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I must be old, too ... I thought we were all in 'this' together. I don't let my fun infringe on those around me. Act towards others how I would want to be treated. I've been going to games since 1979 ... Maybe I was a little naïve back then, but I didn't see/hear nearly the volume of what took place on Thursday. When the extent of every sentence that is uttered (screamed, really) in my hearing has more f-bombs than any other part of speech ... I just simply watch the game unless the surrounding people become abusive or obnoxious directly towards me or my wife. Y'know ... Try to not infringe my fun (watching the game) on the fun of those around me (drinking beyond drunkenness, being vulgar towards other spectators and/or players and their families, hiding contraband, ... Generally just being more involved in anything besides what is taking place on the field).
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Have to address the Beebe play ... Rules are clear, when any part of your body besides your feet or hand touch the ground after contact with an opponent (whether or not they caused the part of your body to touch the ground) you are ruled down by contact and there can be no fumble. Beebe was upended by an opponent and the first thing to hit the ground was his head which caused him to drop the ball. Correct call was no fumble.
While tonight's calls were bad, the regular refs make their fair share of bad calls. Just a few I can recall:
- Music city forward lateral
- The push out in the back of the EZ against the Jags in 2004- Plax mugging Leodis (I think it was) in the EZ and then pushing off to catch the game winner
- Ed Houchuli's famous Denver fumble fiasco
- Beebe landing on his head but not being down by contact and fumbling
- Bert Emanuel catches the ball for what should be a first down late in the 2000 NFC Championship game between Tampa Bay and St. Louis but it’s ruled that he doesn’t have full control when the ground causes the fumble.
Let's just not kid ourselves into thinking that getting the real refs back will mean the end of bad calls.
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I've always been in favor of adopting what they have in arena leagues. On a run play, you must gain yardage or the clock stops ... Doesn't create a rule that is difficult to police or find loopholes in & makes more plays more meaningful. Just my thought.
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This I totally agree with. I don't see how Schopp, and other proponents of this think it can work when you deeper in your own territory. It works for this high school team - but does it work because of the strategy or does the team have overwhelming talent to begin with?
But, then Marv went for it when I was yelling kick the field goal - don't come away with no points - during the comeback game. I think it was 35-24 at that point and at least 4th and 5 from about the 20 and then Reich threw a TD to Andre.
I still can't believe he went for it and still think the smart thing was not to. Glad it worked, though!
I remember turning to my brother and making a motion to him with my fingers, saying we need to kick it ... We should have kicked it there ... I'm glad we didn't!
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My brother and I were a little confused on the 10 second runoff ... We thought that the runoff only takes place if the penalty causes a stoppage of the clock. Since the clock was already stopped due to the spike/incomplete pass ... Should there still be a runoff?
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Kelso may have looked like a dork out there, but today he doesn't have migraines.
I didn't read all the responses, so this may have been mentioned. Mark is a friend of mine and to my knowledge he still suffers from migraines.
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Why is that? Not ok to acknowledge that isn't important to me?
I don't have facts to back me up, but I would guess the VAST majority of NFL players come from what most would call "strong faith" backgrounds. I doubt there is a correlation as you have suggested.
That said -- I love the makeup of the players on this Bills roster and thoroughly enjoy rooting for them.
You're right ... You don't have facts to back it up.
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Can he hit Thigpen in the head on the sidelines from WITH the Gatorade cooler?
Fixed it ...
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But now Donovan McNabb will really be confused ...
Seriously though, I'm getting old so I may just not remember ... Did the playoff version come into play yet? If not, why would the league adopt a rule change that has never been shown to help anything? Also ... Trying out new rules in the playoffs was a backwards way of doing it anyway. Put your practice rules in preseason like they did with the position of the umpire. You could even ask a couple of teams to artificially tie in preseason to see how it works out.
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I always said Joe Namath speaks the truth. Very honest guy. He wouldn't lie. If he said the Jets suck they suck.
Unless he's drunk on live TV ....
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Minor detail ... We haven't had Mario here 3 days. It has been less than 48 hours since free agency started. The media seems to focus on the 3 day total to make it sound like it was more desparate or sensationalistic.
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He thought today was stick and bj day.
