GregPersons

You are an idiot.

This is great. This is a nightmare.

You should've read my entire post before responding to one sentence. There is a difference between racism (systemic) and prejudice (individual). You are describing prejudice. The reason it is impossible to be racist toward White people in America is because nothing you say or imagine or do to a White person on an individual basis can eliminate the inherent privileges they are born into. No individual action can remove the majority dominant status in the culture. Do you see the difference? As desperately as Whites have tried to, amazingly, position themselves as somehow being the victims of racism — "reverse racism" and "the race card" and "affirmative action" and "cracker" (lmao) and allllllll the desperate ways of acting aggrieved -- truly there are no bigger hypocritical babies in the history of the modern world than White Americans and their treatment toward Black Americans. Imagine a White generation that made a real effort to helping... without being prompted with begging and piles of dead bodies. Imagine a White generation of Americans that lived the values they claim so loudly. Maybe your grandkids.

Yeah, you definitely "won." As I said at the beginning, that was always clear on your intent (and most others). You want to get some sort of gotcha, some kind of way to put the idea in a box and put it away. Called it from the beginning and throughout. Don't forget you can throw over the top of the mountains too, Uncle Rico.

-All of your posts are aggrieved. -I don't. -We're equal here. I type faster. -Freedom not your thing? -Yes, begging. I definitely am getting all of the attention, yay for me. And you're begging for it; you can have it. -Another thing to be grateful for. You're welcome. Sorry about the lack of laughter, but it sounds like you're pretty confused in general. You've done great work here, Chef. Way to poop in the soup

Do you ever feel kinda stupid, going to these lengths, to pretend you have any kind of real problem in your pointless life? Don't you wish you could do something more with your meaty hairy flesh tit existence? Wouldn't fighting for the freedom of Americans seem like a much better, less selfish, less pointless, less useless version of your time? Then your response is.... Oh so you think you're in here as a freedom fighter? No honey, you're not getting it. We're both in here right now, together. Your objective is to beg for attention, making no worthwhile contribution. It's important to remain grateful. Do you agree? Right now I am grateful I am not you.

Now I'm in the suburbs. We're on which draft of your Greg Persons fantasy? Is anyone updating the wikipedia entry? Yes, the "our" is -- all people. Everybody who is subject to the violence happening in every city in the country. I love how you have constructed several imaginary realities for me, decided against them, and then blamed me for your own stupid guesses. It's how you see the world. Whatever is happening, you have to be the center and you have to be right. It could not be any other way for you. But it's humming around the edges of what you're willing to see.... you want to hold on to the fantasy until the grave, oooo if you could just make it. But if you're in your 60s after a long career, doing a job everybody now feels is a grotesque institution that's been allowed to grow rapidly out of control (like your waistline, yeah?) ... depending on your health you've got another couple decades with us. You've still got time to come around, gramps. Just like Drew Brees. You're a piece of *****. But someday the light might go on, and you'll see the shadows on the wall for what they are and walk out of the cave and join the real fight, instead of going out like a little punk in your twilight years. Nut up, old man.

Actually, as I've said repeatedly, and you continue to fail to grasp is... I don't care about you. Is this the second or third time you've done this exact response? I don't think anything about you. You seem like a piece of *****. You have this obsession with me checking you out. I don't care. Again. You seem like garbage. And all of your posts are weirdly obsessive and stalkerish, a number of you are really ***** thin-skinned psycopaths the way you fixate and stalk and badger. It's obvious that you do this elsewhere. It's obvious you don't think that's weird at all, and definitely don't think it's harassment. I mean this with 100% sincerity — get over yourself, you desperate ***** diva. (Also yes. Your bit of "Irony" award. You could literally, anyone could do that for any post from any person. Repeatedly. It is literally the very basest of observations. MMMMM? But et tu???? Pot calling the kettle black????? Could do it for anything.) American humans.

