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2 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:
Me either, but there's apparently a huge CMC fan club on twobillsdrive. who were ready to part ways with a 1st rounder to get him here.
I can see the whole being starved to win a superbowl thing which seems to be where they’re coming from…but imo winning the superbowl in any individual season requires a little bit of luck in addition to a great team (see: bills losing OT coin toss last year) and the best way to get one is to be great over a long period of time.
im curious if the rams really nosedive if their fans years from now will say selling out for that one superbowl was worth it.
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52 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:
49ers must genuinely think they have a shot at winning it all this year with this move. If they can get healthy, they may be right. They have an elite D and CMC gives them a real threat out of the backfield.
I'm not saying they are better than our Bills, but I think their front office thinks this is a piece of the puzzle they need.
Frankly, I'm glad the Bills didn't try to pull the trigger on a deal like this with that many picks, but I'm going to predict we get a bunch of "I told you so" speeches if the Bills don't win the SB and how we would've if we signed CMC. 😄
I still wouldn’t have traded a 2nd 3rd 4th and 5th in 2024 for him even in hindsight if we don’t win a superbowl and they do. We’d have to let some players walk to keep him too
they are in danger of going all in on this year and not winning it then being screwed in the future especially because they traded up for Lance also. I still think the eagles and cowboys with Dak are gonna be tough. It’s hard to count out Brady figuring it out too
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1 hour ago, TheWeatherMan said:
3-4 players from that team play or have played in the NFL. You make it sound like he played for Buff State.
How many of them played offense? And how many of them that played offense are even relevant? I think that list would just be chase roullier but I could be forgetting someone. Josh got dumped on for his performances against the big schools and there was virtually no other nfl caliber players on offense
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4 hours ago, RocCityRoller said:
Define elite quarterback. Terms like 'elite' and 'GOAT' are being thrown around so much right now that they are losing any meaning. Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady are also 3-3. How do you rate them? Cooper Rush is 4-1 and Dan Jones is 5-1, are they elite now? Silly argument. Baltimore's offense is dragging their terrible defense to a 3-3 record. Guess who leads that offense?
There are 2 elite QBs in the league today. Allen and Mahomes. Jackson is tier 2 by any measure.
1-3 in the playoffs?
He lost to Buffalo who needed a Taron Johnson pick 6 to turn that game around. Thankfully Johnson has a knack for those types of plays. (See KC last week)
He lost to the Titans and Derek Henry who went off for 195 yards rushing. Was he playing defense?
He lost to a Chargers team where he out dueled Rivers. Rivers 0 TD - 0 INT, Jackson 2 TD - 1 INT
Clearly Jackson melted down versus the Giants last week. No argument there. Two turnovers in the last 5 minutes of the game stinks. But that was after the Baltimore defense melted down in the 4th quarter. His best WR, Bateman, has missed 3.5 games. That hurts any QB, ask Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady. That was a team loss, not just a Jackson loss. It's also recency bias.
Any QB who gets my team a double digit second half lead in 5 of 6 games is doing something right. Baltimore is 3-3 because of terrible defense and bad decisions by Harbaugh. Letting Wink Martinale go was also a terrible decision. I put Lamar in the top 10 of QBs in the league right now, and may put him top 5. Jackson is 40-15 in his career with 97 passing TDs against 37 INTs and a 63-64% completion rate. Let's also discount everything he does with his legs. Pundits have been doing that to Allen for years.
QBs are playing and winning in different ways now. How do you rank Jalen Hurts? He is 6-0. By your logic even better than Allen and Mahomes.
I showed DVOA and SRS to show Buffalo is the clear #1 team in the league so far. Eagles are top 3, but by most measures so is Baltimore. It adds credit to the Bills wins on the road vs Baltimore and KC. The KC defense is not good, neither is the Baltimore defense. The offense is dragging both teams into the top 10 in DVOA and SRS. The Bills offense struggled at times against both.
I agree with you that winning the Lombardy in this window is the only thing that matters. At one point in the first half the Bills had 3 possessions in the red zone and walked away with 3 points against one of the worst defenses in the league. Eagles/Dallas/49ers defenses are much better than Baltimore and KC. That has to improve to get a Lombardy in Buffalo.