Can't expect anything more from Milbury ... When he was a player he beat a fan with his own shoe during a game ... He should been banned from all hockey involvement for life on that day
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I got one for $15 when they were on clearance at Dick's about a month ago.
I stopped in got four since they were so cheap
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The hit on Ivory that caused the fumble should have been a PF and 1st and goal at the 1 for the Saints. Expect him to get a fine this week.
^this x1,000
Textbook example of lowering your head to use it as a weapon ... Just like drinking and driving, the wrong person usually gets hurt
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This entire thread is devoted to the call… thus the topic title. So no, I'm not harping on anything. I'm discussing it with people who disagree with me.
As for your question, one distinction (and now I'm repeating myself) is that there are grey areas with most calls but if you look at the rule and you look at the photo, this was not in a grey area. It was a missed call that should have been called.
As for Aiello's statement, I don't know. You'd have to ask him.
But if you read the rule posted upthread and look at the photo linked upthread, it was clearly an illegal formation.
edit: And to repeat myself again, with a Head Linesman and a Line Judge standing on the line of scrimmage on every play, an obvious violation like this shouldn't be overlooked. It's not like holding or that sort of penalty… it's more along the lines of Too Many Men on the Field.
Except that too many men on the field is one of the very few reviewable penalties ...
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It eyeballs that Rosario's front hand/helmet are about 1.5 yards behind the line of scrimmage.
I'm gonna look up the rule.
Section 18 Line of Scrimmage
Article 1 The Line of Scrimmage is the yard line (plane) passing through the forward point of the ball after it has been made ready for play. The term scrimmage line, or line, implies a play from scrimmage.
Article 2 A Player of Team A is on his line:
(a) when his shoulders face Team B's goal line, and
(b) if he is the snapper, no part of his body is beyond the line at the snap,
© if he is a non-snapper, his helmet must break the vertical plane that passes through the beltline of the snapper.
Note: Interlocking legs are permissible.
10Rule 3, Section 18, Article 3
A.R. 3.8 Offensive A1 assumes a three-point stance with his shoulders facing defensive B's goal line. One hand is on the ground and it is on or not more than one foot behind his line. Neither of his feet nor the other hand is within one foot of his line. Ruling: A1 is legally on his line.
http://www.mediafire…8oc9b6wkn5etnpe
So Rosario is clearly not on the line of scrimmage and a penalty should have been called.
By strict interpretation, the LT is not on the line either ... That wouldn't ever get called
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I still think that Maybin 'Gary Anderson-ed' the Bills ... Gary just accomplished his feat much faster ...
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I've never seen any iron sharpeners. Usually it's a stone of some sort.
I have several files in my workshop that are made of metal (now an alloy of some sort, but used to be made of iron before alloys were discovered) that are designed to shave other metals (including iron).
Also ... That phrase shouldn't be attributed to Tebow ... It's Proverbs 27:17
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Tashard Choice claimed off waivers to replace FredEx
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I've been actively calling for him to be cut since last week when he tried his trick on the kickoff, trying to step out of bounds to draw the penalty. Not only did he fail at that (a very simple task) he also lost us a challenge and a timeout by lobbying Gailey to throw the challenge flag. FJ ran the wildcat better than Smith last year...and actually has completed a TD pass out of the formation.
Smith should simply be cut as an example.
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Everyone else was covered if you look at the replay, Simms said as much during the broadcast. Jones was the closest one to being open.
Not true, the slot receiver on the same side as Jones had a DB playing about 7 yards off. A quick throw nets a first down if he catches it
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Matthew 6:6
"But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."
Jesus condemned the Pharisees for their public displays of religiosity.
The condemnation that Jesus had for the Pharisees was much deeper than the fact that they prayed in public. Public prayer was not the issue. It had to do with the fact that the Pharisees primarily practiced their religion when others were watching as a show (what some accuse the athletes of doing). If Jesus was against public displays of faith ... He would have done things very differently Himself. Most of His miracles are recorded as happening in a public setting. There are also recorded prayers of Jesus that were definitely public expressions.
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Jeff Hostetler.
Especially against the 1990 Bills ...
RIP Ernie Warlick July 21, 1932 - Nov. 24, 2012
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A man I could call a friend, but hadn't seen in years ... When he would shake your hand at church, we always said he was shaking your elbow. He was a true gentle giant and a great man!