SaulGoodman

Lol. Fixed it.

Lol. Why lie? There's a prediction thread for every single Bills game. I'm guessing you're aware of that. https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/252650-divisional-round-chefs-v-bills-predict-the-score/ Almost every poster predicted a Bills win. Most by double digits. Many predicted a blowout.

Everybody said the same thing heading into last postseason. "Kelce's washed up, the WRs suck, KC's just not good enough this year...." Then suddenly they were. And Kelce was excellent throughout the entire postseason, including maybe his best game ever in Baltimore. After doing virtually nothing in his last three regular season games.

Lol. You might want to bump the prediction thread and take another look.

I’m fine with that. I’m not making excuses. They lost the game. Why can't Bills fans do the same when they lose?

They weren't a different team in the postseason? Everyone but you seems to disagree. It's pretty funny to see you making excuses in a thread created to make fun of excuses. Your fans were predicting a Super Bowl and a comfortable win over KC.....til after the game. Suddenly the legend of Bernard grew to Ray Lewis proportions.

It's a little extreme to say they only care about the postseason, but it was no coincidence that they flipped a switch and transformed into a different team when it mattered last year. They're also missing their top two WRs (including one who was on pace for a monster year) and two of their top defensive players, but I don't think many are using that as an excuse. I do remember a lot of people blaming an injury to an average LB for a playoff loss though...

I haven’t said this, but frankly, KC fans should be. Because if the roles were reversed, every non-Chiefs fan would be screaming about late game-changing calls and their star DT being held all game long without a single flag.

Happens all the time. There were numerous screenshots last year of players being lined up offside without drawing a flag. The reason it almost never happened before last year is the league made a point to enforce it, thanks to the Eagles' "tush push." The idea was to make sure O-linemen were lining up properly. Very few WRs were/are called for it.

The Bills won the last regular season matchup due to a late, obscure penalty that had never been flagged in Andy Reid's 25 year career.

I can see why someone might say this, but what I don’t understand is the idea that teams with multiple losses, vs weaker schedules, have been better. Is it more impressive to lose than win a close game? I think people focus too much on numbers like PPG. A much more meaningful stat is points per possession, and the Chiefs have generally done well there, even amidst the injuries. For example, 27 points vs the Raiders may not be eye-popping, but they averaged 3.4 points per drive, which is very good. They also have the best success rate in the league and the best 3rd down conversion rate in 13 years. It’s not an explosive offense but it’s still an efficient one. Which should only improve with Hopkins. LT is shaky, but they’ve been overcoming weak tackle play for years.

You're comparing a team that feasted on a weak schedule to a b2b SB winner that's won 15 straight against the best teams in the league? Lol Incredible how people continue to doubt the Chiefs every year.

Like I said, it was the first time it's been called in Reid's 25 year career, and it's something that is ignored constantly. What was silly was the response to the late hit out of bounds in the '22 AFCC. Mahomes was knocked down a full two yds out of bounds. A truly unignorable call, yet NFL fans lost their minds. Let's face it....people just aren't objective on this issue.

Unignorable? Lol. It was literally the first time that had been called in Andy Reid's career. It goes ignored all the time. In fact, I could find hundreds of examples.

The refs will call penalty after penalty until they get what they “want?” You guys really buy into this conspiracy don’t you? Why did they call an extremely uncommon and devastating penalty on KC in a crucial matchup vs the Bills last year?

The penalty numbers may not prove anything, but they definitely don't help the KC bias argument. That's actually the point I've tried to make. Focusing solely on one call near the end of a 60-min game is silly. Which team benefited more from officiating throughout the course of 60 minutes? The game that started the "KC gets all the calls" frenzy was the '22 AFC title game vs the Bengals. People lost their minds when a defender was flagged for a late hit after shoving Mahomes to the ground two yds out of bounds. Earlier in the same game, a KC TD was wiped off the board and a Burrow INT was negated by penalty. Aside from the fact that the late hit was clearly the right call (and so egregious that they had no choice but to call it), do you think that call had a greater impact on the outcome than erasing a TD and INT? Would the game have even been close enough for it to matter if those calls weren't made? Of course the controversy continued in the SB vs the Eagles. Now, even though rules experts defended the holding call, I'd agree that the timing was very fortuitous for the Chiefs. But if they hadn't wiped out a defensive TD earlier in the half (on a very questionable call), would it have come down to that? I read recently that KC's had more TDs erased by penalty than any team during the Mahomes era. Even if they're not #1, they're definitely way up there. For awhile it seemed to happen every game. Last postseason, they were the only team to have a TD erased and it happened multiple times.

It’s easy to say that, but no one ever has numbers to back it up. As for Taylor… if anything, he’s proof that there’s no agenda to help the Chiefs. I think he was penalized more times in half a season last year than in four years in Jacksonville. Nothing about his alignment or habits changed when he arrived in KC, yet he was targeted relentlessly starting in week 1. Then the rate of flags slowed down, and people claimed conspiracy. So was there a conspiracy to help Jacksonville?

Remember the Dee Ford call that cost them a SB appearance in Mahomes' first season? Shortly before that, they called Chris Jones for roughing for tapping Brady's shoulder pad. In the 2020 SB, flags were falling like confetti. Last year, SF drew a flag on 3rd down that gave them a fresh set of downs in OT. In the 2nd half of the SB vs the Eagles, a defensive score was wiped off the board on a very questionable call. The list of late calls that went against the Chiefs in the regular season would be a mile long, including the call on Toney last year vs your Bills. Imagine if the roles were reversed and KC got that call and the win. Your fanbase would've gone ballistic and claimed fix. But when it benefits one's own team....crickets.

Have you ever considered that your perception might be skewed because you’re looking for it? Case in point…the ATL game a month ago. KC was flagged three times on the Falcons’ last drive, at least one of which was an awful call. The refs almost carried Atlanta into the end zone for the winning TD. The fan reaction to the game? “Did you see that missed call on the 2nd to last drive?! Obvious fix!” It’s comical that haters pretend to have objectivity on this.

No, they definitely don't always end up on the positive side of officiating. They've been one of the most penalized teams in the league since Mahomes took over. And even if you want to focus solely on late-game calls, I could list numerous late calls that went against them, including in the playoffs. The ref narrative is a reach to discredit KC/Mahomes. Nothing more, nothing less.

So they'll take TDs off the board and negate turnovers, but won't call holding?

KC was also the only team to have a TD taken off the board last postseason, and it happened twice. Overall, they’ve been one of the most penalized teams in the league since Mahomes became the starting QB. The logical conclusion is that refs are inconsistent. Which everyone already knows, but it tends to be forgotten whenever a call goes the Chiefs’ way.

Taylor was penalized relentlessly last season after never having an issue in 4 years in Jacksonville. And the takeaway is that the league has a different set of rules for KC? Lol. Apparently they had a different set for Jacksonville.

Mahomes has had mediocre/bad defense for most of his career, including an awful run defense for years.

There might be a possibility of that, but lately I’ve been hearing there’s a good chance he’ll be back before the end of the regular season.