Stampede

i find it interesting that Bill Walsh called Rick Mirer the "second coming of Joe Montana" wasn't Walsh the one who endorsed Edwards? i could be mistaken. Mirer is number eight of the fifteen first round busts in the article.

first off, i'm with you Mike Oxhurtz, if there is any time to be optimistic it's during the post Jauron era. and second, does anyone remember Miami going from last to first (and in the AFC East of all places, arguably the toughest conference in the NFL)? what was the one big reason (credited that is) that it happened???

gentlemen, here is the link that i referenced in my earlier post, please read it: http://www.buffalobills.com/news/article-3...e1-2481baec6b88 after reading it again after coming across this topic i have come away from it having an even greater sense of optimism...i really like our head coach and how he relies on input to guarantee that we have the best players on the field with the best possible game plan. the way i see it he has put his own nuts in the vice by assuming the play calling responsibilities meaning he will take blame for failure but he is still smart enough to know that two heads are better than one. again from the same write up: Gailey will be handling the offensive play calling duties, but Modkins will be a part of the process. The reason why is their ability to work in concert with one another over the years has been seamless. “The best thing about it is he and I have been together for a while and we have a unique relationship,” said Modkins. “It’s one in which we see the same things, so from an organizational standpoint we’ll challenge each other schematically. He knows that he and I are on the same page with what we believe in.” Modkins is also handling Buffalo’s running backs, an area of coaching where he’s been very successful in the past. to go off topic, i only wish Lynch would get his act together and wake up to the possibilities...Lynch/Jackson/Spiller...this could be the back field "holy trinity" (i apologize in advance to anyone i may have offended) but just think about that for a minute! it gives me the shudders. i challenge all of you to name any team that could compare? ANY TEAM!

straight from the Bill's official web site (under the title "Modkins much more than Gailey's Assistant"): Gailey will be handling the offensive play calling duties, but Modkins will be a part of the process. The reason why is their ability to work in concert with one another over the years has been seamless. Buffalo’s head coach will seek Modkins’ input on the many facets of the offense that will have to be pieced together as the weeks and months of the offseason wear on**. He’s Gailey’s sounding board. a football confidante. Modkins is also handling Buffalo’s running backs,an area of coaching where he’s been very successful in the past. ...what Modkins respects most about Gailey’s approach to offensive football. His willingness to adapt and change to the talent he has at his disposal. Gailey has said down the line he may relinquish his play calling duties, but for the first couple of years it appears that he intends to get things set just right on offense before turning things over. Modkins doesn’t deny the opportunity to call plays is an attractive challenge, but he also realizes that’s not his responsibility in 2010. “That’s not my focus,” he said of play calling. “We all have a role and whatever he determines my role to be then that’s what my focus is. If that happens one day then so be it. Right now I’m very thankful that we have him in the role that he has for us offensively. He’s one of the best coaches I’ve been around offensively. I’m excited about it.” ** it appears to me that the OC position is a two headed monster so to speak, but Modkins won't be calling the plays, at least for a while.

very interesting site indeed. i particularly liked your comparison between the Bills and the Colts draft tendencies, unlike a lot of people on this board who constantly cry about Modrak and our scouting department i have always thought the blame should fall squarely on the coaching staff. people seem to overlook the fact that these scouts zero in on players two and three years prior to them being drafted and in some cases even earlier! they have watched draft prospects play numerous games not just a couple. the talent that these players have is unquestionable, how they will be brought along for each team's needs and eventually utilized is not in my book. the scouting department's job is just as the name implies but once a prospect is drafted it's out of the scout's hands. i'm sure many of them have winced at how their personal prospects were handled down the road. i would love to get a scout's perspective as to how he/she thought their draft pic was handled the first couple of years after a team acquires them. i remember listening to an interview a few years back with a player for the Bucs (can't recall exactly who at the moment) but he talked about how much a rookie can fall behind during a holdout or injury and that it was next to impossible for them to catch up once they do join the team. he said it's not as if they hold special classes with the position coaches to get up to speed, you just miss out , unless you have freakish abilities. but interestingly he also talked about how if a rookie is mis-handled how it can have just as devastating an affect on their careers and very few can overcome it, no matter what the position.

absolutely, i am a NFL fan, i love football. but my heart is forever attached to the Bills and that alone makes it a necessity.

yes i agree as well, this was the type of draft that was needed. i was impressed with how they went about getting who they felt will and can help the team, with a deaf ear to all the TALKING HEADS and SO-CALLED FANS who are enamored with the media darlings. i liked the Levi Brown pic also. now let's see what Gailey and crew can do!

