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I think this is part of it as well. If Josh had been given MVP last year (personally I think McCaffrey should have got it), then the groundswell would be massively behind Lamar right now. More than it is.

This year, I would. I don't think the defense is good enough for a Super Bowl appearance, let alone victory. They're more likely to see the Bills rolled in the Divisional or Championship game. That and/or more coaching issues under pressure. Josh getting the MVP will be the least he deserves after he's, in all likelihood, let down again.

I'd still prefer them to the Bengals. Though would prefer the Broncos to both.

Thanks for this. So FOX have the frontrunner in the NFC South but CBS have the frontrunner in the AFC play off battle. Whether the injury bitten Saints or secured top seed Chiefs will care that much is something else.

Josh was tapping himself on the head after a touchdown too - think it was Cooper's rather than Coleman's. Hollins march alongside it is quite something though!

I know Kurt Warner brought up this argument before, but glad others are too. And Josh missing a game of snaps due to being benched in blowouts… https://www.sportsgrid.com/nfl/video/josh-allen-leads-mvp-odds-over-lamar-jacksonamid-nfl-controversy

This will be a game where both teams run the ball into their own endzone.

Logically, I would have thought the story of the AFC play offs would make more sense, rather than randomly putting Browns-Ravens on Saturday night. As suggested yesterday, have Bengals-Steelers as the early game, followed by Jets-Dolphins, then Chiefs-Broncos on the Sunday. I suppose the risk would be the Bengals and Dolphins both losing, leaving Denver with nothing to play for. But if that happened they could have still promoted Browns-Ravens, as the Ravens would need to win to claim the North.

Second year in a row it's happened to the Bills. In January 2024 the Steelers played on Saturday in week 18, whilst the Bills played Sunday night. And last year it was a game that mattered to the Bills - if they had lost, then the Dolphins would have claimed the East.

Since when has the NFL been fair? All they care about is ratings. Giants-Eagles could get moved for Barkley's record attempt but I can't see Bills-Patriots being given the same courtesy. Who would want to watch it?

https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/reports/snap-counts/qb.php If I’m reading this right, up to last week Lamar had 955 snaps compared to Josh’s 907. Think I’m right in saying this will widen after this week’s games.

Guess the argument will be the Bills can bench their starters should they want to, whilst the Bengals/Dolphins/Broncos will have to play theirs.

Maybe. Rams-Seahawks will be a primetime game, but only if the Commanders and 49ers both lose this week. If one of them wins, it opens up a slot there too. The AFC play off path may make most sense. If the Bengals win they can promote Denver on Sunday. If the Steelers (and Jets) win, promote Baltimore

That’s true, though I’m not sure if the networks will care, as they can focus on the AFC North in the early slot and NFC South in the late. I’m also not sure which game they’d move to Saturday late otherwise. Giants at Eagles to see if Barkley gets the record against his old team? They’re not on contention for the one seed. Though if the Steelers lose, that kills any drama when it comes to the third seed. It really needs to be played alongside Browns-Ravens.

If both lose it dooms the Broncos game, though admittedly I can’t see that happening.

Colts are gone. Broncos win and in, Dolphins in with a victory coupled with a Broncos loss, Bengals in with a win and defeats for the Broncos and Dolphins.

A valid argument, but how much game time has Jackson missed in comparison? Has he been benched at all in blow outs?

My predictions: Saturday late - Chiefs at Broncos Saturday night - Seahawks at Rams Sunday night - Vikings at Lions NFC South games to be moved to Sunday late. AFC North games to be promoted in the early window. To the earlier argument, the Chiefs can ‘choose’ to have the Broncos make the play offs whatever time they’re playing.

Not sure if it's a thing now, but it was shared between Peyton Manning and Steve McNair in 2003.

Going for it on 4th down instead of kicking the FG looks even more stupid from the Packers now.

I kind of hope it isn't shared. I think I'd prefer Lamar to win outright than Josh having co-MVP attached to him. Cheapens it. But that might just be me!

Dolphins-Browns is much the same.

What on Earth are the Dolphins doing with these challenges? Using up timeouts unnecessarily.

They win out and the Broncos lose to the Chiefs.

The Packers are looking very oridinary for a 11-4 side.