Needed a Taron Johnson pick 6 to turn the game around? The game was 10-3 Buffalo at that point. At worst it’s tied if he doesn’t throw that pick
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How many games does a team not leave points off the board though…it’s going to happen. Just gotta make enough plays to beat the other guy
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Eagles aren’t nearly as good imo…they aren’t beating the cowboys with Dak
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Does orchard park really have the infrastructure to host a Super Bowl anyway? I wouldn’t say so
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11 hours ago, SACTOBILLSFAN said:
This is objectively wrong.
Josh -110 at BOL
Even more wow lol
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47 minutes ago, Success said:
First, I have all kinds of respect for KC, and they & the Bills are definitely 1b and 1a.
But the Bills are better. Even though it just came down to a couple of plays yesterday & we could have easily lost, we're the better overall team now, on both sides of the ball. In the offseason, we built up the unit that was always vexing for us when facing Mahomes, and we now have the pass rush that was so needed for years against him. It made the difference yesterday in getting those stops that we couldn't get in the playoff game. The secondary is also better, even with our best player in that unit still being out.
KC is worse. Still one of the best teams in the NFL - but losing Hill was a big, big deal...at least for the Bills. It was always the Kelce/Hill combo that was too difficult for us to defend. Kelce is still getting his, but without that big play threat that Hill always represented, that team is just easier for us to get stops against.
All that said, of course they could still beat us in the playoffs. Yesterday was close - but I also felt like the Bills made a bunch of mistakes that kept it close. The fact that we now have the inside track for homefield could make all the difference. I love our chances if the rematch is in Buffalo.
Kelce got his because we took Milano off him to spy mahomes…it was really the mahomes/Kelce/hill trio that made it all work. Their receivers honestly made 100% of the tough contested catches in huge spots that game and they still lost. I wouldn’t expect those guys to make nearly that many plays in an average game. I feel pretty confident if we see them again
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18 minutes ago, 947 said:
Chargers have been playing without Keenan Allen since the first half of Week 1, imagine if we lost Diggs for 6 weeks. Also missing Joey Bosa for a long while. They're a good team, and a very real threat to KC in the AFCW with a healthy Keenan Allen & Bosa.
They can’t shake that ‘winning close games’ stigma though. On paper they’re probably the second best team in the afc but they’ve been good/great on paper for awhile now and it just isn’t translating into wins
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22 minutes ago, beebe said:
DVOA is adjusting for schedule strength. Traditional points allowed stats - besides being often misleading (ie special teams or defensive scores; turnovers that set up short fields etc) - means very little in terms of predictive value. If KC played a schedule consisting of Bills, Ravens, Eagles, Chargers, Dolphins, Bengals, you'd expect their defense to perform far worse than if they played a schedule consisting of Panthers, Colts, Bears, Commanders, Texans, Steelers.
DVOA helps iron all this out.
I know it tries to but I don’t think it’s doing a good enough job personally when quantifying last season just as an example. Our scheme just didn’t hold up against certain styles of offenses so the fact that we were absolutely stifling bad teams really meant nothing in relation to our performance against good ones.
DVOA is maybe useful in speculating on defensive performances in future games but we’re talking about how much help a qb got from his defensive side in games that have already happened so I think PA is a better metric to use in that case. But that’s just my opinion obviously lol
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12 hours ago, chongli said:
Yep, with them cheating by playing Tua in the second half, despite a concussion. That's the only way they can beat us. Otherwise, the Bills are 6-0 right now and Miami is 2-4.
It was the injuries…a team is just not winning a game missing 11 starters. People can parrot the classic ‘injuries are no excuse’ line but there has to be a limit to that way of thinking lol
4 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:Without Tua Miami is toast, despite the great receivers. NE is a so-so team at best. Count on the Jets to fall apart.
Meanwhile, we have Josh Allen, a first ballot HOF lock if he stays healthy. 👍🏈👍
Tua will be back next week
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I’d say he’s losing the bet on himself as of this moment
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I had to run to the supermarket just before halftime and that’s when our huge 97 yard drive happened lol I got back home for the kc 62 yd fg
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9 hours ago, beebe said:
The Tyreek trade made the Chiefs less explosive, but they had to make a move to help them build a better defense. KC is the inferior team to Buffalo this year - and arguably was last year, and arguably was the year before! - entirely due to their weak defense. Mahomes' brilliance has helped the Chiefs overcome some pretty big warts during this five-year run. But it's time for the Chiefs to get serious about building a defense.
