember how upset the Patriots were about Lawyer Milloy getting cut? SUPER BOWL. I think a little discomfort and the knowledge that the coach/GM aren't going to be lead by the nose is a good thing.
fair enough, but the pats did CUT milloy (i.e., get rid of a perceived problem). it was salary-related, to be sure, but all the same they get rid of guys that aren't going to help them. keeping henry on the team to screw him seems pointless. if you want to screw him, why not simply cut him in late august? the best he'll get is a sub $1 million contract, and he'll have been taught his lesson. he'll be of more use to the bills in that sense than in his present state.
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I wonder how much of that is Henry, and how much is his agent Hadley Engelstupid. The folks who met him after the Arizona game last year -- and watched him make a total fool of himself -- think Travis could probably beat him on the Wonderlic. Unless dear Hadley gets smarter after he sobers up....
lori - TH did in fact hire him (he's his second agent, i think). great minds often think alike. as for engelhard, i checked out his agency's pathetic excuse for a website -- they don't have much except for some nfl scrubs, a fading dorsey levens, and TH. clearly, TH is their chance to make some cash and a name for themselves if they get anything close to what they want. that's why i don't expect henry to be anything but recalcitrant come this season. remember, he really does think his job was unjustly taken from him, and he's not in any mood to see the other side of the argument (i.e., that teams need to two good running backs, that mcgahee is better than him, etc.). that guy is looking out for #1. next year he'll be 27 and 2 long seasons removed from paydirt glory. his price tag will inevitably go down if he is a backup in buffalo this year.
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I think a lot of people are missing two important points with regard to Travis:
1.Willis has blown out a knee TWICE. He has an injury history and he has an upright running style that lends itself to injuries like the one he suffered in the Fiesta Bowl vs. Ohio State. It's very conceivable that Willis could get hurt and Travis could come in and rush for 1500 yards and save the Bills playoff bacon. The Bills have a first year starter at QB, they can't afford to be lining up Joe Burns behind him on Sundays.
2.What is the big loss not having AT MOST an extra third round pick? Those third round picks have been such a bounty for the Bills afterall. Could they go on without last years 3rd rounder, Tim Anderson? How difficult would it have been to replace the contributions of Ron Edwards the last 3 seasons? Coy Wire? This draft was weaker than those three drafts, so I don't foresee having missed out on the next Jonas Jennings. In summary, BFD. Teams wanted to steal Henry, and given the risk of the scenario above, I agree with Donahoe that it wasn't worth it. We'll see who's yucking it up when JJ Arrington is a bust(he will be), Ryan Moats isn't an answer and when Chris Brown is hurt again all season for Tennessee. They made "on paper" decisions and IMO, they are likely to regret it when they can't move the ball on the ground next year.
badol, i see where you're coming from, but doesn't henry strike you as the kind of guy who will refuse to show up next year and go to the mats vs. donohoe? maybe i'm wrong, but that's what i see him doing. there have been a lot of seemingly credible rumors floating around that he refused to play at the end of last year even though he could.
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I amassed a list of the last few coaches of every team to show how there isn't a single GM in the league that has chosen two consecutive good coaches, and there isn't really even a team in the league that has done it with the possible exception of the Steelers with Noll and Cowher, although a lot of people hate Cowher and even more knew that Noll had lost it long before they replaced him. Here is an updated list:
RAVENS
Billick
Marchibroda
BILLS
Mularkey
Gregg Williams
Wade Phillips
BENGALS
Marvin Lewis
Dick LeBeau
Bruce Coslet
BROWNS
Butch Davis
Chris Palmer
Bill Belichick
BRONCOS
Shanahan
Wade Phillips
Dan Reeves
HOUSTON
Dom Capers
COLTS
Tony Dungy
Lindy Infante
Jim Mora
JAGUARS
Jack Del Rio
Tom Coughlin
CHIEFS
Dick Vermeil
Gunther Cunningham
Marty Schottenheimer
DOLPHINS
Dave Wannstedt
Jimmy Johnson
Don Shula
PATRIOTS
Bill Bellichick
Pete Carroll
Bill Parcells
JETS
Herman Edwards
Al Groh
Bill Parcells
Rich Kotite
RAIDERS
Norv Turner
Bill Callahan
Jon Gruden
STEELERS
Bill Cowher
Chuck Noll
(two good ones but not same GM and the last one that did was you know who)
CHARGERS
Marty Schottenheimer
Mike Riley
Kevin Gilbride
TITANS
Jeff Fisher
Jack Pardee
Jerry Glanville
(this is arguable too as Fisher and Pardee were both pretty good but neither won anything and Mike Holovak hired Pardee while Floyd Reese hired Fisher))
CARDS
Denny Green
Dave McGinnis
Vince Tobin
Buddy Ryan
FALCONS
Jim Mora, Jr.
