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This is true, but if you had to prioritize one, which one do you prioritize? Like I’m happy the Bills are in Buffalo, but at the same time, I’m much much much more happy about winning and dominating the competition. It’s not really that terrible. There are some fans like me where winning is the priority, everything else is secondary or tertiary. Fans that prioritize winning take games personally and want accountability on all fronts so that we stop losing. It’s a different type of fandom, which is why I divided it up.

So you don’t generally get overly emotional if the Bills lose a game, or if they don’t win a Super Bowl in a particular year? So not much slighted at coaching mistakes or management decisions? You just turn on the game and fully go in knowing that football will be played and you just digest it for what it is? I kind of wish I could enjoy game day like that, but it just isn’t possible for me. It’s winning or being upset and trying to understand why we lost and how to get better to the point to where we lose less and less.

This is also a fair point, and I understand this as I’m from the WNY region. But at some point the pain of ineptitude begins to eat away at your Bills blood. At least it has begun to do that with me. I don’t think I could ever fully quit the Bills either, but my caring levels have taken a hit recently because I just can’t understand wanting to be a fan in what appears to be perpetual ineptitude or players not caring as much as the fans do. It makes you start questioning the spirt of the game, and it begins to feel fake. I don’t want that, because the moment to where the perceived “fakeness” grows to an unsustainable point, I just don’t see how the love for the professional league can keep alive. Football isn’t really an entertainment to me, it’s a way of life to dominate the competition. To win and to be the best for the spirit of competition.

This is a fair take, and I appreciate your input. Some people will view this as a troll thread, but I’m genuinely interested to understand why people are generally fans. Especially knowing and participating in all the terrible years of ineptitude we’ve been through. But my question to you is, why not us? Why not the Bills? Eventhough less than 20% of the league hasn’t won a Super Bowl, why can’t we become one of those successful franchises that have won multiple championships? Is it because our owners have been largely too inept or unwilling to spend money to acquire the talent needed? Pegulas seem to be willing to spend all the money needed, so why are we still struggling? That must mean it is because they have hired people that are too incompetent to bring in enough talent to win a championship or coaches to teach the talent enough to win a championships or a combination of both. Or it could just mean the players or coaches don’t really care enough, but which again reflects back on management and ownership on not hiring the proper people to win. At some point as a fan who cares about winning over entertainment, you begin to ask hard questions as to why we are not winning. Looking for ways to win it all, and questioning other fans or players about not caring enough to want to win. We already have Josh Allen, I don’t understand why we can’t get over the hump. The hardest piece has already been found, why can’t management make it work?

You play how you practice. If you can’t take practice seriously, it will eventually bleed over into game day.

Lol what other options should be included? Most people are either a fan because they want to win, or simply just to be entertained on game day and winning is secondary. Just like how players seem to feel like winning is secondary and the money is the priority.

Sometimes I feel like the coaches and players do not care about the game of football and winning as much as the fans do. A lot of these players simply enter the league to collect a high paying job and playing a sport they love is 2nd place. Some fans love it for the simplicity of being entertained, even if they don’t win. It’s something to do on Sunday to pass the time and enjoy the community bond. As a fan of anything in life, I’m competitive, I just want to be dominant and the best I can possibly be at anything I do. Sure some entertainment does come from it, but it’s not the priority, its a byproduct of just wanting to win it all. I think fans like me will eventually lose interest at some point and revert back to more “pure” sport competitions that still have the spirit of winning and dominating and not something to just go through the motions to collect a check. I think it is why a lot of fans enjoy more college and HS sporting events than professional events. As a fan of the Bills, do you take it to personally like I do? Does being a perennial loser eat away at your fandom? Especially knowing that some players just seem to not really care about winning? I don’t think it’s the losing so much that bothers me (it does, but that isn’t the heart wrenching part of being a Bills fan). It’s possibly knowing that players aren’t giving 100% to win because they don’t care as much as fans do. Which sometimes gives off the impression that the NFL is fake or not worthy of following anymore. I’ve been a Bills fan all my life, and it’s sometimes really disappointing. Especially when you know you have an elite talent at QB that doesn’t come around very often. Then you begin to wonder if the team will ever win, and then you start questioning is it because of incompetence or just going through the motions of collecting money. Bills fans that are just in it for the entertainment likely don’t take the game as personally as I and other Bills fans do that prioritize winning above entertainment. That would explain why some fans lash out more often than other fans do. Then you start questioning each others fandoms and it spirals into a mess. It would be nice to have some of y’all to discuss how you feel about all of this.

If our D somehow manages to collapse this year, I just don’t see how McD wouldn’t be in the hot seat. It’s crazy to me that the owners basically seemed unconcerned and wrote a blank check and hitched their wagons without better supporting evidence.

Officially concerned. It’s just a preseason game, I understand that, but how this game unfolded had a flavor to it that made it so off putting. It was wretched, and it felt exactly like a Bengals hangover. The same disarray and complete flatness just should not happen, even for a preseason game. We got punched in the mouth, AGAIN! Things have been off since the Miami playoff game. I have no idea what it is, can’t put my finger on it. While I still feel like we will squeeze out a playoff appearance, the vibe seems to have shifted and we’ve gone stale. Wasting Josh Allen. It’s partly due to McD and partly due to Beane not bringing in enough talent.

I just don’t want to waste Josh’s talents. I want to do everything possible to give him time in the pocket, if not I want a 1B WR over a mlb. I don’t know, I just want to win, I’m so tired of being disappointed.

Torrence and Kincaid are the bright spots thus far. We will need upgrades to LT and RT next year. Personally I’d go LT,RT,MLB next draft.

Coping mechanisms

“Talent” doesn’t get rolled the way we do sometimes. People give Beane credit for all this supposed talent, but I’m not seeing the desired results that we should expect.

I’ve been one of the hardest on Beane. I know yesterday was a preseason game and it doesn’t really mean much. But it was just flat out embarrassing. I sometimes ask myself why I’m a Bills fan. A talented team on all tiers shouldn’t roll over the way they do at times, especially the Cinci game.

Oline. Just out score everyone. Get a 1B wr to pair with Diggs. Above average Oline, 1B wr, and Kincaid means Super Bowl. It’s exactly why I wanted to sign Hopkins.

Well I had great expectations for this year, but I’m really trying to convince myself that this is just preseason going through the motions to avoid injury. It totally looks like we don’t even want to be there. Absolutely cannot play like this week 1.

Kincaid, Rousseau, and Davis the only bright spots.

No, other things.

Araiza’s curse.

He’s a sequoia. Old and still taking up large amounts of space adequately.

Might as well bring back Levitre, Wang, and Wood… But seriously would bring Peters back.

I wanted Hyatt so bad. Sigh

Live Motley Crue performance, kickstart…

Before, I feel like the Bills didn’t keep 7WRs because we always kept an extra spot for Taiwan. Now he is off the team, they likely go 7 WRs. That’s fine, then cut Shorter and keep Isabella and we roll.

IMO Harty, Sherfield, and Shakir are locks. The only surprise cut candidate is Shorter.