This idea of being embarrassed... well, is it embarrassing to talk to you? Yes obviously. Is it embarrassing to actually engage with chuds like yourself, and like read your actual drivel and give you the dignity of my responses? One hundred percent. Is it embarrassing that I haven't seen any examples of good cops from you, and it would seem like you would know? I think the best you've provided is... FBI numbers about police and murder stats. And you genuinely couldn't believe the idea that the numbers might be unreliable. And it turned out you were a career cop. Yes yes yes. All of that is embarrassing. But I really, I'm trying to be kind. I am still Buffalo at heart, like it or not. I prefer to be direct. And I love to have a clear purpose. What better purpose than telling racists to eat ***** and die and their lives were pointless and they won't be missed? In the future we will all be embarrassed to have ever known or put up with people like you.

I stand corrected. "Cotton pickin minute", that one, not so good. What's another one. "Sold down the river."

It's definitely because you're not racist and not because you're repulsive. Didn't we already give one award for your heroic non-racism? You didn't even yell the N word once this year, probably.

Which culture is that? American culture? Black culture? Protest culture? Anti-cop culture? White culture? Hired protestor culture? Which culture that has been ascribed to me am I trying to pass off, my prejudiced friend? What new conclusions do you have for who I am now? You've been doing so well. Btw — look, here, as the old man once again, even though it was predicted to him to his face that he would do this.... we see the attempt to box it in, try to make it something familiar and comforting. The rhetoric of racists is never surprising, because there's been no new original thought. None of the racists are really willing to stand up for their beliefs, you had guys like Richard Spencer and Milo for awhile but they went down with one punch and cried for a couple years. You just have the right wing media — which, by the way, is ***** pervasive, and somehow Republicans and Racist Whites continue to feel persecuted despite having complete control of the culture. Isn't that sad, you think? Looking back on your career as a cop... seeing the world now. 1959, if that's your birth year, you were born into the greatest empire in the world. Unimaginable wealth and power afforded to you. And what did you do with it? Where are you now? What good have you done with the huge power given to you at birth, you useless sack of *****? You bitched. And moaned. And blamed everybody else for your inability to do anything. Everything you stand for — Bills, cops, your generation — complete failure. Frankly, seeing you get increasingly less veiled in your racism and hatred, that seems right. Maybe you're lonely too to top it off. I wouldn't wish you on anyone.

Racism doesn't have to be your identity, if you don't want it to be. I like that each of you have a different version of who I am, and you really just cling to the reality with all you've got. Racism is a parasite and a brain disease. It's not hard to spot. It's like tourettes. You don't really need to be a doctor to spot it, especially if you've grown up in a country where a lot of people have tourettes. Very easy to identify, even though the people with tourettes think they talk normally. I'm just calling a spade a spade. Wait a cotton pickin' minute.... ever notice how racist so much of our old timey phrases are? Wild!

The military style police force — also let's remember they are not soldiers, they are civil servants, like mail carriers, playing commando with our tax money — is what has instigated the violence. 99 out of 100 times. The idea that cops need this is pure propaganda, from the cops. If you are only looking at cable or TV news or Facebook, you're getting the impression that cops are belted with bricks and whatever else, and the kneeling photos. Social media has first hand accounts all over the place of what's happening in the streets. Unarmed protestors and shield/helmet/SWAT gear/armed officers. And they really want you to think it's the unarmed protestors starting these fights. And people are willing to believe it. It's not true. All we saw, all week, was cops & mayors pouring gasoline on the flames. In response to protests of police brutality, police brutally beat the protestors. Multiple cities, tons of examples. Twitter and Instagram, browse around. Notice too, the videos of the cop cars on fire. Are any of those recent models? Why are they all old? Have you seen the videos from NY protests of plain-clothes officers trying to blend in as the protestors and then being the ones trying to rile up the mob? There's so many out there. It's intense. Bottom line. We don't need an occupying force. Why? By the way, for what its worth, my brother works as a military officer and spent several tours in Iraq. He noted to me this week that the police they trained in Iraq handled de-escalation and handling prisoners better than we're seeing from Joe Cop in Anywhere USA. We don't need idiots pretending to be soldiers in Minneapolis. We need people from the community who understand the community and know how to keep people safe while allowing all of their constitutional freedoms — including and especially the right for assembly and protest.