Dan Reeves
June Jones
PANTHERS
John Fox
George Seifert
Dom Capers
BEARS
Lovie Smith
Dick Jauron
Dave Wannstedt
COWBOYS
Bill Parcells
Dave Campo
Chan Gailey
Barry Switzer
LIONS
Steve Mariucci
Mike Mornhinweg
Bobby Ross
PACKERS
Mike Sherman
Ray Rhodes
Mike Holmgren
Lindy Infante
VIKINGS
Mike Tice
Denny Green
Joe Burns
SAINTS
Jim Haslett
Jim Mora
Mike Ditka
GIANTS
Tom Coughlin
Jim Fassell
Dan Reeves
Ray Handley
EAGLES
Andy Reid
Ray Rhodes
Rich Kotite
49ers
Dennis Erickson
Steve Marriucci
George Seifert
SEAHAGS
Mike Holmgren
Dennis Erickson
Tom Flores
RAMS
Mike Martz
Dick Vermeil
Rich Brooks
BUCS
Jon Gruden
Tony Dungy
Sam Wyche
REDSKINS
Joe Gibbs
Marty Schottenheimer
Steve Spurrier
Norv Turner
no offense dog, but i don't know of anyone the board who thinks mularkey was a bad hire. i for one think he's great - positive but easygoing attitude with the media, no boasting, realistic, flexible. it was a good move by donohoe, who in retrospect overanalyzed when picking williams. with mularkey, he seems to have gone with his gut. smart move.
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Mularkey was just on Syracuse radio. Said they're still looking to trade Henry for a player or a draft choice. Sounded like he's pretty sure he won't be on the team this season. Also, would have liked to have kept Bledsoe as a backup, and the LT position will be between Gandy and Peters to start.
interesting. i do remain hopeful that a trade happens and that we get a useful player, if only a special teams gamer.
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Reuters
April 26, 2005
Vladimir Putin issued a quick retraction, after he initially claimed that the collapse of the Soviet Union was the worst geopolitical catastrophe of the century. Putin quickly reassembled the press corps to announce that the worst geopolitical catastrophe of the century was, in fact, Tom Donahoe's inability to trade Travis Henry for fair market value.
To allay the fallout from this geopolitical disaster, Putin offered 3 Russian mail order brides and a case of vodka.
When reached for comment, Donahoe said that Putin is a liar, because he only offered one mail order grandmother and 3 opened beers.
i'd take that for travis! i can recycle those bottles, you know ...
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if you believe that, then you may as well fire the scouting staff. there are a lot of contributors to be had in later rounds, and even if they don't start, they can contribute on special teams.
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Agreed. But I don't think we're at that point yet. Maybe in July, but not yet.
Many teams will be looking at their rosters now that the draft is over, and some may decide to pull the trigger on TH prior to opening training camp. Let's let the process work a while longer (just as Seattle is doing with Alexander) before pushing the "red button."
i agree that this isn't over yet, and i remain hopeful. i just never like to be in a situation where you're rooting for injuries. unless memory fails, i can't think of any team losing starting caliber running back before the season last year besides miami, and that was a totally fluky situation.
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So, TD does what you want and trades TH for a 7th round pick. Then, Travis goes out and runs for 1,500 yds and 12 TDs, and everyone is ready to shoot TD because he gave up a probowl back for a 7. It just doesn't work that way.
Travis should not be traded for anything less than a 3.
then the bills will get nothing.
Bills will get good value for Henry
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no one significant got hurt last year in preseason, as a matter of fact. there was the ricky williams situation, but that was a one-in-a-million occurrence.