Brand J
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32 minutes ago, jkeerie said:
I also believe a QBs success is dependent on his coach. If Mahomes isn't with Reid, he'll still play like Mahomes, but would he have had such early playoff success? Look at Stafford. He languishes in Detroit, but wins a SB under McVay.
I’d have to lean towards “yes.” If it was a matter of simply being fortunate enough to play with two future hall of famers, we could point to his supporting cast. Last year and this year tells me it’s Mahomes. He likely would’ve thrived in whatever situation - as long as his OL was at least adequate.
Stafford was always a good player, but comparing his rosters in Detroit with the one he had in the SB, there’s no comparison. I think Stafford would’ve had just as much success as Goff in Detroit this year if we switched the QBs, because that Detroit roster is much better now than the ones he had to work with. -
36 minutes ago, Einstein said:
First SB Win: 59%, 145 yards, 1 TD
Third SB Win: 69%, 236 yards, 2 TD, 1 Fumble
Sixth SB Win: 60%, 262 yards, 0 TD, 1 INT, 1 Fumble
Id say Belichick carried Brady for 3 SB’s and Brady carried Belichick for 3.
It was a good partnership.
Oh yeah, never did I say every SB win was due to Brady, of course it wasn’t. But the Pats don’t make it to all those SBs if it wasn’t for Brady. His influence on the regular season and the playoffs was greater than his HC and that’s the point. Coaches can only do so much, it’s up to the players to execute and more often than not, Brady made the plays that needed to be made when he needed to make them. And his supporting cast also helped.
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1 hour ago, Ghost_002! said:
Tom Brady was past up repeatedly during the draft. He was a 6 round pick for a reason. He had a hungrier to get better.
Look of all the teams whom past on Mahomes? Who seen Mahomes turning into who he turned into?
Reason being he was athletically underwhelming, kept getting rotated out with Drew Henson at Michigan, and most importantly, it’s impossible to measure intangibles. It was a missed evaluation from all 32 clubs, but you can’t blame the teams. Tom Brady was an exception, no one saw his success coming.
Mahomes had his own set of reasons for not being the #1 QB taken in the draft, but when the coach/QB discussion comes up, I’d say 70-75% of a coach’s success depends on his QB. It’s not the other way around, nor is it 50/50. Belichick, though a great defensive mind, would be nowhere near GOAT debate if Brady hadn’t lucked into his lap at pick 199 AND if Mo Lewis hadn’t ended Bledsoe’s tenure in NE.
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41 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said:
Tom Brady wasn't Tom Brady until like his 3rd SB. The patriots went on a killer streak once Brady took over. And Drew Bledsoe was an OK QB in the end. Nobody knows that more after Patriots fans than Buffalo fans.
Tom Brady was simply a game manager when he first took the field, true, but as a Patriots fan, I’m sure you remember the quote where your offensive coordinator said “once Tom got in the game, the offense was just different. It was like a well oiled machine.”
Brady hardly made mistakes, he didn’t do things to beat the team, he kept his side of the ball clean and moving, which is all you could ask from him at that point. The argument was that Belichick has never had a QB who was even “above average” and I asked what about Drew Bledsoe? Two different QBs, yet two vastly different results.
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4 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:
He didn’t exactly have an even above average QB in the Tom-less years.
Drew Bledsoe? Belichick went 5-11 with him in 2000, 0-2 in 2001. Tom Brady stepped in and went 14-3 his first year, same roster Bledsoe (and Belichick) had to work with.
Unless you believe Drew Bledsoe wasn’t an above average QB…
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52 minutes ago, Blank Stare said:
I know it’s BR, and some of these are a bit pie in the sky, but provided the economics work, I’d be up for just about any one of these trades if he really wants out:
I think Stef will be here next year, but I’d trade him yesterday for Brian Burns (or any of these first round pick ideas). No guarantee you’ll hit, but I’d invest heavy in WR in the draft under this scenario.
I don’t think any team is giving up a first rounder for an expensive 30 year old WR coming off a down year. If there’s such a team gullible enough to make that sort of deal, Beane would jump at it IMO.
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Do you think you’ll be in Buffalo next year?
”Well, yeah, I’m under contract. Unless you know something I don’t…”
Bills knew what they were getting in Diggs when they sent a 1st, two 4ths and a 6th to MIN. I’m actually a little surprised the Vikings got that much considering another high profile WR had been traded just before him and it wasn’t for a 1st. Name escapes me, thinking it was Hopkins? Also didn’t have to sign him to a 4 year $96M extension when a two year money raise would’ve sufficed given his age. Bills made their own bed.
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9 minutes ago, Green Lightning said:
You ever wonder what if we took Jefferson instead of trading for Diggs? We'd all be preoccupied with who would be WR2 and be set at WR1 for years to come. Is what it be.
We’d be in a much better spot today, no doubt. Also have to believe Jefferson wouldn’t completely disappear in the playoffs when corners are allowed to be more physical. No one saw the sort of success that was ahead for Jefferson or he would’ve been the first receiver off the board. That was a missed evaluation by everyone but the Vikings. The draft is a crapshoot, doesn’t make sense to trade up for any position that isn’t the face of your franchise. And even that’s a huge risk (hello, Carolina). Trade down if anything, accumulate capital in the early rounds.