as you have said yourself "we already have PRODUCTIVE player"' Spiller goes beyond a "productive player" he is a game changer. i didn't expect Spiller at this point but i know that he makes our offense and special teams better in a big way. you will "fall in line" and its not "horseshit" or a "waste" this kid is extremely dangerous! having said that i would like to believe Nix and hope we can keep Lynch....just imagine the possibilities!!!!

good for Starks, i would support him. the second link is totally hilarious (and most possibly true on every account)!

i agree with you 100% besides, this is a thin qb class, the odds of getting a franchise qb is better with the 2011 draft. and as you point out (and i've said before) concentrate on building the trenches first, maybe pick up another qb through trade to compete if available and rely on possibly better coaching this coming season. i don't like this years choices at qb. i guess we will know soon enough.

i remember well when Gruden was salivating over the chance to get RJ, which he did....he is no guru.

and still not one of the naysayers have given a single viable reason as to why they don't want him here the only reason i think Campbell isn't the right guy is because of the lack of consistency on washington's behalf. his head has to be swimming, but yet he has continued to improve so i could be wrong. i am optimistic (as usual) and have faith that the front office knows best. at least they should be able to give a reason as to why they will take the path they chose. in all honesty i don't care who they bring in to compete for the job as long as it puts us back on the "quick" path to glory and SEVERAL super bowl wins (as long as it's not big ben that is). as for Troy... that's okay i know there are no "facts" to back your argument and your reasons can remain secret

all it takes is a little time to google him and all of his stats and accomplishments appear as if by magic (just kidding)! i don't see why anyone would not think he is worth the risk (low) based on his bio. the only downside that i could see is he really wanted to play for cleveland and his height, which i have seen listed from 6' to 6' 2", but we all know you don't have to be tall to be a good qb. and just as Va Bills added he competed well against Flacco he just fell to untimely health concerns which is what i was referring to when i said "if he is healthy". for everyone that says he is not worth it i am mystified, unless of course you are speaking out of ignorance and/or emotion. his qb ratings 2004:134.1/2005:162.7/2006:162 completion % 2004:55.7/2005:62.9/2006:72 he was sacked a total of 13 times his last year 2006 he had 43 rushing att for a 3.6 yd avg won the heisman and of course he now has nfl experience for those who said he doesn't have a good arm where did you get that info? first off i remember seeing him play and second according to his scouting report: "The 6-1, 215-pound quarterback ran a 4.70, which would have been second among QBs at the combine behind Boise State's Jared Zabransky, but still not as fast as some scouts anticipated. An outstanding athlete, Smith also beat all the combine quarterbacks in both the vertical jump and the broad jump. Smith's arm is also one of his great strengths-literally. It is both strong and very accurate, as he proved both throughout his senior season and at OSU's pro day." so far those who are totally against giving him a chance haven't come up with ANY documentation to back their arguments, when all i can find are reasons why we should. so help me out what have i overlooked?

if Troy is healthy i think this is our best option, if not stay with who we have, address our other needs and acquire our "franchise qb" in next year's draft. i personally don't think Nix and crew are interested in drafting a qb this year anyway, i never got that feeling from them and i think it is appropriate. this class just isn't deep enough. i would like to see what Gailey, Modkins and Cortez can do with whoever steps up by season kickoff. i agree wholeheartedly with the ESPN rumors quote.

the only thing that you must agree with is that he is guilty of having the continuing misfortune of constantly providing "bad press". after a while people will start to wonder. and now there is a third accusation? maybe they are all just gold digging and if that is the case wouldn't he try to avoid those scenarios? can't he see this for himself? i don't know what happened with these women and neither does anyone else on this board. i hope the truth does come out some how. anyway i read about this latest development on the usa today site and just had to include this parody that a reader responded with: "BR...stalking the night clubs for victims.......Animal Planet should do a show on him....The croc hunter :Crikey There e is......a monster....the biggest bi-pedal predator to walk the earth.......and look at his beady shifty eyes....those allow em to survey the plains of the niteclub serengeti.....I would like to capture em...but e is too big and could quite possibly rape me.....is type are known for their hyper-sexuality.....but fortunately for me I'm not inebriated.....the inebriated are the most vulnerable and they are the favorite target for this massive beast....usually they work in packs to corral the victims..and like any other pack ...the alpha male dines first..crikey e's got one.....a little drunk female.........I'll shut off the cameras as it is too horrific a sight to see..." i must admit shame for laughing at this because the accusations are anything but!

honestly, did you actually read my post? you know that you didn't so why reply... anyway thanks guys for the replies, i see that i really didn't miss anything at all!

