Bob Lamb

The NFL Draft has become a giant, media event where the over-anaylization has hidden the real process - teams have their criterias (unless you are the Vikings) There are probably as many "busts" as "hidden gems" Perception is everything - reality sucks (sometimes)

Some background material http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/cvx.htm Will advances in missle technology render carriers useless ?

O line coach: Carl Mauck, who probably now lives in a van down by a river near Detroit. Marc in Montréal 493884[/snapback] Carl Mauck http://www.chargers.com/team/coachbio_mauck.cfm

Lonsberry stirkes again http://www.lonsberry.com/writings.cfm?go=4

I already have the whole game plus the aftermath on the PC - just waiting to figure out what software will allow the 2:37 on a CD Consultants are being called Wes Goforth looks like a HS kid !

JK to Thurman 12-yd TD pass with 51 seconds left. JK and crew had moved the ball 75 yards in 51 seconds 10th staright victory over the Jets Xcellent !

I'm so disgusted - I'm not even watching the Bills tomorrow

Who still is burning a torch the playoffs and what are you realistically expecting? I myself and resigned to the fact this this is a team wrought with holes in the offensive and defensive lines, lacking decisive leadership and still does not know what it has at the QB position long term... 476056[/snapback] If the SD Padres can win their division with a barely .500 record - and considering the current state of the AFC East - anything is possible That's why they play all the games

Which ? 1988 or 1982 ?

Bill Polian still wants $19,000 for the goal posts

Some details of what you speak - Bills step out to a 24-0 lead started by Charles Rome scoring 26 yards after Bruce Harper fumbles the opening kickoff (16 seconds). Frank Lewis caught two TD's (50 & 26 yards) and Nick Mike-Mayer added a 29-yd FG for the 24-0 lead. The Jets scored 10 before halftime - score 24-10. 24-13 - end of third Q Joe Cribbs scores for 31-13 Richard Todd hits Bobby Jones for a 30 yd TD - 31-20 Kevin Long scores a one-yard TD after a big interference call on Mario Clark wipes out a Bills INT. 31-27 Buffalo can not generate a first down andf the Jets get the ball with 2:36 left With 10 seconds left the Jets are on the Bills 10 and on 2nd & 10, Bill Simpson steps in front of Derrick Gaffney in the end zone to seal the deal. The Bills move onto Cincinnati

