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Beane's Draft Picks come playoff time:

Not according to Turk! If you ask him, Beane just did a master class on drafting defensive studs that help us win SB's!

Time for that eye exam:

No My problem is I see the teams that are getting to the SB, Philly, SF, KC Cincy, GM's do a significantly better job drafting impact players, as well as Pro-bowlers on defense and offense. But our GM likes to trade with one of those teams even though the player that they pick always screws us over when it matters the most.

OK stat man. Here is your boy Beanes draft class since 2019. I list them all, but I want you to tell which defensive players hes picked in the first 3 rounds that are really good. I wont even add the 2024 draft here. 2019 Draft 2019 Class: DT Ed Oliver (No. 9 overall)= Just OK OT Cody Ford (No. 38 overall) = Not on team/JAG RB Devin Singletary (No. 74 overall)= Not an Team/JAG TE Dawson Knox (No. 96 overall) = Severely overpaid JAG LB Vosean Joseph = Not even in the league I dont think 2020 Draft 2nd Round, No. 54 overall | A.J. Epenesa, DE, Iowa. ... = JAG 3rd Round, No. 86 overall | Zack Moss, RB, Utah. ...= Not on team/JAG 4th Round, No. 128 overall | Gabriel Davis, WR, UCF. ...Not on Team/JAG 5th Round, No. 167 overall | Jake Fromm, QB, Georgia. ... = Cant even get on a State Farm Commercial 2021 Draft 261Carlos Basham Jr. = LOL/Giants PS 393Spencer Brown = Good Pick 5161Tommy Doyle = LOL 6203Marquez Stevenson = LOL/Not in the league 2022 Draft 1Kaiir Elam= LOL 2James Cook= Good Pick 3Terrel Bernard = TBD on him, Slow and little 5Khalil Shakir = Good Pick 6Matt Araiza= Hardly punted against us 6Christian Benford = Good pick for draft pick # 2023 Draft 1Dalton Kincaid= Jury is still out. Had great first season due to Diggs drawing all the attention. 2O'Cyrus Torrence = Good Pick 3Dorian Williams= TBD, prove that he is good or really good 5Justin Shorter= Hasnt seen the field 7Nick Broeker= Who?? 7Alex Austin = Who??

Show me anyone of the guys on defense that you think is worth where they were drafted at stats.... Please. Just start with the ones I listed. Not your PFR grades. Here ill remind you... AJ, Elam, Boogie, Groot, Oliver, Bishop. These were all 1st and second round picks of Beane, and I would like you to name one of these guys that are any good for the draft spot they were taken. Ed Oliver!

Proof is in the pudding. We have 2- pro bowlers on offense and none even close on defense. AJ, Boogie, Elam, Groot, Oliver have all been here multiple years and not one pro-bowl. The last probowler we drafted on defense was Tre, and Beane didnt draft him, so again, show me each and everyone of the players Beane has drafted stats, not these skewed numbers from PFR. And my original argument is that he has failed in the early rounds of the draft since hes been here, outside of Josh and Cook, which are both on offense.

Prove that your right and im wrong then!

Maxx is not coming to Buffalo. Beanes not making any trades to get him or Garrett. Beane will target some washed up, way past his best days FA and he will rarely produce. It's not what I hope, it's what I know and I will use his history as proof. The guy was a AGM in Carolina. His job was to crunch the numbers. He wasn't the talent selector there and people here need to understand that. He is limited and it shows by our drafts! Once and a blue he will get lucky, but he has yet to fortify our needs with any real studs.

Trade for both! Cooper is washed. Just like Von. They may shine in small increments, but on a weekly basis, it ain't happening anymore. Cut bait and save the roster spots and salary cap

Im even more pissed just bacuse of that lame ass PC that Beane and Mcdermott had! Beane was obviously at a loss for words and rambled about Hamlin and Von and Cooper. All three were disappointment's to me, but it really sounds like he will use our precious cap space to resign Hamlin and Cooper, both whom we should not even waste a roster spot or cap space on. The mission is to get younger, faster and meaner on Defense.

I would agree to an extent, but we had a top flight defense several years ago, coupled with Diggs, Beasley, Davis, Sanders and still lost because we our defense couldnt stop them. IMO we could have allstars on our defense and still lose to KC. The biggest problem we have is Scheme, which is on the Coach(s).

