Joe Ferguson forever

nope. not what it means. Try again grasshopper...you took me away from a thread on spaghetti O's with or without meatballs. Can't get this song out of my mind....

What happened to the franco american spaghetti- the strings instead of the O's? I'm partial to the spaghetti like stuff. Call me a traditionalist. Always with a piece of bread, butter and peanut butter. Still have it at home for a comfort food binge. But sadly they're the O's...No meatballs

Think about it in a population health context. Hundreds of millions of people were infected and by your reasoning treated with it. 1% of 100 mil is 1 mil, so no big deal right? C'mon. Give it up....

Have you ever drank Dixie? Didn't need a name change to go out of business.

any idea on how long the AOA has recommended close f/u of all patients on HCQ? It's a question you'd get on a 2nd year pharmacy test in med school. Kind of a cool thing that it changes eyes and skin pigments through melanin. But you wouldn't be interested....musta got that question wrong.... The rest is pointless ranting. Look for some windmills to joust with.

don't have an account. musk is almost as big a conman as trump. i'll bet he'll get his comeuppance too.

yup. maybe we should do an analysis on MAGA lies and blatant misrepresentation of facts posted here daily. Do they actually check the stories and still lie or are they too lazy to check them out?

So you're a fan of ape face?

They did do some damage: A meta‐review 21 of systematic reviews and updated meta‐analysis concluded that treatment with HCQ and CQ with or without azithromycin did not reduce mortality in COVID‐19 infection but was associated with a higher risk of adverse events. However, despite the lack of clear evidence of efficacy and presence of valid concerns regarding safety, HCQ continues to be used widely in the management of COVID‐19 infection. (from my first linked paper) Keep digging "Doc". you and they were wrong then and you're wrong now. You've beaten that broken drum long enough.

Great. Perhaps you can incorporate that fact into your thinking. It's why mainstream docs don't prescribe unproven drugs. btw, do you imagine congressman McCormick explaining this to ER pts, ensuring a pretreatment eye exam and following up on the treatment? I sure don't.

yes, i just wrote that.

meta review on hcq for covid. doc and nc should look up "meta analysis". this one was limited to prospective studies (which are the most powerful). https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8420202/#:~:text=A meta‐review 21 of,higher risk of adverse events. "Doc" if you read the AOA piece, you'd realize that all new patients should be screened thru a thorough eye exam as those with preexisting disease have a higher risk. You do discuss potential side effects when administering drugs, right? To not is begging for a malpractice case. here's a more recent one: https://ascpt.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/cts.13468

HCQ is a useful drug especially in rheumatology. the benefits often outweigh the risks. Find a review paper on its efficacy in covid and we can talk.

here's some further info on the safety of HCQ. Most patients see eye professionals for regular checks ups to ensure catching this debilitating complication: https://eyewiki.aao.org/Hydroxychloroquine_Toxicity#:~:text=The early signs of hydroxychloroquine,and hyperpigmentation surrounding the fovea. You'd expect a doctor to know this stuff...

There is no such thing as a “safe” drug. All have risks. All have potential side effects. That’s why we have prescriptions…. I stopped reading after the 1st study was withdrawn and the second came out of Turkey.

You probably think this is clever as well. It’s not.

You’re easily amused.

Dead men don’t speak.

He is. From MAGA s who might elect trump again

the word used was "discredit" (perhaps you should watch your own links) and was used by the CNN anchor. No one said "suppress". None of the words used as descriptors in the MAGA articles are close to equivalent to "discredit". But you and they knew that....It's kinda like when a reputable news agency labels a group as terrorists and the fringe sites call the same group "freedom fighters".

No one in this interview said “quash” or “squash “. She was asked about an intention to discredit the lab leak theory. Why wouldn’t there be? Scientists disagree, often. Some are passionate. And why would the director of the cdc need anyone’s permission to publicly dispute it…well, maybe the prez permission but guess who that was.

Re1-4, fauci pointed out that the cdc, not he, made the social distancing guidelines. They were based on the belief, at the time and based on other virus behavior, that Covid was primarily spread by droplets and not aerosol. That was incorrect but science sorted it out in its normal systematic, analytical manner. It took some time as it always does. The best path imo with icu’s filling up and 1000’s dying per day was with an abundance of caution. Certainly Doc felt the urgency given his reasoning for the rush to widely utilize any possible treatment. re #5. See above. He didn’t write the guidelines. That question should be asked of the cdc. I suspect they employ social scientists and economists…

it is about fauci cuz it's about science....

cuz it's the same drug. For rosacea, I think metronidazole is a safer, better drug. Let's say you go to your doc today and tell him you're worried about a heart attack. you have a family history, you're fat and you smoke. And he says "let's put you on a beta blocker". And the smart guy that you are, you ask "what's the evidence for that?". And he says, "there isn't much for primary prevention but tons for secondary prevention (post heart attack). And then you ask "what about statins?". He says , yes tons of data, hundreds of studies". And you say "never mind, I've heard bad things about statins....". the downside was that it didn't work, dummy

So we shoulda tried bleach and perhaps Sevin dust… it kills parasites too….and wait, I thought the whole pandemic was just a charade…