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So then why don’t people want to change that instead of wasting Allens talents? How many years wasting Allens prime do we have to continue. I’m not exactly sour on Allen, just genuinely puzzled why this team can’t get over the hump. Allen is a gifted gifted QB with some decent talent surrounding him. Just don’t understand how an average talent QB like Brady can do it while Allen is spinning tires.

So McD is the issue and not Allen then right?

If Allen doesn’t have an issue reading defenses, then why did our offense only score 12 points against the Bengals in the playoffs?

I mean this is a fair take, but don’t other Super Bowl champion QBs also have to play hard teams to get there? So what sets them apart. What seems the most odd is how an unathletic Brady can win 7. What is the secret sauce? It must be that he was just elite in the game film to diagnose defenses.

The only holes in his game is between his head. He has all the gifts in the world to be a Super Bowl champ. Honestly if I were Allen, I’d be sitting down with Brady and trying to get to the level of reading defenses that he was at.

How does one become the best at reading defenses? Magic? Game film review?

Um you realize he beat KC in the Super Bowl right?

I do not think Kelly was smart enough. You could argue he didn’t have the elite attributes either. Allen has a cannon, he is extremely athletic. He seems smart enough. So the really only other thing that could make me think why we haven’t won a Super Bowl is because he doesn’t want it enough in the film room to be the surgeon needed to win.

No, this is a why aren’t we winning super bowls thread.

Because Brady wanted it more than Rivers did. Brady studied the film harder than anyone I know. He was a surgeon on the field. That is what it takes to be great. Doing the little things despite not having the raw elite skill set.

It’s a relevant question because we are comparing situations. If you don’t like it, don’t post in this thread.

Then how did a non athletic QB like Brady do it 7 times? Phillip Rivers did not have the physical gifts needed to win a Super Bowl. Allen does and still isn’t doing it.

He never really had an elite team. The organization during his tenure was bad at best. Belichick is a defensive coach?

Why, it’s an honest discussion. Seriously, Brady wasn’t athletic at all compared to Josh, and yet he still managed to win the big games. Why? Was it because he put in more time on the field to learn the ins and outs?

I want to spin this off from the Josh is lazy thread, and really debate this at face value. Let’s look at other QBs and their “work ethic” “talent abilities” and compare them to get a better idea of why. Let’s start with Tom Brady. Everyone here knows that Tom Brady is one of the least athletic QBs and yet he always had solid statistics and always knew where to place the ball. Everyone here knows that Josh Allen is one of the most athletic QBs. Josh has admitted he isn’t big into game film. But the more you dig into what it takes to be great, the more concerning that seems to be. How is it that Tom Brady can win so many super bowls with lower tier athleticism and arm strength and yet Josh Allen with his superior skill set has been unable to win even 1 Super Bowl? Tom Brady never really had a true #1 WR for an extended period of time outside of Moss, and yet he still always managed to keep the chains moving and put up points enough to win games. Josh Allen has had a true #1 WR for an extended period of time Diggs, and yet still unable to get over the hump. So I think questions around Allen’s “laziness” is warranted. Why should an elite talented QB be struggling more than a non elite talented QB? The only real difference is football IQ and studying the game to the point were you can attack and become a master despite not having elite traits. Maybe I’m wrong in this thinking, and others can chime in. But things do seem to not add up.

This place is nothing but a happy shinny people music video Bills addition. You can’t even be critical without calls for banning or being placed on ignore. From what I’ve seen, I’m not sold on Allen being the hardest worker in the QB world. Relying on talent only gets you so far, and it’s partially why we haven’t won a super bowl. To be the best, you have to want it more than anyone else.

Well now we know why Matt got cut!! Allen still mad he lost in pickle ball to his wife.

But he wins Super Bowls so I think most people give him a pass.

I guess this is what they mean by Josh being lazy? Doing all these commercials, golf, social events. Rather than dedicating more time to getting better on the field?

Let’s just assume that Beane isn’t holding the Bills back, then who is? The coaches? The players? If it’s the players, why? Not enough talent? Or not executing schemes properly? Is that because of a lack of talent or not very good coaching? If it’s the players, then isn’t Beane ultimate responsible for bringing them on this team for McD to coach up?

I never said I was perfect. All I’m doing is trying to hold this organization accountable. At the end of the day not winning Super Bowls has to fall on someone. How many years do Beane and McD get, honest question? Why aren’t we winning Super Bowls? Don’t tell me because football is hard, we no longer employee Jauron.

It’s passing the buck in the sense that it’s just empty words. What will they do to ensure it doesn’t happen again? It’s just passing the buck into the wind. If Beane would have just said, we made a terrible mistake and that it’s inexcusable and to hold himself accountable that would be great. Maybe he will have enough decency to resign and tell the fan base he failed to accomplish what he set out to do if they don’t win the super bowl this year. I respect that more than anything.

If Ford does become all pro (doubt it), who is to say he also wasn’t given enough time to develop? Sounds like something GMs say to pass the buck.

But can Buechele play the Ukulele?