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I understand the Bills are already elite and have been for a while. My point was more about how I would feel if I were on the Packers side of things. Yes, Green Bay was a contender before the trade, but they were not widely viewed in the same tier as the very top teams. This move, at least for now, puts them there, and time will tell if it holds. I get your point about the cap and roster implications that come with making a big move like this. Those things do create pressure, and if the ultimate goal is not reached, it is easy for fans to look back and say it was not worth it. Sports often get reduced to win or lose in that way. But as a fan, I do not think it has to be that black and white. I love seeing the Bills as one of the class teams in the NFL and will always value that, even while recognizing that nothing lasts forever. Right now, the Packers feel like a team that can take on anybody, and that is a great place to be. Not winning a Super Bowl does not erase that. Sure, many fans would complain about a move like this if it does not end in a championship, but just as many would remember and enjoy the ride of watching their team compete at the very highest level. We love our Bills and enjoy the seasons especially now that we have 17. There are so many memories we have that we think fondly of. No matter what happens, I will always look back at this time fondly and with good memories and I will not consider it a loss.

Exactly, this is how I see it too. As a fan, of course the ultimate hope is always to win the Super Bowl. But I also love when the Bills are among the elite, when they are clearly one of the top teams in the league. That is where the Packers sit right now until proven otherwise, and I am sure their fans are happier with that than they would be sitting just outside of that elite tier. If the Bills made a move like this and did not end up winning it all, but it elevated the team into the class of the NFL for several years, I would look back thinking we could have and should have won a Super Bowl. At the same time, I would also have incredible memories of watching my team compete at the very highest level, and that would mean far more than framing it simply as a failed trade.

I do not think the trade for Micah Parsons should automatically be defined as a failure if the Packers do not win a Super Bowl. Winning a championship is always the ultimate goal, but football is far more complex than star player equals Super Bowl or bust. A great example is the Bills trading for Stefon Diggs. Buffalo did not win a Super Bowl in his four years there, but that move completely transformed the team. It elevated Josh Allen into an elite quarterback tier, gave Buffalo one of the best wide receivers in the league, and made them a legitimate contender every season. By almost every measure, that was a win of a trade, even without the Lombardi. I would argue the same logic applies here. If Parsons helps elevate Green Bay from good to consistently being among the elite with deep playoff runs and multiple NFC Championship appearances, then that is a success. Where I agree with the criticism is that simply going one and done or consistently finishing 1-1 in the playoffs would not cut it. Consistent high level contention has to be the bar. And we cannot ignore the reality of football. One injury to Jordan Love or other key players could derail a season regardless of how dominant Parsons plays. That does not erase the value of acquiring one of the very best defensive players in the league. We have seen other examples of this across the NFL. When the Vikings traded for Jared Allen in 2008, he immediately turned their defense into a top unit and helped Minnesota become a true contender. They made playoff runs and reached the NFC Championship but never won a Super Bowl. Still, that trade is remembered as a huge success because Allen was a transformative player who made them elite. Another example is the Bears trading for Khalil Mack in 2018. Chicago did not win it all, but Mack turned their defense into one of the most feared in the league and made them an immediate contender. That move was viewed as a win because of how much it elevated the team, even without a ring. The point is that acquiring a generational talent is about consistently giving yourself a real chance. Without Parsons, the Packers are a good team. With him, they are an elite team that everyone has to take seriously. And to me, that is worth it, because so many factors beyond Parsons will ultimately determine whether or not a Super Bowl is won. Perhaps instead of a binary: win/loss it could be best viewed as F - A+ with an A+ being the Super Bowl win and B+ being elite and championship game appearance(s). There is just so many layers to success or not, although I want the Bills to winner a Super Bowl beyond anything else, I also greatly appreciate when they are elite and I appreciate the steps that make them elite and I consider them being elite and with a chance to win it all a level of success beyond fighting to make the playoffs if that.

Context is always important to recognize and one week is not enough information to determine who is and isn’t the best defense or offense in the NFL this season. Because of the lack of data, the best thing we can do is draw from how we have faired in the past, that offers more context then one game against a very good team. Think of the Saints after two weeks last year, one of the best offenses and that didn’t last. Going off the data without enough context is little better than a random guess. Historically, our defense is a really good regular season defense, but also struggles against these power running type of teams. However, Fields isn’t Lamar and I believe our defense comes out looking a lot better this week.

