Virgil
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Took the wife to Gabriel's Gate. I like the atmosphere and actually liked the area it was in. Looked like a lot of other places to stop by at future games. Wings were great.
One drawback, and this might be just me, but places that charge for drink refills are horrible. Seriously, that is the cheapest thing for them to serve and they are going to charge you for every soda? I've not returned to places for less
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After looking these places up, I think we are going to try Gabriel's Gate. Reviews look good.
Any thoughts about non-food activities?
Also, I think we are going to try to swing by Hammer's Lot before the game. Is there a good time to swing by or, not to sound stupid, way that you all recognize each other?
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Oh yeah, I remember the pics of that place. Looks like an Elks lounge or something. That would be an interesting idea
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Do I even want to know what tempo is?
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Thanks for the suggestions. Money isn't an issue if the wife is happy. We are staying at the Hilton near the airport.
I'm not sure meeting some of the people on here would go :-). I'm still slowly bringing her into football and the Bills family.
Just today I was at East view mall in Rochester and was happy that Victoria's Secret had Bills clothing. That's the best way I've found to get her a hoodie and pants
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In town the night before the game. We've done the falls twice and the wait to get into the original wings joints usually is terrible.
Oh yeah, she's also preggo so drinking isn't an option
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Thank you. Got the Hilton at the airport for 160
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anyone get anything that wasn't crappy like a microtel but not $200?
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Wow, I have not looked at the record like that.
Seriously, how many QB's or Coaches for that matter, keep their jobs with a 1-9 record? I'm not trying to turn this thread into something else. That's just a scary thought
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I'm trying to figure out why this team is so crap on offense for the past 9 games. While I understand that NFL defenses are smart and they adjust to gameplans, I still feel like there is more to it than this.
For Chan, I feel the general idea is to spread out the field, causing more single coverage match ups, spread the zones, call out defensive plays (blitz/zone/man), and allow the runningbacks to create plays in space. I also believe I've heard that there is a multiple check-down system. At least 2-3 reads per play.
With that, Fitz obviously has to run what is called, but has the option to make audibles based upon what the D shows him. Fitz, being the "smart" guy he is, has reads and options. The entire playbook is open to him at this point, so I feel like the throws and choices within the play are on him.
Lastly, in watching the games this past week, it seems like more and more teams are actually incorporating spread offensive plays into their gameplan.
With that, while it's ultimately on Chan to put the best team out there, call the plays, and bench people underperforming, I feel like the issues on offense are ultimately on Fitz and that any other QB, while maybe the playbook wouldn't be as open and maybe wouldn't move the ball as good when clicking, wouldn't make the same decisions or throws. For last weeks game, yes the D sucked and it probably wouldn't have mattered, but I would have much rather had 3 and outs than those turnovers.
I'm not a Fitz hater or Chan supporter. I'm just a fan who wants to win and understand what is wrong with the offense. I do believe that any defense with this many new starters will take a while to gel.
So, for those of you who really know this stuff, where does the blame land on the field? Is Chan setting Fitz up for failure or is Fitz the problem and Chan needs to get on it?
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32 and been watching the Bills as long as I can remember. Most painful memory was the 3rd Super Bowl loss when I just couldn't understand why they couldn't just win one.
Other than that, all of the pain since then
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Do I need to be a codebreaker to understand this?
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These past two days since the loss have been terrible as a Bills fan. I've been just beside myself already cashing this season in. But today is the first day where I don't have the emotion in me, and after watching the games last night, I think i'm rational enough to talk about it. The biggest reason's this last game and this season are crap is....
1 - We have a team good enough for the playoffs, but we won't make it. Elite QB's win you superbowls, but they don't have to get you to the playoffs. Heck, Dilfer even won one. For the past 3 years, we've had opportunities to find QB's and Chan, while I respect the loyalty, just puts everything into "his guy". I'm not going to look back and pick guys who panned out and say "we should have picked him", but we didn't go after anyone. This is a team that is short in a few areas, but I honestly believe is good enough to make the playoffs with the people on the team. Even McKelvin, who played the worst game I've ever seen of him, is not as bad as he was on Sunday.
2 - Our team is poorly coached. Again, if Tomlin was our coach, I think we are in that game or maybe win it. The Defense was vanilla (which btw scares me that what we saw in preseason is actually our D), and not running the ball and playing the field position game was surprising. I get that Chan is an "offensive mastermind", and Jerry Jones said he wished he never fired him, welll he never did try to hire him back and once our qb shows he can't handle it, have the sense to change the plan where it's not all on him. There is no reason that team should have looked the way they did this past week. It's been 3 years. This is his team in the way he wanted it.
3 - I'm about to have a kid and am honestly wondering if it's fair to have him/her be a Bills fan. I know I can't change me, but to give a kid a relationship with a team that only breaks your heart seems like child abuse
4 - This is the first game of the season and half of the teams lost. They did and half of them will lose again next week. The difference? Of the teams that lost, many of them made it close against good team. The Packers and the Saints could have easily won their games. We were supposed to be a playoff team this year and even with our schedule, I just don't see it. And if we do take advantage of the schedule, what will that playoff game even look like? Look what the Jets did to us. Imagine playing the Pats, Steelers, Ravens, Broncos, or the Texans?!?