It's interesting that Tebow wasn't even on my mind when I originally posted. I had actually just read an assessment of Jarret Brown and decided to pose the question which has been on my mind for ages. This seems to be the case with most (if not all) college QBs who go to a school that run a spread offense, or in the case with even Philip Rivers and his throwing motion when he entered the draft. But since everyone assumed I was referring to Tebow; if he went to Columbia, Stanford, Harvard or even Syracuse I might (maybe ) be able to understand because of the academic demand alone, but UF? UF? I went to a very demanding school and had a very busy schedule on and off campus. Many times we (fellow students) would talk with each other agonizing over whether we should take extra classes during summer recess or accept a co-op position or volunteer for community service (summer vacation? who had time for vacation?) in order to enhance our marketability after graduation. And believe me it wasn't a matter of getting a 10 million dollar signing bonus vs 30 mill or more in our case. Often times we had to sacrifice one thing for another if it meant better job opportunities later. Even if Tebow isn't about the money, the difference between a 10 mill and 30 mill plus signing bonus can go a long way in charity or missionary work if that's where his heart is at. I'm sorry but I can't understand why anyone (not just Tebow) couldn't schedule the time to improve his mechanics to be of better use to an NFL team IMMEDIATELY and get more money in the process (not that I agree with throwing big money at rookies but that's the way it is). after all he DOES want to be in the NFL. who can argue that there would be no question of being a first round pic if he had scheduled a little time to improve on his own each year before graduation?

I apologize if I missed the discussion elsewhere (and i did look), but why would a college QB with aspirations of playing in the NFL not work on taking the ball from under center, proper throwing motion, understanding the pro set etc, etc on his own time while in college, as opposed to weeks before the draft? It seems to me that if they where REALLY serious about their future they would spend time during EACH off season (college) to do just that. What am I missing???

if Vick were found guilty of or had a history of suspected abuse of women would he be more welcomed here then? ...i know this has been presented before but i still don't get it. even so, hasn't he been punished for his transgression? i find it hard to believe that if he never had this conviction (and abused dogs) that ANYONE would object to his being here considering the current QB situation. especially with the track record Gailey has with Vick's "style" of QB play. if i missed the explanation i apologize, i guess it went over my head. could someone explain it one more time? seems to me there are a lot of "POS" people playing in the NFL (as there are in life, period), but then again what do i know.

i've always wanted Cutler when he was available at the draft, i think he is a much better fit for Buffalo than Edwards. i have given Edwards the benefit of a doubt but i've never believed he was the one. my choice is Cutler (provided the coaches know how to work with him that is).

am i alone in wondering if he made a play for the Bills?

first - people tend to forget that not only was Gruden Oakland's hc he was also the "actual oc". Oakland was still running his offensive concept, so he had to be peeing his pants in excitement at the opportunity to claim a guaranteed sb after inheriting the most feared defense in the league. second - he was NOT a very good hc: the big complaint here was that he never kept his word or promises that he made to the players and he was too controlling and condescending, among other things. third - it would be interesting to see him in Buffalo as an oc -- ONLY if he agrees on formulating a system that highlights the talent on the field rather than his smarts. i believe that would work. i know only in my dreams.

oprecht geweldige voor u! ik zag nooit zijn spelen in Europa, maar hij moet mooi goed, halfgod geweest zijn? i hoped that he would start against Denver so i could see first hand.

i was born a Buffalo Bills Fan. i have never lived in Buffalo or New York State but i will always be a Bills fan win or loose until they leave the area. as painful as it may be, this is my destiny. Go BILLS!!!

i think the problem has more to do with the actual transition into the nfl. i believe poor coaching, poor coordinating and the rush to activate young qbs is the problem. qb coaches (or the lack of), offensive coordinators (more eager to be lauded as "geniuses") and owners share the biggest portion of the blame. if you consider the fact that college qbs are there because they at least have the talent and mentality for the position, should still have that talent and mentality if they chose to enter the nfl. if they are wise enough to play for a school that incorporates a pro set then they are that much more ahead of the curve. i honestly feel the majority of qbs that fail at the pro level do so primarily because of a lack of proper coaching. all nfl teams should incorporate a qb coach, but they don't. Tiger Woods (i know its not football but the same applies) is accepted as being the best golfer of our generation (possibly of all time) and he has a personal coach, it just makes sense in my mind. i STILL believe if JP had proper coaching, a stable offensive scheme and a staff that would have stuck with him (example: Eli Manning), we wouldn't have the problem that we are now faced with. and it appears as though Trent MAY be heading down the same path; poor coaching and failing to put the player in a position to display his strength within the system. in other words don't ask the qb to do things that DOES NOT take advantage of his NATURAL ability and strength. just my opinion, i could be wrong.