Joe Ferguson forever

He was speaking to engineering students, many of whom are female. They just slogged thru 4 years of physics , chem, calculus etc. And he tells them to stay at home. He and anyone who listens to him are morons and tone deaf...

Didn't read about the doxxing but think it's fair to surmise Butler is persona non grata to Georgia Tech and KC. Just stupid. Nike , Puma and Adidas won't be calling.

It’s about justice.

Also, Trump can’t be at 2 trials at once.

amazing that the FEC is so weak. my wife wrote a check for a Tim Kaine event. His staff asked if she was a citizen. When we said no, they refused the check so I wrote it. remarkable that some can follow the law so closely and others shite on it.

We were talking about Roe. It's what the thread is about.

except the boeing exec had the power to improve quality. biden couldn't change a stacked SCOTUS which was another's doing.

splain please.

That would be the campaign admitting guilt. You're saying trump's personal money and his campaign are the same thing.

no, but booking a hush money payoff as a legal expense is. If I booked a cruise as a continuing medical expense but there was no actual CME available on the ship, that would be illegal, right? he used his own money protect his campaign. Not illegal unless it wasn't declared as such, which it wasn't.

This is how politics work. Both sides want to shape your vision. One side does it mostly with lies, some outrageous (eg Qanon) One side does it sometimes. One side is easily fooled. One is more analytical, generally speaking...see Pew.

my understanding is that it's biz fraud. i think they've proven that with cancelled checks and a note from weisenberg.

the point is that he was protecting the campaign. Was it 50/50? Doesn't matter if some of his motivation was the campaign. Interestingly, Melania's close aide quoted her with "I know who I married" in ref to the porn star fling. Hope Hicks also said this on the stand: But when asked if Trump was also worried about the story’s impact on the campaign, Hicks responded that everything they spoke about during that time was viewed through the lens of the campaign. Trump would often asking her, “How is it playing?” as a way of gauging how his appearances, speeches and policies were landing with voters, she said. Source AP.

the tune will be very different in that case. The demographics will explain it simply: As was the case in the 2018 midterms, voters with and without college degrees each accounted for roughly half of the Democratic Party’s voters in 2022 (51% held college degrees while 49% did not). By contrast, a majority of Republican voters in 2022 had no college degree (63%); a smaller share had a college degree or more (37%). This is similar to the shares of Republican voters with and without a college degree in 2018. White voters without college degrees made up a majority (54%) of Republican voters in 2022, compared with 27% of Democratic voters. Yet the share of Republican voters who are members of this group was down 4 points compared with the 2020 presidential election. Pew data

Which is similar if not identical to low information. They lack the tools to discern information from disinformation and a basic understanding of things like government and science.. They’re prey to the slickest information manipulators who purposely spread lies and falsehoods for their own benefit. It’s no accident that MAGA has targeted these folks. They’re very good at it. It’s been done for centuries. It usually starts with attacking the press and offering up a common enemy.

Just a bunch of ignorant people. Some of the same that believe the 2020 election was fraudulent. Or those that believe that vaccines are bad. These are low information, low capacity, easily fooled dolts. intellectual capacity is bell shaped in a population.. These are those at the bottom (somebody has to be). I suspect other than that, it's multifactorial: the timeline (as you suggest), a lack of understanding about how SCOTUS works, intellectual isolation ( they're surrounded by other dummies), a preconceived political bias, lack of curiosity, lack of tools/time to garner info etc. We need to remember the grade school level civics understanding within some groups. There are folks that can't name half the states and have never been outside their own state...These are some of them.

don't see the connection between this and a group of dummies. you mean you really think biden was responsible for overturning Roe? perhaps we need to run cartoons explaining it like MAGA does.

This 35% number keeps cropping up. hmm, that's the number representing trump's bedrock base. "I love the uneducated".

"Stand Back, Stand By" https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54359993

they are, on your side. 20 years ago, who woulda thought establishment voters would be considered liberals by their opponents. words mean nothing. truth is now plastic, sadly. and it's all by design.

we're already on opposite sides. we do what we can. will be attending a fundraiser for a D congressional candidate shortly. Let's hope elections remain our way of choosing leaders.

Uh huh. I don't desire a civil war but if it happens, we'll be on opposite sides. The most likely scenario involves trump losing or jailed. That would make you a rebel. Didn't go so well for them last time.

Is this the "royal we"? you are the king of trash.

Hair dye - No Grow a beard - yes but my wife doesn't like it when I do. Coup- didn't happen but was attempted

while being ignored, I'm receiving a great deal of attention from you. Not really desired but hey, it's a forum. 16% of my posts mention trump. That's much less than the media percentage of stories pertaining to him. Good for me!