November 20th, 1988 The 10-1 Bills welcomed the New York Jets to a soggy Rich Stadium on a cold, dank November Sunday. The Bills were coming off six days of relative rest after beating Miami the previous (warm) Monday Night, 31-6. The 5-5-1 Jets had lost the last two games, four of the last six and had scored a rare NFL tie against the Kansas City Chiefs. After a 7-9 record in the 1987 season, the Bills started the 1988 season 4-0, lost to Chicago in Week 5 and won the next six in a row – entering this game with the AFC East at their mercy. A win this day would clinch the AFC East Division with four weeks left in the season. The weather was miserable and the play on the field suffered as a result. The first quarter went scoreless and the Jets led 3-0 at halftime as the teams traded punts. Scott Norwood missed a 47 yard FG at the end of the first half when the ball hit the crossbar. The Bills kicker atoned by tying the game with a 25 yard FG in the third quarter. He put the Bills in the lead (6-3) in the fourth quarter with a 26 yard FG after 3:04. The Jets responded 3 ½ minutes later with a 40 yard FG by 15-year veteran Pat Leahy. The teams exchanged punts and on the next drive a 35-yard pass play to Pete Metzelaars left the Bills on the Jets 25 with 5 minutes left. However, on the next play, rookie, Thurman Thomas fumbled the ball and Scott Mersereau recovered for the Jets at the 30-yard line. The Jets conducted a 10 play drive to from there to try and win the game. We join the game at the two minute warning – the Jets have the ball on the 50-yard line: Fred Smerlas gets an unassisted sack on Pat Ryan Jets – short pass to the Bills 46 Jets – incomplete to Johnny Hector Jets – First down pass to Freeman McNeil – Bills 32 - 1:24 Left Jets – Short pass to McNeil – Bills 29 (2nd & 6) Jets Time Out Jets – Short Pass to Hector – Bills 23 Bills Call TO with 25 seconds left Pat Leahy, up to this moment had made 47 of 49 from inside the 40-yard line. He’s at the 40. The kick is up – and meets Fred Smerlas’s left hand. Nate Odomes recovers the ball and is out of bounds at the 30-yard line. There are 19 seconds left. Fred said, “The field goal before, they left a little gap on my side. I figured if I turned sideways a little bit, I could squeeze through and maybe get the ball. I had a strange feeling we were going to block it. It’s just something about this team.” The Bills go for broke – Jim Kelly throws the ball all the way to the Jets 6-7 yard line. A stretching Andre Reed had split the Jets secondary and was in FRONT of the three Jets defenders, touched the ball with BOTH hands and came up empty with 11 seconds still on the clock. The Bills go to OT – The Jets win the toss – The Bills kickoff – On the second play from scrimmage, Derrick Burroughs separates Roger Vick from the football and Cornelius Bennett recovers the ball for the Bills at the Jets 32-yard line. Thurman Thomas had left the game on a bad ankle – so: # 40 – “Fourth & Riddick” - (as he was known) ran down the game. Robb made four straight runs – First to the 29-yard line On the next play – behind the tandem blocks of Joe Devlin and Tim Vogler – to the 19 Next play to the 15 (two hands on the ball) Robb Riddick to the 12 At 3:47 in the OT period, Scott Norwood came onto the field, Dale Hellestrae made the snap, John Kidd was the holder and the kick was good. For the sixth time this season, Scott Norwood had settled a game for the Bills. The Buffalo Bills score win their first AFC East Division since 1980 ! Despite repeated warnings over the PA system, many fans invade the field. The goalpost at the scoreboard end of the field (where the winning FG was kicked) is quickly bent over and separated from the field surface. After a few more minutes – the tunnel goal post suffers the same fate (despite 100 additional rent-a-cops). One piece makes its’ way up the stands to Mr. Wilson’s box – he accepts. Ralph says, “It used to be the fans threw programs at me, now they’re asking me to sign them. I’ve been around football for a long time, but this has to be the greatest turnaround I’ve ever seen. There’s no comparison between this team and 1980. The 1980 team got better gradually. This just happened. Two years ago, this team was 4-12.”

http://chicago.citysearch.com/bestof/winners/sports_bar There is/was a Bills bar in Addisson - but the name escapes me Tracy O' Grady's ??????

Wish I could format that better - but the skill escapes me That's Todd Collins, Rob Johnson and Jonathan Paul (in order)

Just for giggles: Here are the statistics for other Buffalo “rookie” quarterbacks in their first four games. I’m not counting Jim Kelly or Doug Flutie because they were no rookies and Joe Ferguson played in a different time and place – Todd Rob J.P. Collins Johnson Losman Attempts 142 87 94 Competitions 85 55 45 Comp. % 59.9 63.2 47.9 TD 7 5 1 INT 7 3 2 Team Rushing Yd. 426 426 522 QB Rushing Yd 28 125 107 Team Record 2-2 1-3 1-3 Also noted: Rob Johnson missed the second half of his first game

Just for one week Is there rapid transit to the Georgia Dome ?

December 30th - The Peach Bowl January 1st - Atlanta vs. Carolina (playoff implications ?) January 2nd - Sugar Bowl (BCS) Now that's a lot of football !

R. Rich - "You shouldn't hate" PITY the Dolphins !

I'm positive that The Buffalo Bills are still playing on Sunday - and that's a great thing !

Wish I could be there Rock - but I'll be on my usual stool waiting for kickoff as Kemberley (CA name) keeps pouring cold ones - See you December 11th

There used to be a red mini-bus that parked outside gates 8-9 near the cemetery that had a crowd of Vietnam Vets, the MIA crowd. They set up a wooden bar and the Crown was flowing. I have no idea if they are still there as I seldom see that side of the stadium anymore. They flew a lot of flags.

Apparently MM doesn't understand the concept of "all in"

I hope they weren't $11.00 shots

"Just Give It To Them " BS requires no translation

Atta-Boy - Patience is a virtue - JP has a serious learning curve (and it continues)