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34 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:
did you not read my initial post all the way through?
I did, but disputed the “sure thing” support for a trade up. Agreed with your second point.
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34 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:
Yes, various scenarios could very well play out, but there are absolutely no guarantees that any teams picks will pan out as anticipated wether they trade up or stand pat…,
True, so why reduce the number of chances you have on potentially hitting on very good to great players at other positions? We’re not talking about trading up for a QB here. It’s a WR.
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53 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:
Well, Beane does love a trade up, and I’m okay with that provided that it’s for a “sure thing”’ @ WR. Otherwise bring in a bunch of draft picks and let them fight it out for the various positions, and early season trades, or whatever’s 😁👍🍸🚬
Too bad that even the “he’s as sure as a sure thing ever was” didn’t even turn out “sure” in the end. No such thing. The draft is a crapshoot, if the Bills burn capital moving up and miss on the pick, the franchise will be set behind KC even more. If they hit on the pick, great, but now other areas that could’ve had young, cost controlled talent will suffer. Best approach has always been to accumulate picks in the “money” rounds, we just don’t do it often enough.
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Diggs’s disappearing act in the playoffs is no different from every single member of the defensive line. I don’t understand it really.
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4 minutes ago, Toyo321 said:
Just posted on MSN 2/2/24
ORLANDO, Fla. - Buffalo Bills wide receiver Stefon Diggs, in his first comments since his team was ousted from the playoffs, expressed a bit of uncertainty about his future in Buffalo while admitting regrets about the team's season-ending loss.
Diggs, who is participating in this weekend's Pro Bowl Games in Orlando, was asked whether he was optimistic about the future in Buffalo and delivered an answer that could be construed as non-committal.
"I feel like I take it day by day," he said. "Obviously, there's a lot of changes going on, a lot of things going on. I can't really put the carriage before the horse, you know what I'm saying? But I got a great offseason in front of me to put a lot of work in and kind of build around what we got and what we're doing.
"I can't tell you what the future holds, but I'm still being me."
When asked whether he was ready to move forward with the Bills, Diggs replied, "I'm ready to go no matter which way it goes." He did not elaborate.
Diggs declined comment after the Bills' 27-24 loss to the Kansas City Chiefs in the AFC Divisional round and had not spoken to reporters since the days leading up to the game. In the absence of his comments, speculation has emerged about Diggs' future in Buffalo.
Earlier in the season, when asked about his future, Diggs was adamant. He said, "I've never really said anything about being unhappy or any instance of that. So, when you're drawing conclusions as to stuff I've never said, that's what kind of troubles me... I've spoken true words. I've said the same thing over and over and over."
Asked about the Chiefs playoff game, Diggs on Friday said, "I've been in league for a long time. Obviously, even as players, some plays we want back and some plays I want back, especially at the end of the game. But it's not much you can do about it. Now, here as you take a couple of weeks to decompress and think about it, things could have been better. But [I'm] kind of rolling with the punches and moving forward."
For someone who “can’t tell you what the future holds,” despite the fact he’s firmly under contract the next four years, to me it sounds like he got word the team may want to do something with his contract that doesn’t benefit him. Pay cut request?
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Two ruthless tormentors.
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32 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:
That and can he do it for 20 years? Brady had the longevity. Mahomes looks like a doughboy. I doubt he watches what he eats or takes care of his body like Brady did
It’s a much less physical game today than when Brady played. You can’t even touch the QB in many instances, so that helps. If Mahomes wants to play for 20, he’s got the sort of game that could do it.
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16 minutes ago, Low Positive said:
This guy did a pretty deep dive on value in the NFL draft.
On the longer end, but definitely a good watch. Notable quotes:
“If you sacrifice for players now, it probably won’t work out for you, but if you sacrifice for the future, the future is likely to be bright.”
“Teams make irrational decisions all the time.”
”The likelihood of a player at any position being better than the one selected after him is 52%, essentially a coin flip.”
What he says about NFL GMs makes complete sense, they’re antsy and make terrible trades to move up because they don’t have an eye on a future they may not be a part of. Everything is done for the “now.” Despite all the evidence we have of how moving up for players probably isn’t worth the risk, the same idiotic decisions are made every year. What CAR gave up for Bryce Young was criminal. Stockpiling 1-5 picks and/or selecting where I’m slotted would be my practice every year as GM. If I have to leave the room until the pick comes up to resist the temptation to trade up, so be it.
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31 minutes ago, DCOrange said:
I think I'm on board with this. I don't think the price to move up to the 15-20 range is crazy and I think Thomas is closer to the top 3 WRs than he is to the guys that will be available at our current slot.
I know YardsPerPass on Twitter has been saying he thinks Beane will move into the top 10 to get Nabers/Odunze. I will understand the rationale if that happens, but that will be a very high price.