It's one game, I get it. Will Fitz play that bad again, hopefully not. Will the D work together better over time, yes. And if this was a rebuilding year, or the year of a new coach, it would be different. But this is the time we were told to wait for. This was the year where we got to see the Nix/Gailey plan take affect. And I think that most of us were more hyped for this opener than any year in the recent past. So to see this, is heart wrenching.
Lastly, just for context, my favorite season as a Bills fan is still the year we went 3-13. Just a bunch of young players, learning together and making the occasional play. Expectations were non-existent and each win felt was special. That might sound strange, but that's all I want. To feel like the team is trying their best with what they have and working towards something.
But maybe that's just me
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Who cares if we didn't see tape and who cares if the jets are better.
We were supposed to be playoff contenders this year. We got blown out. We are not a good team
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We do realize that, even if we beat KC and Cleveland, that really doesn't say a whole lot. The how point of this game was to see how this team, which many were hoping to be playoff bound, would do against a division rival on the road, who has beaten us for the past 3 years and we got crushed.
Somehow, beating the Chiefs and Browns is going to turn that around. Even if we blow them both out, which I doubt, we still have to play the Pats afterwards. Now, if we take it to the Pats, then maybe this game was a fluke.
I'm sorry, but the only thing we will learn over these next two teams is if we will be in the Barklay sweepstakes, cause if we lose either of them, we are done.
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I'm sorry, but how did they give them these points? Many QB's threw 3 or 4 ints yesterday and their team still won. Why? Because their defense shut down the opposing team or held them to a field goal. If you want to say we gave them something, then maybe say that Fitz gave them a pick 6. Other than that, we could have stopped every other score. The Punt Return could have been stopped. The passing TD's could have been stopped.
I didn't realize that once you threw an INT, you automatically gave the other team a free TD and had to lose the game.
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Just curious to see what people think in year 3, where it's typically put up or shut up time
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It was 40-7 and the jets slowed it down. We got own out. The only thing changing the outcome would have been if a different team was out there
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Yes, one loss that showed no hope for a win and a reminder of the team we are.
And no, I can't predict the future. But I can make strong guesses based upon what I've seen. I've seen this before and seen how it ends.
What have you seen to make you think this season is going to be any different
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I'm sorry, I should have added "in addition to why we suck" to the title
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I'm sorry, but this is total crap. For good teams, this is only 1 game. For teams that usually are expected to win, this is a fluke. For the Bills, this is who we are.
The Jets have done this to us for the past few years now. We were 6-10 last year.
Are you kidding me with this "only 1 game?" I see the people saying it, including Chan, and I'm tired of hearing it.
If this isn't an example of what are team is, within the GM, Coach, QB, and other players, I don't know what more you need to see.
We will win some games against teams equally horrible, get blown out by the playoff teams, and maybe pull out one upset win. With our schedule that's 8-8.
Not good enough in year three. THAT, is all that this is
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Two positions got exposed today and I'm very afraid of what it could mean for us down the stretch.
Gailey has put all his eggs in the Fitz basket. If it doesn't work, what do we have? Jackson? The guy was so bad the team signed Flynn, then lost out to him and a rookie. Without Fitz panning out, we have NOTHING this season at QB.
I'm also not going to pretend that David Nelson was a premier #2 receiver, but again, when you choose to run with 4 WR's, then you are putting a lot of stock into these guys. It looks like Nelson could be done for the year. Who's next, the 3rd round pick who was a healthy scratch for the season opener? If Stevie goes down for any reason, who he himself has even said he's not 100%, what do we have.
It's been 3 years and both Nix and Gailey have said that this is their team. These are the guys they want. Was it 1 game? Yes. However, is it a real possibility that Fitz has peaked or Stevie is hampered all season, ABSOLUTELY YES.
With that, how is Gailey and Nix not accountable?
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Doesn't the team website usually have these posted by now. They are usually in the media link but I can't find them.
I really want to see Chan's and Fitz's comments
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Give me anything to look forward to for this season?
Even being 2-1 isn't exciting because we know the Pats are going to crush us?
D was terrible with no coverage and pressure
Fitz is as bad as I've ever seen
And who knows what's up with Freddy.
Go ahead, I would love to hear this...
Smart People, take me to school. Chan vs Fitz
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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In reading all of the responses to my original question, I think I've found my owns semblance of an answer. Btw, when I said smart people, I was referring to those who claim to have either coached, played, or broke down tape.
Not to cheat with the answer, but I think the final decision for me came from the 1-9 record. With that, the answer is BOTH of them. It's Chan's fault for not adjusting when it wasn't working and not looking for a back-up in case Fitz didn't pan out this week. But Chan isn't on the field. It's up to Fitz to decide on what decisions and throws to make. It's like the kid with candy on the table. He shouldn't be reaching for it, but he also needs to be saved from himself.
The WR and O-Line topic are non-issues to me. The post earlier about the line having 3, top 2 round picks on it says a ton. Also, these guys proved enough at the beginning of last year. We aren't losing because of drops. We either can't get the ball to them or are too pass happy with short/intermediate routes. Also, our coaches are the ones making the choice not to bring in other WR's, keep 2 on the practice squad...just like they haven't thought about a back-up QB to challenge Fitz.