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It’s hard to give credit when the competition was not complete. When I said the NFL was more established I wasn’t implying that the NFL team would win if they’d played. I was implying there were more talent on that side as it was more established. So you can’t expect most Bills fans to be comforted by those distant championships from a bygone era when the Bills keep getting knocked out every January. That’s why Romo’s ill advised moniker ‘Mr. January’ for Allen during the WC around was very cringey. Takes on a whole different unintended meaning when you keep losing. But if you personally can find solace in those old championships then more power to ya! 👍

Yeah sure. That’s the same hollow record as the Herbert one with best stats first 2 yrs starting blah blah. Both are possible because of a technicality. Which, of course, was Mahomes sitting out his first year. If you took Mahomes’ 1st 5 Starting years it’s not even close. There’s a reason he has won 2 league MVPs and our guy hasn’t right? But that should not be the focus for Bills fans. Mahomes is great for KC. Awesome. Allen is very good as well. Let’s see if he can take that next step and win a 🏆

So let me follow this logic. The NFL and AFL winners had the right to call themselves world champions even though the two didn’t played and the NFL was the more established league. And this means, in your mind, the Bills have two wannabe ‘Superbowls’? Man I hope you don’t bring this line of thinking when discussing Bills football with others in person. As for me there’s no replacing the real thing no matter how much twisted logic gets applied. I want an actual Superbowl with a Lombardi Trophy 🏆

Really??? You’re counting AFL titles as equal to Superbowls? That’s like touting a USFL or XFL championship if those leagues happen to merge with the NFL at some point in the future. C’mon man. That’s straight crazy talk. Maybe that’s where your misplaced confidence is coming from. I don’t have much confidence that they could win multiple championships. I just hope that Allen and the team can learn from their mistakes and able to get it done ONE year. Probably in a year that KC is down. I mean, Mahomes can’t be in every AFCCG can he?

Is this hubris, delusional, or sarcasm? Most fans that follow the Bills just hope (wish) for ONE Superbowl win just to know what that feeling is like. For a franchise that hasn’t won a Superbowl ever don’t you think it’s unrealistic to expect multiple? Just because your bias for Allen won’t allow for the possibility of Mahomes being better? Mahomes can be the best right now or the best ever as long as the Bills get one. It isn’t a competition between Mahomes vs Allen. At least it shouldn’t be. It’s a team sport where success is measured by Superbowl wins. Let’s get that one. Bills fans deserve this.

In rushing attempts?

I’ve thought about this as well. Mahomes has had the best start of any qb in the history of the league in terms of championships and individual records. With or without Reid he was going to be elite and taken any team to contention and probably a title. So of course Bills fans will wonder what if. But I truly think even if the Bills didn’t make that trade they wouldn’t have taken Mahomes at 10. They didn’t have the coaching foresight to see the talent in him. Not many did otherwise he’d went #1.

Secure a wc berth in the playoffs to avoid Buffalo’s weather. It’s too much of an advantage for the opposition.

People forget that Montana won his first 2 superbowls before Rice got there. Between Brady and the real ‘Joe Cool’ it’s Montana all the way for me.

Wow I didn’t realize this. The same number of possessions huh? I must be watching a different game all these years.

Obviously winning can’t be clear if you lost. In future games with KC maybe committing to an effective running attack that could shorten the game would be more ideal than shooting it out. Limiting Mahomes’ possessions.

Bills lost so clearly didn’t work. 🤷‍♂️

Father Time will kick his ass…eventually

I did read your original post. That’s why I commented that making the actual pick is not strategically smart. Trading down is fine if you can gain from it. But to actually assume the risk isn’t smart. Edit: But this is the offseason so just chatting football is entertaining!

Well ya if we know in advance they’d win all their playoff games and get a championship then it doesn’t matter how the regular season ends as long as they make the playoffs. But the unknown is the beauty of sports. It makes winning that much more exhilarating and losing that much more devastating. I see where you’re coming from. All Bills fans want a championship and it’s frustrating when it doesn’t happen. No matter what I’ll always make time on game days to watch. 👍

If he’s that much in demand that ‘you knew you could instantly flip the player and make your team better’ wouldn’t it make more sense to trade that pick to those teams that want him? It would lessen your risk of wasting a pick if the ‘demand’ never materialized. Just spitballing down your rabbit hole.

Any choice that includes drafting a qb in the first round while having Allen in his prime deserves eyerolls.

Sure of course. Everyone can see Allen has hit his peak and will decline. Let’s look for his replacement now. 🙄

The most homers of fans would acknowledge this team has failed in the playoffs regardless of the reasons why. Some are just saying that doesn’t mean they can’t enjoy a great reason because of it. I mean 13-3 is still more enjoyable than 9-7 is it not? Even if both ends with divisional losses.

To your point, KC just signed Richie James from the Giants. He’ll flourish with Mahomes next season. You’d think with the relationship Daboll has with McD he’d be sending good talent this way. IE Toney now James. Allen is great but let’s not say he shouldn’t get any blame. As long as this team falls short of a championship there will be plenty of blame to pass around. Especially to the qb position, justifiably so.

Com’on. I’m probably more critical of Allen than most on here but to say that he hasn’t earned this standard is ridiculous. You can see the talent whenever he steps on the field. What I don’t agree with is some people calling him a generational talent. It’s hard for him to be that when there’s a guy in his generation that’s doing a lot more. Allen is an elite qb tho. #2 to only 1 guy. That alone justifies championship aspirations.

They won their first superbowl with Mahomes as a #2 as well. Balt was #1 and got upset by Tennessee.

The common denominator with these two teams is the makeup of their qb’s. Both guys that are relentless in their pursuit of being the best. Brady has done it for 20yrs and now that torched has been passed to Mahomes. I read a report that Mahomes is holding a qb/receiver camp right now with his receivers. Doing this at this moment in the offseason while his contemporaries are enjoying their downtime. Not everyone can commit this kind of dedication. But that’s what separates him and Brady from everyone else. It isn’t luck. Good! That kind of media dismissal did wonders for the Chiefs last season! Maybe it’ll have the same effect this year! 😂

Bills are a great regular season team! 😇

Yeah I’m not holding my breath about Mahomes having a rough year. Kelce is still his #1 like we both noted. I doubt Toney will even last a whole season with his injury history. They’ll just add a couple of whoever WRs in the draft/FA and make it work. KC will probably be in the AFCCG again. Let’s hope the Bills can find a way to meet them there!