To me there have been way too many reaches with our 1st and second round picks and that is on Beane, who BTW I dont think really runs our draft in the early rounds. No matter how much so of his apologist on this board try and defend him.... he has sucked at getting us top end talent, especially on offense. I can name one outside of Josh Allen, who was drafted 7 years ago btw and his name is James Cook!

I dont disagree with you on this! Everyone knew he was a project before he was drafted, with many of the draft scouts stating that he was a mid-to late second rounder for sure. My beef is we draft him when we needed more of a sure thing if we are gonna draft a DE. If there were none better than him when we picked, then draft BPA at another position of need, and trust me we had many!

and we are in Cancun, so it doesn't matter what we did, or continue to do during the regular season if we get bounced pretty much the same way every year! Put everything you have on Philly! You will see a smart coach manhandle that anemic offense and the refs! Weve made numerous offenses look really good this year, including KC's. 16th best offense ever, couldnt even get one 1st down with the SB on the line!

Belichick is a multi SB winning coach dude! Let's compare apples to apples now. Brady called a bad game! Face the facts. So did Babich

Preach! Sean has done a good job as far as chemistry, but I'll have whatever the Eagles and Chiefs have if it means 1, just 1 SB.

Kincaids first year was very promising! I attribute that to two things. 1st- He was a rookie and no team had any type of true film on him. #2- Stefon Diggs, and this is the biggest reason. Having a true #1 who had a killer first half of the season, takes so much pressure off of everyone else. "Everyone Eats" Well if that is the case, then both Kincaid and Coleman malnourished.

My question is and has been.... Why do we keep using first time OC's/DC's for a supposed SB contending team with a MVP QB in his prime. I know people are gonna say that Brady was an OC before, but he sucked at his job with Carolina.

Coleman = JAG. Is what we saw in college and I dont personally think he can deal with the cold weather. If he fell off because of a wrist injury, then I will add Butter Soft to his profile too. Kincaid = Jury is still out, but not looking too promising Carter = Mehh Solomon = Jury is still out Rosseau = See Tremaine Edmunds for this one! JAG IMO and we have what we see, but there are fans of his on this board that think that he was worth a first!

Yes it is and I am still bitter. This team is very fortunate that Josh remains relatively healthy throughout each season. That is the definition of LUCK if you ask me. The way Josh plays the QB position, even though he is a big QB, he (we) have been very lucky that he hasnt had to miss any significant amount of time during the season. As he ages, and he will be 29 next season, age catches up to everyone, so we cannot continue to waste his prime years with coaches that are still learning, or JAGS that shouldnt be starters on a SB contending team. From the sounds of the presser, we will pretty much be running it back with the exception of some rookies. That is downright SINFUL!

Facts! But the reality is that the system is the problem. We could have some.of those big names and I still feel like they would underperform in this defense. I got torched on here for saying we had JAGS on our d-line after we beat Denver and im not disputing that we need a Garret/Crosby type,but Beane ain't spending his precious draft capital that he uses on JAGS to get a Garret.

I posted this in another thread for Beane being on the clock several days ago and he did/said exactly what I thought, or predicted: I was thinking the same thing. I told people that he would hide out until Wednesday at the latest. He hasnt got much to say outside of the fact the he is dedicated to righting the ship and will exhaust all measures and leave stone unturned. That is until FA hits and he over pays some scrub like he did with Harty and then tell us how we are focused on resigning our own in the form of Damar and these other JAGS that couldnt get it done. It is time to move on from him now!!! McDermott too. This was as pathetic of a presser as I have heard. It almost as if we didnt lose the biggest game in several years to him. Shame on Josh too. It's not like i expect him to rant and rave to the fans or media about wanting change, but I am not too sure if because he is the best that we ever had, we cannot see through the fact that he is content with things the way that they are right now.

When will this happen? When Josh is 35 and on the decline. Yeah... Then we can say we have a stout D-Line, but offense is trash. The time is now to go First Round WR, not just any WR, but one with size, speed and some sort of route tree. Cant tell me that we cant get one in the first and/or second round, ive seen several contending teams do it. If they arent there, then trade a first, or 1 of our seconds to for a bonified WR Lets not forget Beane passes on DK Metcalfe for Cody Ford!

I was thinking the same thing. I told people that he would hide out until Wednesday at the latest. He hasnt got much to say outside of the fact the he is dedicated to righting the ship and will exhaust all measures and leave stone unturned. That is until FA hits and he over pays some scrub like he did with Harty and then tell us how we are focused on resigning our own in the form of Hamlin, Douglass, all the while neglecting Cook. I like the person, but im all set with Beane the GM!