If I remember correctly, the ball was snapped a little in the quick side. Bishop may have thought he had time to sneak his way up pre snap.

To set up the two matches per week, it was a setting available in the commissioner tools. I believe it may have been a default setting too. It said something like, “two matches per week” and I had to click the information button to see what it meant. I’m excited to check it out. It seems like every year there are those people who either have all of the good matchups or the unlucky matchups.

Has anyone tried the Sleeper App for fantasy football? I started a new 10 league this year that’s 1 ppr, redraft, with blind action waiver wire. I’m 9/10 and we pick tomorrow morning. I’m also the comish in a 12 ppr, redraft, blind auction waiver, ESPN league. We’ve done this league for over 10 years now, probably close to 15. After seeing Sleeper, it puts ESPN to shame. I love mock drafting and Sleeper doesn’t great job at it. You can see all of your past mocks, plus invite people into the mock draft, making it easy to practice with others. There is also a feature I’m trying out this year. Everyone in the league has two matchups each week. A regular head to head and then you play against the average score of everyone in the league. So you can go 2-0, 1-1, or 0-2. I’ve had a lot of fun over the years expanding the playoff field, which keeps just about everyone in the hunt until the very end, so I’m excited to see how things shake out with the two matchups a week.

No joke here. Me and my extended family aren’t watching this year. Also, a lot of people I work with aren’t watching, whether they are lying I don’t know. But my family has a Super Bowl party every year and we aren’t this year. I’m voting with my viewership. Also, the only Chiefs game I’ll watch next year is when they play the Bills. Otherwise, I’m not watching the Chiefs again until they aren’t favored so blatantly.

Even with the refs really screwing us, a few different plays calls or better execution (Kincaid catch on 4th down) and we win the game. We are so so close. We don’t need significant change as many here seem to be implying. If we do that, chances are we change for the worse, not the better and we waste prime Josh Allen years worse than we are now. There is no guarantee a big shakeup will result in better performance. The fact of the matter is our team has been dominant 5 years running with the highest point differential in the league. We just need better play calling and more elite talent to make/execute the plays in the biggest moments. More than a major shakeup we need tactical tweaks to put us over the top. I’m on the opposite spectrum of all of you who can’t get past the pain of the loss and are expressing your pain as, “burn it down, we need major change”. What you don’t realize is, the chances are high that the major change will be in the wrong direction. I think we have a great coach, great GM, and the most gifted QB. We just need more elite talent, which means better drafting in the first and second round. But even with that being said, Beane has built an incredible roster and has done such an amazing job with late round picks. I’m just glad we have an owner who DOESN’T think like all of those who can’t get past of the pain of the loss.

Were you a fan during the drought years? If so, yes this hurts but it’s WAY better than those years. Our team is awesome and so close to going all the way. They have the ability to donut any year with Allen at qb and I think anyone during the drought would have gladly had a team that has a chance ever year. Be happy for what we have.

I think you’re right about going big to match the Ravens, but taking Taron out a bunch is really hard to do. He is so special. But I don’t think he can go in at safety either, so that might be the only option when the Ravens go big. We definitely need a plan other than staying in nickel.

For clarification he actually says that the Ravens played very little 11 personnel. They played with 6 o-linemen 22% of the time, and he didn’t say how often Richard was out there when in a 6 o-linemen formation. He also stated the Steelers allowed just over 3 yards a play when they had 3 db’s on the field, and 4.1 yards per play with 4 db’s on the field, however they gave up over 9 yards per play with 5 db’s on the field. They Steelers played 5 db’s just under 50% of the time. Sounds like we need a plan to counter when the Ravens go heavy with 6 o-linemen and/or bring Ricard out. We should have an idea how to play 6 o-linemen because the Bills led the league during the regular season in that formation. Thanks for sharing the video.

Great pick! Let’s see it come true

Between Mooney, Shakir, and Coleman which two should I start? I’m leaning Shakir and Mooney but I’m 100% convinced.

The Seahawks blue like ours is their retro jersey and you don’t see many of those at Hawks games. It’s mostly the new darker blue jersey they have. My best friend is a Hawks fan with seasons and I go to a few games every year. Most of the blue yesterday was Bills blue, I promise. There was just a sea of Bills fans. I’ve never seen so many fans of an away team at a Hawks game.