Virgil
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I'll start with this. The Defense is terrible. Wanny needs to be fired since he refuses to make changes. The D is also the reason we are losing games. Now that that's out of the way....
Fitz is a trainwreck and needs to be cut. Not benched, cut. This game is beyond him. And anyone who supports him as a qb, needs to talk to a therapist. Yes, you can support the Bills and not support Fitz. It's physically possible. I'm sorry, with 9 games left, trotting him onto the field anymore says that you accept he is going to make mistakes that lose the game.
And let me just cut some of you off right there. I don't care about how he was through 3 quarters. How he performed during that time is what a good qb is supposed to do. You don't get credit for not beating your wife. You aren't supposed to do that.
Blame the Offensive line all you want, but you can't be that oblivious to the rush and fumble that ball, you can't throw that interception, and you can't make those throws on that last drive. He is absolutely ****. You are paid to win, control the game, and just get it done. If this is a business, then he is failing the business and needs to be fired.
I'm so sick of this crap week in and week out. And if you aren't, I don't know what else you need to see. It's embarrassing and you are delusional to think that Fitz should be supported.
I'm done with him.
We lose because of Fitz, the D, and these stupid !@#$!ng empty backfield plays on 3rd and short. It's all 3 and all 3 need to go
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Can't blame Wilson there, it hit him in the chest
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D sucks, Fitz shows enough to make you think he is back, and then makes those two mistakes that cost you the game.
Different week, same old Bills
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I would love to have Bowe, but I don't think we can afford to trade for him, especially if a second round pick is in there.
We don't know where this season will end for us and we may pick low enough to need those picks to trade up for the qb that is absolutely the priority.
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I don't know why people focus on the ints so much. Outside of Vick, who I hate, I would take any of these guys over Fitz.
It's the horrible overthrows, missing guys by yards, and complete lack of deep ball accuracy that makes him suck.
These guys just make some dumb choices, it's not a talent thing for them.
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I need to bring up the orioles here. They have a terrible attendance during the regular season and their fans are just terrible. They are in a huge city and still can't sell tickets. They finally makes the playoffs and it's like lambeau in there. Just packed and crazy.
We have fans who endure this crap year after and when we finally wise up and stop paying for a product with no return, we are the bad fans come December? I think not.
Put a playoff team on the field, and you can guarantee a sellout. You can even raise prices.
For the first few years after our playoff drought, the FO might have an argument. After all this time, they owe us
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Shh... Santa told him the Bills would make the playoffs
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Ah, fair enough. To clarify, I mean that people will do whatever they feel they need to if they feel the end result will make them happy.
So, if she's not doing that and he's put his cards on the table, then she's not feeling it
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Where the hell did you get that out of what I said? I'm talking on his behalf. If she makes him happy, then you find a way to make it work as will she. If both sides aren't doing that, then clearly one of them doesn't think it will make them happy.
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I know nothing about this kid and have heard a lot of hype around him. My only question is, doesn't he work in the spread? Normally those guys don't work out.
But hey, I'm all for a ton of great college QB's coming out this year so we can have a chance at them
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This may not be a deep answer, but it's the only one I know after being in a few of them.
You simply make it work. If it's worth it, the decisions you have to make won't be that hard. You'll find a way. If you don't, then maybe there is a reason why you don't.
I've always said, if there is a box on the ground that you know for a fact that if you pick it up, you'll be happy...you'll pick it up. It's that simple
Just an update for you guys
Weve been talking a bit. Nothing really ground breaking. I told her how much I missed her and she said she needed this and needed space ect. So I backed off for a few days. She sent me a text and we talked briefly then i sent her one a few days later talked briefly.
I talked to her roommate the other night and explained to her that i was worried about my ex forgetting me and that I wanted this to work ect. She told me that she thinks (based on what shes heard and seen) that she has every intention of staying in touch with me and seeing where we are in a while. The roommate thinks that for now this is temporary and if I want this to work, I should just be patient.
