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He has dropped several of passes he should have caught this season. And he was routinely getting manhandled at the line.

I don’t understand what game some of you were watching. Outside of the first drive, Allen was great. The deep touchdown to Hollins was on a rope, the fourth down TD had to be peppered past two layers of defenders, and he bought time repeatedly. He was 68% passing with 270+ yards and 2 TD’s after the first drive. Go sleep the alcohol off, you’re drunk.

Outside of the first drive, Allen was great tonight. That TD to Hollins. Incredible. The numerous times he changed the play because he read the defense and gained positive yards - nice. The TD on 4th down inbetween two defenders (in front). Beautiful. Another great performance for naught.

When did it matter most? You mean the 4th down when he had 2 free rushers coming at him and he still hit Kincaid in the hands??

Yeah, it does kind of suck watching him go up and fight for contested balls (like on the INT). In a way he is doing what we were told Coleman would do, but ALSO having the speed element. That being said, you compared him to Samuel - which I think is a good comparison. And just like we could figure out how to use Samuel, I really don’t think we would have used Worthy to his potential. But even if he was a bust - giving KC the player they want does not sit well with me.

he may get better. As time goes on, he may develop more skills. But as of right now, this moment, Coleman just isn’t that good. He cannot separate, at all, and even when he does get the ball thrown to him, he only catches it about half the time. but again, I don’t think this should be a Coleman versus Worthy debate. I genuinely don’t think Worthy fits our offense. The true tragedy, is that the Chiefs wanted something. They wanted a certain player. And we accommodated that request. We gave them the player that they wanted. That is just beyond fathomable to my brain. your biggest competitor, the one who has continuously beat you, and made better personnel decisions, and has pushed you out of the playoffs year after year… They want a certain player. And you trade your pick to them so they can get the guy that they want!?!? I just can never get behind that. and it has nothing to do with Coleman or worthy.

there are a few people in this thread, making the case that we were simply out executed. and while there is definitely some truth to that, it’s completely ignoring the fact that as coaches, your job is to make decisions based on who your players are and what you know is likely to happen if the other team does X, Y or Z. Number one, Brady called the same old tired fourth down play he has gone to all year. Spags knew exactly what was coming. Second, Spags loves to bring pressure on Key downs. That is what he is known for. With that being the case, you need a quick beater. A play requiring picks and crossers take too much time. Spags knew this. He completely outcoached Brady on that fourth down. so yes, wow players still need to execute, the coaches failed in putting them into a position where they can execute given their limitations

Outside of the first drive of the game, Josh Allen was great. No idea what you mean. That 4th down TD was an amazing throw inbetween defenders. The TD to Hollins was on a rope. The deep pass to Hollins to set up the next TD was incredible. etc

Brady tends to go to the same well over and over again. And I don’t just mean the QB sneak. That 4th down play call is a variation of the same play we have ran on 4th down all freaking year. Chiefs knew it was coming. It was the same freaking play we ran on 4th down against them in the first matchup, just flipped.

He is an amazing defensive coordinator. The Chiefs knew so many of our plays, inside and out, that many of them had zero chance from the get-go. Especially in the first half.

because I follow the head coach hiring cycle every year. I guess you could argue that we could find some diamond in the rough that would be become an amazing coach, but in all likelihood that’s not going to happen.

literally right now. I think he deserves far more the blame the McDermott. At this point. you just can’t be throwing away first round picjs like he does. And the straw that broke the camels back in my opinion, was trading with KC. That was just truly freaking awful.

No one better is available.

It’s clear as day why Allen didn’t throw to him. It would have been a bang-bang play at the first down line and no telling if we get it. Chiefs had 3 defenders guarding the LOS. The defender closer to the camera in this picture even moves down closer to Shakir.

It was like Brady didn’t have access to see the field. He apparently couldn’t see it wasn’t working.

There were a Chiefs would have met him right at the line to gain. It would have been a bang-bang play. Maybe he gets it over, maybe he doesn’t. And yes, Torrence whiffed

Yes, that was one bad play. Kincaid is a complete disappointment. But Brady had repeated mistakes the whole game. Theyre both true.

Huh? You and I are both right, we are just describing different parts of the play. Shakir’s orbit was the 3rd or 4th read on the play. It was the built in check down. The play was for the crossers on the pick. We have run it numerous times this year on 4th downs.

it’s not about US having Worthy. I don’t even want him. It’s about keeping him from KC. add McDuffie to the list

Ban.

29 points be damned. - How many times did he watch KC stuff our QB sneak and then he continued to do it!?!? Over and over and over. KC is coached extremely well and knew exactly how to stop it. They blockaded that right side that Josh likes to go to it and he still went to it repeatedly. - Know that play-action roll out play that KC loves where Mahomes can either throw it to the RB or keep it? Yeah, we ran that twice all game. Both times picked up big yards. Never saw it again. - He and Kromer never adjusted the line (or the play-calling) to deal with the pass rush. The final 4th down call was a pick play with crossers that REQUIRES 2-3 seconds to get guys open. Spags knew this and sent the house. Brady apparently didn’t know this!? - Cook didn’t touch the ball once that last drive. And it wasn’t a time issue (we had a full 3 minutes). - A low percentage fade to Coleman on 3rd down with the game on the line? Flame away, but I miss Daboll. I always felt confident with Daboll that we were going to drive the field at the end of games. The only concern I had was the defense. Daboll adjusted mid-game.

The fact that Allen got that to him, while being pressured by 8 blitzers, and our first round pick TE doesn’t catch it? Brutal

Not hard. Pro’s catch passes like that all the time. And harder. He is a very mediocre player and not remotely worth the first rounder we spent on him.

Very big disappointment

He had no choice. But he STILL got it to Kincaid and he flat out dropped it.