Buffalo_Stampede

Exactly. Most owners want to win. If paying a RB like other top positions helped them win then they would do it.

You’re missing the whole point. Money is shared multiple ways. Between players and owners but also between players. There is nothing that can be done without affecting other players. The teams are spending money as written in the CBA. If you think something can be done then say it. Shorter contracts is not a solution. It would create more issues. RBs aren’t the only position with a beef. I also don’t think shorter contracts helps anyone besides the few elite RBs. The union is representing all players and all RBs. Not just Saquan Barkley. Teams carry 4 RBs on a roster. More RBs flooding the system wouldn’t help get them paid.

It was a gun, not his 🍆, so it’s ok.

Every position would want that and you’d be right back where they started with QBs and WRs getting big deals earlier. Also veteran players would be left behind. They aren’t changing the rules for a few RBs.

What is a possible solution? I haven’t heard anything that makes sense yet. To pay one position more means you take from another position. Simply adding more cap doesn’t mean RBs would get it. Also RBs don’t want to simply be paid more, they want to be paid like other higher paid positions. So if there was more money available they still wouldn’t be happy because they’ll still never be paid nearly as much as WRs. Teams aren’t paying RBs because they can get cheaper younger options. How do you fix that? I don’t think the Union can do anything.

Exactly. The problem is there are a lot of RBs. Some star RBs didn’t even start on their college teams. Look at the Bills. I believe Cook and Harris didn’t even start in college but became starters in the NFL. Alabama and Georgia have had multiple allpro RBs on the same teams. There are just so many good RBs available. Becoming UFA earlier will help a few RBs but it’s not changing anything. We’ve seen Zeke and Gurley sign deals at 23-24 years old. Those contracts weren’t good for the teams. Edit: Harris did start. Josh Jacobs, Najee Harris, and Brian Robinson were his backups. Alabama always seems to have 2-3 NFL RBs every year. Point remains, there’s always RBs.

It won’t work out well for them. There’s just too many capable RBs.

If your coworker made twice as much as you wouldn’t you complain? Doesn’t matter if you’re rich or not. Like every job though you’re paid what you’re worth to those paying you.

I thought all rookies shared a room?

What do they do for a week? Lol. Have meetings? It just seems really early. I thought they reported like a day or two early.

I think most fans would say centers are more important than RBs. Maybe not.

Why do rookies report a week early?

And what are you saying?

The biggest thing here is in order to pay RBs more you have to take money from somewhere else. Meaning other positions or owners. Also if the owners agree to give more money they aren’t going to want to pay RBs. There really isn’t a solution unless owners and other NFL players feel bad and want to give their money to RBs.

He is worth that to the Giants. The Giants feel it would be harder to replace Jones than Barkley.

I’ve always felt you get paid what you’re worth. If you’re worth more you’ll get more. It’s like WNBA players saying they deserve more. No. If people wanted to spend money on the WNBA then you would get more.

He’s definitely starting quality. There aren’t 64 better OG’s. Bates is not a problem for us. How many games did you watch and come away saying Bates was a problem?

3 WR sets is base offense in todays league.

I don’t think it’ll happen because it’ll only hurt veteran players, which is why they changed rookie contracts in the first place. There is no fix. QBs and WRs have taken the RBs money. This isn’t going to change.

Another one. Gurley only 23 years old when he got paid. So it’s not about age. It’s about the position. The Rams are a great example. They have struggled to replace Gurley but they still won a Super Bowl with his replacements. They had a RB by committee that year.

Zeke was only 23-24 years old when he signed that deal. As I said earlier some RBs will get a big deal if they had shorter rookie contracts, probably less than 5, but teams will still be able to find cheaper options. Tony Pollard has been the better option for the Cowboys the last couple years and he was a much cheaper option. Problem for Pollard is now he’s getting too expensive and will be replaced soon.

It’s not just about aging RB’s, it’s about the quantity of RB’s. RB is the easiest position to find a replacement. I actually don’t know what the solution would be. For regular people it works the same way. You get paid based on how many people can do your job equally as well. Cashiers at Walmart get paid a low wage because there are millions of people that can do the job. I don’t know if anything can help RB’s because the NFL is all about passing now. If they had shorter deals I think some RBs would get paid but the majority of them still would be replaced with cheaper options. I think teams will just avoid drafting RBs all together if they become too expensive. You don’t win Championships when your RB is the the focus of the offense. RBs will end up like FB’s soon enough.

Break down the redzone stats further. Did they improve? Maybe break down the season in quarters. I have stats that show them improved to an elite red zone offense the last 6 games of the year. They ranked 23rd overall in redzone TD% after week 11. By the end of the season they climbed back up to 9th overall in redzone TD%. A lot of the time it’s about opponents also. They played below average redzone defenses those final 6 games, NE2x, Miami, Detroit, and Chicago. When their redzone offense was below average they faced 7 redzone defenses in the top half of the league. So I guess we could argue that they only improved because they played below average redzone defenses. I think it all averaged out over the season. I don’t believe it was all Dorsey though. A lot of the redzone mistake were on Josh Allen. He made some terrible decisions and poorly thrown balls.

What’s laughable about the Dorsey criticism is most of the criticism lines up with the Allen injury. Whats even worse is most of the people criticizing Dorsey also believe WR and OL lack talent. To me OC’s make their money in the redzone. They struggled in the redzone the first couple months of the season, mostly due to Allen’s struggles. Well they were really bad actually in the middle of the season. But were back to elite in the redzone by the end of the regular season. It’s why I have no worries about Dorsey. He did that with terrible WR and OL play.

Good thing is OL and protections can scheme up to help out 1 problem. But last year we had 2 players getting walked at the same time. Saffold and Brown. Brown at least has some upside.