Today I got to work and we had no power so I texted my ex and asked what i should do with my new found day off and we talked a bit. I said something like "Ok well I know your busy I wont keep bugging you with my boredom" She responded "Captain Hindsight, I hate when you do that... you never bug me. I'd tell you if I couldnt talk to you cause i was busy. Stop thinking that bc we arent dating youve all of a sudden become the most annoying person in the world to me. Because you arent. Youre still a very close friend to and if your bored I want you to be able to text me."
I said i was sorry and I was just trying to respect her space. She said "I know you are and i really do appreciate that. But if your gonna talk to me, then talk to me. When you do that it makes me feel bad like you think im ignoring you or something and Im not."
I said" I know you not ignoring me, like i said im just trying to respect your space and let you live, but i'll remember that."
We talked after that a bit just like we had a month before and then the conversation fizzled. And here I am.
I know my gift is in hindsight and that I may be setting myself up for failure but i decided that I'm willing to wait for her to figure things out and hopefully we can get back together when I'm closer and this is just a footnote in our relationship. Things shes said and her roommate has said suggest this could work. I havent doubted my feelings for her, ever. Since we met, ive known. I cant explain it, i dont understand it, but I know. I'll fight for it, wait for it, whatever it takes. But i know.
I know you guys give it to me straight. Am I being crazy? Or am I right to be fight for what I am sure is my future wife?
So, just read this and it was painful. Man, you gotta do just that. Man up. If she's seen what you got, and you've put in the effort, then it's on her. Based on what I've read, you've probably already done too much and made yourself too available. My honest opinion, and I'm sorry, but it's just not going to happen.
But for all that is holy, stop !@#$ing apologizing. Stop saying things like "I won't bug you". Hell, that makes me not want to talk to you and I don't even know you ;-).
People date, hang out, whatever, because they want to. Because they want to be around the other person. Because they feel better with them. Games are obvious.
Two things I know from being 32 and unfortunately getting around a lil bit.
1 - You don't have to work hard for the good ones, you'll do it naturally and for some reason, they'll want to do the same for you
2 - The minute you stop caring, is the minute she will find you. Whoever she is.
I'm not saying stop calling her. But don't call her with an agenda. Let things just happen. Don't force anything. Don't make any adjustments to your life or plans just for her. If she finds a way in or asks for a way in, then fine. But that's it. Even if you think you are a piece of ****, you are going to be someone's piece of **** someday and she'll be happy to have you :-)
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49ers are usually amazing at home. With that, I call for a forecast of.....
DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!
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Being a fan since the early 90's, I get why I got emotionally involved until a few years after the Music City Miracle. The team was always a few plays away from being back in their glory days. But now, after all this time, I feel insane for letting this team get to me.
If you read all the threads, right or wrong, there is so much passion around who is to blame. The QB, the coaches, the scheme. You could go back on this thread for 15 years and see the exact same topics, but with just different coaches and players filling in the blanks. Some remember different players better than they were, or drafts that could have been.
And even his year, after the blow out to the Jets, I told myself that I would not allow myself to get excited if we got to 2-1 heading into the Pats game. Logic said that beating two crap teams after a typical division game had this team smelling of old. Yet there I was at half time just absolutely pumped about the D, FItz, Spiller/Fred playing and a gameplan that had Brady frustrated.
Skip to the end, I'm pissed off, depressed, and done with football for the day and back to my normal conclusion of the Bills not being a very good team. I went through the basic steps:
1 - Fitz sucks
2 - Can't wait to see how BillFromNYC tries to spin this crap
3 - Gonna torch some optimists on the forum
4 - Wanny sucks
5 - Why does my wife look happy
6 - Great, now the Yankees are going to lose too
7 - Why the hell aren't people agreeing with my anger and why the hell is my wife so happy!
8 - Depression.
9 - Self-awareness "How did I get here again"
I seriously feel like an abused wife. "But he loves me. He promises he'll change." What would you say to that person?
Nothing I say or do is going to change anything around how I feel. The only optimism I have is that the beat down in San Fran won't feel so bad next week. Can all teams be like this. Why couldn't I have been raised a Giants fan or something?
