Billz4ever

And? We beat them last year too. Different story when the chips were down, right? Poor D coaching decisions cost us the game.

If they play like that against the Chiefs, they will lose. That's just a plain and simple fact.

The Packers were fortunate? What...that we played pretty bad in the second half? That performance on both sides of the ball the 2nd half isn't going to get it done against good teams. The Packers are not a good team right now.

And against a good team, that performance isn't going to get it done. The Packers are not a good team right now and that win was ugly.

Load up on the run? How about simply not playing Nickel against a team with a less than stellar receiving corp? This game was a missed FG and a close OPI call from being tied.

I'm sure you're not since you'll just pretend you never said it or try and explain how it's "different" this time. I'm counting on it.

The Aaron Rodgers and Packers that have lost 4 in a row and are 3-5 on the season. Shouldn't have to be said, but they aren't a good team right now. We were literally playing against special teamers at LB the second half.

You just said, it didn't matter if it was run or pass, so whether it's the run tonight or playing the wrong D against the pass against KC and Mahomes in 13 seconds, you can bet your butt this will be thrown in your face.

So according to you if Rodgers was ripping off those yards it wouldn't matter because they didn't score. Terrible logic because against better teams, they would've scored and just to prove my point this thread us being bookmarked to be later revisited. I can't wait.

And yet AGAIN you are talking about the outcome rather than the ease with which they moved the ball. You have the luxury of knowing the ultimate outcome, but that was ridiculous what we witnessed tonight.

My mistake, not lukewarm. Frigid like a Bills game in January.

Muted for being clueless but keep making excuses for a defense that didn't adapt and was scared of that receiving Corp. I'm sure you were saying it wasn't the ridiculous play calling that led to the 13 seconds fiasco too.

What kind of lukewarm IQ must you have to keep responding to someone who has literally told you that you are ignored? If that was what was working for them you'd better bet your butt they would, especially when the yardage they were ripping off was the same as pass plays would be. You must have been watching a different game.

Once again you are comparing the outcome of the drives instead of focusing on how easy they moved the ball. Not even remotely the same thing at all.

Mahomes can make those throws and run the ball. The D was lackluster tonight and the D play calling did not match what the O was doing. You play to the strengths and weaknesses of the other team. GBs receivers are not good yet we were treating them like it was Diggs on their side. Their formations repeatedly showed pass and that's what you play for. If you have the better secondary, you make their receivers beat you, not play nickel and let their RBs rip off runs that were equivalent to long passes. That's playing scared instead of playing to your strengths and daring the other team to put their weakness up against a stronger secondary. I see you've quit trying to debate on substance and decided to switch to ad hominem. Welcome to ignore.

At what point in any of that did you think they were passing? Their formations screamed run and if you're that scared of THAT receiving corps, who's essentially a bunch of nobodies, why are you coaching in this league? Yes, it was strange and seemed like they weren't too concerned about the clock, but what is our coaching staff so afraid of? Their receivers are their weakness. If they are effectively running, make those receivers beat you. No need to play nickel D when the formation screams run just on the off chance that one play they go play action. Have some faith in the secondary against a weak receiving Corp.

And that same pass is something that Mahomes can do as well. If the D plays like they did tonight the next time they play KC, we will lose. Let's leave it at that.

You're lumping multiple drives together where they either didn't convert or came away with a fg. Bottom line is the run game was just as effective as a pass game there and the defense did not adjust accordingly. If the offense's weakness is their receiving Corp, you make THEM beat you and plug up run. You shouldn't have to play nickel defense every down if the receivers are the weakness of the other team.

If they are gashing the D that is no different than running effective pass plays. You adapt to what the offense is doing. If you are letting them rip off huge chunks of yards on the ground, you might as well make their receivers beat you since the receiving core is GBs big weakness right now.

What they were giving up on the ground, they might as well have been giving up through the air since the yardage gained was pass like yardage. We knew they were running but the D still couldn't stop it. That is rigid play calling and shows a lack of ability to adapt to what the offense is doing. The play calling tonight was questionable on both sides of the ball and the Bills won because they are simple a much better team than GB, but bad execution and play calling kept this game closer than it should've been. This game should've played out how the Pittsburgh game did the second half.

You can claim they would've done this or that, but the fact is they were getting gouged and that was typical of Frazier not being able to adapt to what the opposing offense is doing. And if you know you're down those players, you must adapt. Letting the other team rip off 10 , 20 yard runs is effectively the same as a passing game. You tell the D line to play the run, not the pass. It seemed like our D line was playing the pass all night. It seemed as though our D, especially D line, was playing the pass when you knew they were going to keep running the ball. I blame the D play calling.

No, I'm sure the Pack knew they weren't going to win, but to give up those kind of chunks of yards on the ground against a team that thinks they can play nickel D and still stop the run, that was not a good showing.

That's only because they didn't execute on those drive ending plays. That doesn't change the fact a team with a poor receiving core right now was able to gouge our D for way too many big plays on the ground.

He was in no-man's land and you know he wanted to run, but was conflicted. To me, that's from being told not to run. We've gotten to where we are letting Josh be Josh. Don't screw up the recipe.

Yep, said earlier that if you sew that seed of doubt in the QB'S mind and make him question if he should run when the run was there , that's their result. Let Josh be Josh.