KC's DVOA defense ranks in Mahomes era:
27th, 14th, 22nd, 24th, 15th (this year).
Buffalo's DVOA defense:
2nd, 7th, 12th, 1st, 2nd (this year)
The Chiefs are an unfinished product on defense, but they're going to make some strides by the time the playoffs roll around. Through six games, they've had ONE interception — and it came on a play when a Chargers receiver basically decided to take a breather at the snap.
That said, these teams are just in different places. It's Buffalo's time to break through. It's all there for the taking. Outside of the Eagles - who I still suspect is a fraud - I don't see many serious threats in the NFC. And for all the talk about the AFC being a super conference, the only teams that seem like a viable threat to the Bills is KC or the Chargers (if they get healthy.)
Their defense up until this season has been top 10 in points allowed though pretty consistently…idk why people treat yards like it is the end all be all. As far as helping out your qb goes, points allowed is the definitive stat
I don’t think I really completely trust DVOA over points allowed in this case…we all saw what happened to buffalos defense when we played great teams last year. Doesn’t seem like they account for quality of opponents enough
Id take spagnuolo/the kc defense in a big game over the pre von miller bills defense every single time
They were 8th in points allowed per game last season and 10th the season before and 7th the season before that. The only time his defense was bad was the year they won the superbowl ironically.
’he hasn’t had a defense to back him up’ is really just pro mahomes propaganda 🤣.
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Looks like Josh’s odds have moved up to +150…wow. Mahomes has dropped to third at +500 with hurts in the 2 slot at +400
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3 hours ago, Shortchaz said:
I could argue we were out-coached today in that the game went the way the chiefs wanted THIS game to go.
We fielded the superior team and ultimately won but the chiefs kept us out of the end zone.
Im not sure that’s the game they wanted…if you told anyone we’d have 100+ rushing yards there’s no shot they were picking the chiefs. Chiefs couldn’t run the ball at all on us really despite us playing a good amount of 2 deep safety looks. The game they wanted was to rip off some big runs and force a safety into the box
they match up pretty well against us while our offensive line continues to figure stuff out on the fly…Chris jones might be the best player in the league so far this year. It’s not a glamor position but the KC offensive line has been far better than ours so far this season. Factoring all that in I don’t think we fielded a team that was sufficiently better than theirs to the point where we could get outcoached and win
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Imagine romo dropping 80k on an exact score bills win 24-20 bet. Not sure if he said the bills would win but he predicted a 24-20 game lol
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Just now, dakrider said:
One of the dumbest trades I've seen in awhile.
It’s a good one for them long term but might hurt for a season or 2. Tyreek is gonna fall off at some point and they got a big return for him
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1 hour ago, newcam2012 said:
Some are saying the Chiefs brought their A game.
I think they hit on a lot of plays they won’t normally get too though…although they obviously made some mistakes. MVS/hardman/juju made some tight contested catches that I’ve seen them not converting for most of the season
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Just now, bills6969 said:
KC’s offense is far less intimidating without Hill. Their WRs are pretty pedestrian tbh
Kelce makes everyone better around him though…I would’ve rathered they lost Kelce than hill
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1 hour ago, co_springs_billsfan said:
What kind of injury causes that? I mean, Tua flew home with the team from Cincy a couple weeks ago
Rib or being in collapsed lung recovery…the low air pressure on a flight would probably hurt
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17 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:
2 Red Zone turnovers (one fumble and once on downs) would have cost us the game if Chiefs were playing at their best.
Both teams played well, but definitely missed on some plays. "B" grade is fair
What is this argument though lol we had a b game also and left a ton of points off the board. I think we’re getting a little spoiled by absolutely blowing out teams.
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10 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:
I doubt any Chiefs fan would say that was their A game. In fact, they most likely think they should have win the game.
I totally disagree with you. Throw your stats out the window too. They didn't mean poop going into this game. Joe Marino in one of his podcasts said it too. Ask Mahomes if he played his A game.
I love the ‘just wait until we get Fenton back’ who isn’t very good and we will be getting tre white back
Bills, Minny and Eagles all on bye, NFL lookin lame this week
in The Stadium Wall
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49ers chiefs could be fun…I’m wondering what that sf defense is able to do against kc