Beane said he traded with MIN for Diggs because he didn’t believe the team could get high enough to select one of the top 3 WRs (Lamb, Jeudy, and Ruggs). With that first rounder the Vikings picked Justin Jefferson and would have him on a cost controlled rookie contract for at least 4 years.
I’ve said it before but it bears repeating: if trading up guaranteed you’d be getting a superior talent in comparison to what you could get later, I’d be all for it, but that’s not at all how the NFL draft works. Why people, including Beane, have such a fascination with moving up and losing out on other potential contributors I’ll never understand. Picking the right guy is what matters, NOT where he’s picked. With that said, trade up for the QB if you absolutely believe in him, understandable because he plays the most important position in sports. But for any other position? “That’s a no from me, dawg.” I’ll throw up if Beane trades into the top 10 for a WR, especially considering how this team needs a bevy of good talent on cheap, cost controlled contracts.
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34 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:
I was absolutely thrilled, I'm not a big cfb guy so stay outta mock drafts but after watching his pro day I wanted him bad, pause, I would have taken him 1, by far the most untapped potential in that draft
It’s funny because I had the opposite reaction after watching his pro day. I felt he was trying to throw the farthest footballs he could rather than actually trying to complete the pass by hitting his downfield man in stride. Like he was trying too hard to show off what a cannon he had. I felt he was a physical specimen of a QB, but didn’t do all the other things well enough to ever be a good QB, much less a great one. It’s funny when I look back on it now, but you just never really know how a guy will pan out based on his college tape and measurables.
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Jason Kelce does seem to be as Buffalo as Billy.
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I can’t remember if Josh has turned down a legitimate pro bowl invite. I believe the ones he passed on have all been as an alternate because someone else didn’t/couldn’t go.
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Am I the only one who didn’t know that Brenden Rice is Jerry’s son?
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25 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
He wouldn't have been. The Cardinals were heartbroken we took him and begrudgingly settled on Rosen. They never wanted him and were all in on Allen. They thought he was theirs until we moved up. They didn't even give Rosen a second year with the team and moved on from him as soon as they could. It's weird they even Drafted him at all with how upset they were.
Apparently, they were also trying to move up and thought they had a deal that would have gotten in front of us. Thank God Beane was able to beat them out.
It was Buffalo who had a deal in place with the Broncos at 5, not the Cardinals. But Chubb was on the board so they turned the Bills offer down (which did include a future first rounder and the 12th pick).
The Bills called the Colts, but their OL Quentin Nelson was on the board, so then they tried Tampa. Tampa fielded calls from both the Cardinals and the Bills, but the Cardinals were firm in what they were willing to part with and that didn’t include a future first rounder or a 2nd round pick. Tampa tried to fleece the Bills for both 2nds AND a future first but Beane balked. He said something to the effect of “just because I have the capital doesn’t mean I’m giving it away.” Both clubs ultimately came to an agreement on both 2nd rounders (which was an overpay) and the deal was made.
If only Beane knew that Arizona wasn’t willing to part with a 2nd (or first), he could’ve played his hand differently and held onto those picks. I read an article about how it all went down shortly after that draft and still remember the details. I just wish he hadn’t traded up again for Edmunds, Leonard and Warner (who they really liked) went later and were both better football players.
Oh and I hated the Allen pick. I said shortly after on this board that “it was like having our choice of Aaron Rodgers or JP Losman and we went for Losman.” But like with all Bills draft picks I was going to sit back and give him a chance. Never happier to be so wrong on my assessment!
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1 hour ago, JerseyBills said:
The MVP didn't make the Pro Bowl, Go figure..
.Maybe Josh's girl will win an Academy or Oscar award lol
Jackson was excused for personal reasons I believe, with CJ Stroud taking his place.
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12 hours ago, djp14150 said:
History lesson
the song was nothing…
then a European soccer team in Belgium adopted the song as its fight song and then it went to Italy, Italy adopted it on its World Cup run in 2006 , caught on and has been adopted around sports
https://www.npr.org/2018/07/11/626288758/american-anthem-world-cup-white-stripes-seven-nation-army
https://deadspin.com/how-the-song-seven-nation-army-conquered-the-sports-w-5875933links are sone of many
Interesting story of how it came to be. It was the same song that rose to number one on Billboard’s alternative rock chart, fizzled out after three weeks, and was mostly an afterthought until a bar in Belgium played it. This perfectly encapsulates the copycat nature of society. One European soccer club uses the song, then another uses it, then it makes its way back to the states where it was created, and they get wind of what others were doing and then they use it. One by one. I’m in agreement, Buffalo needs their own anthem, not one that’s played out and heard in sporting venues all over.
Bills to add Ronald Curry as quarterbacks coach (updated)
in The Stadium Wall
Posted · Edited by Brand J
I always thought Curry would pursue basketball over football. The money’s better, less to spread around.
EDIT: Just watched the video @KDIGGZ posted. I know there have been numerous McDonald All Americans who have flamed out in college, but Curry’s free fall as the number one recruit in the nation was pretty hard to fathom. He went to UNC and became a dud. Maybe too many focuses at once.