No point to this, just talking
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You know what makes me even more of a Fitz non-supporter, watching any other quarterback play. Just one drive by Eli makes feel like we don't have a clue at qb
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Is there any way to re-word the topic of this thread to make it any more clear that today's game is not why I'm bailing on Fitz or do I have to keep reading about people talking about the Defense and the fumbles?
As said by a few of you, Fitz is a tease and today was actually a good day for him. But today is not enough and a perfect example of why he can't be the guy for us. No clock management, really off target throws when we needed to sustain drives, and absolutely pathetic in comparison to a qb on the field who was in the same position with team support and down 14, but handled it the complete opposite.
No, I don't want Tom Brady or a top 5 QB, but I do want a guy who isn't going to help us lose.
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Well obviously he didn't win it or the Bills would have won. Crazy.
Look no use beating a dead horse, agree to disagree. Fitz put us in position to win the game in the 3rd. Thats what QBs do and I'll leave it at that.
Is he the QB you want on the field for us, this season and next. Simple Question.
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Is it not fair to say that Brady got just as much Defensive support and turnovers not caused by him? Yet look at the difference in response. Brady calls audibles and just carved us up. He was hitting Welker on out routes all day. Fitz overthrew them all day.
Let's make this really simple. Because this is not about the rest of the team. Are you saying that Fitz is the QB you want in there. Not, "He's what we have" or "we could do worse." Is he your guy. When next years offseason rolls around, are you not looking at QB's?
Myself, I wanted it to be Fitz. I really did. I just can't believe in him anymore
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It's not a coincidence that I started this thread after this game because this game perfectly sums up his career to me. Blah start. Great middle to give hope, still making a few just off throws to make you worried, then looks like a child compared to a real QB. I'm not putting this game on Fitz, but he didn't win it either and it's a great representation of his entire career IMO
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So apparently FJ gets a pass on his fumble? When the game was 28-21 and still within reach. I'm sorry but that was way more costly. Now your just straight hating on Spiller.
Holy **** man, let it go. Yeah, it hurt and it shouldn't have happened. But you know what, he's earned it
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I'm going to say this one more time, who said anything about today's game?
I do believe he didn't do enough to keep the team on the field so the d could catch their breath. But ultimately, I said his collection of work.
Please stop with the argument that he didn't single handedly lose the game today.
But... If you want to. Brady was down 14 without an interception and did take control and win the game for his team. Fitz sure didn't do that.
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Who said anything about this game?
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At this point in his career, what makes you believe he can be the guy for 4 quarters, against a division rival, or to get us to the playoffs.
I have the Fitz jersey, the original belief, and the desire for him to be good. He shows glimpses, but not a complete story.
He's not the guy to get us to the next level. I think that anyone who believes otherwise is crazy, but I'm listening.
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Outcoached in divisional games - 100 points given up in 2 games, ridiculous record for Chan against the AFC East
Fitz has a pathetic arm. Makes just enough throws to give you a glimpse, but can't do it for 4 quarters. He'll win just enough to not let us draft high enough to get his replacement.
Offensive Production - Put the D on the field way too much without rest. No RB in the backfield on 3rd downs. Chan doesn't make Fitz throw 4 picks, but he does put it in his hands.
Wanny - Too stubborn for his own good. Just like Martz, won't blitz or change it up. This team has way too much talent to be run like this.
End result, we are an 8-8 team at best. Just like in this game, we win 2 qtrs, lose the other 2 badly.
End result, Fitz just needs to go. The team needs to be committed to whoever is in there. Chan needs to shove a boot up Wanny's ass and make him adjust. Chan needs to stop being so tricky and realize who he has on his team. Stop the misdirection, stop the empty backfield on 3rd down, and just do move the ball in small chunks.
Good news though, no matter what else happens, we don't need to hold out hope this season. We know everything we need to and the end result...we are not a playoff team
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Great TD! Fitz is the man, can't think of a bad thing to say about him!
Fire Chan, cut Fitz
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So basically, if you score 34 points, you can just throw int's after that and do whatever you want? That's your logic?