These all seem like projections. It appears that I am anything anyone wants me to be. Y'all are pretty good at proving your need to insist on defining other peoples identities for them.... very interesting way of dealing with people for a bunch of "not racists." ?

It is straight up a mental degenerative disease. It's groupthink and laziness. I am also embarrassed to know Bills fans like the PPP trolls are among us. Cheers on giving them a bit of the reality check. These goofballs have no idea what a bubble they live in. They really have bought all the ***** to thinking they are the "real America"

Again you think your opinion on intelligence is somehow... coveted. I don't know why you have this idea. Why would I want your approval on intelligence? I got sidetracked before expressing this full thought in the other post but — how do you not realize why I am here? How is it not blisteringly clear? It's to make fun of people like you. It's whack a racist. You guys just keep popping your heads up. And you have nothing original to say. There's no great new theories in race from racists. It's the same old stuff. So you just have nooooo concept of how easy ***** is to spot. So it's really been nothing but honesty from me the whole time. That should be pretty obvious actually, it's clear thorughout. You're getting nothing but honesty from me. You think these ***** yous are insincere? So there you have it, again -- you can't even judge honesty/dishonesty accurately when its in front of your face, you're so biased you can't take in basic information. I mean I could imagine you arguing with a stop sign that it actually says go, at this point.

No no no. This is not a court of law. I don't give a single ***** about proving anything to you. I am telling you - you're racist. You know yourself and if that's true or not. You seem very preoccupied with what I think, you know, or what the definitive statement is. All of this proves your cluelessness. You assume you can be static one thing or the other. You seem to be possessed of the idea that it is inconceivable that you could be racist, ever in your life, and certainly nowhere on this board. You don't see how much it gives you away. It's amusing.

Last chance, bucky, then you're going on ignore. COINTELPRO. Tell me. Repeat the same post and I don't see you again. I shouldn't even give you the chance. But I'd love to see you learn. Can ya do it, bucky? Can ya try real hard?

Yeah I gave you literally the same answer. All of your dumbass posts are obviously coming from the sausage fingers of a racist brain, breathing heavily from your mouth in all likelihood and smelling of urine. You've done nothing but reinforce that image. You're actually quite like the police here, I guess. Protestors: Stop excessive police violence! Police: (are excessively violent) GregPersons: Prove you're not a racist dumbass! Chef Jim: (is a huge racist dumbass)

Tell me the legacy of COINTELPRO and you will have your answer. You still haven't found it. This is... odd is putting it lightly. How many of your posts are just you repeating yourself? Hard to say if this tactic is more disgusting in that you're obviously attempting to be intimidating, kinda internet tough guy and its adorable, I love that on you.... or that your'e really just so dull. I thought 3rd-ining was the bottom of the barrel in terms of ability to form thoughts. I may have been underestimating you...!

Wow, no. At best, that is incomplete. That is not the primary legacy of COINTELPRO and that is not the reason I bring it up in relation to your black on black refrain. You don't have it. I won't spoil the surprise. I mean it's in the wikipedia page for gods sake if you really dont know. Now, admittedly its a long wikiepdia page, so you're gonna have to do some sleuthing and deductive work even there. But your perfect brain... I have faith in it. Try again! Do you think we're paid by the word, post, or hour? Guess my rate.

You've only made 100 incorrect conclusions so far in our strange new friendship, each one more insane than the last, but yeah keep guessing! I am now.... Chinese, Canadian, Black, White, Antifa, Italian socialist, Marxist, and also I'm a Ghostbuster and in the Men in Black and I'm ***** all of your mothers. Also you still didn't answer the question. You know as much about COINTELPRO as Rhino knows about Marx. You're all full of *****.

Okay, chill. (Edit - "chill" as in "that's cool" not "chill" as in "chill out/calm down"). We're more on the same page than we aren't, or at least, more than I expected. You are correct on these points, or rather, these I strongly agree with —This is a police state problem —This is an everybody problem —This affects white people and black people both —Crime is caused by poverty —Black people have been systemically impoverished because of crimes that have not been addressed since, and arguably, are ongoing. (Well, I'm maybe taking the points you made on this a little further in connecting the dots but correct me if you disagree.) Reparations, IMO, would be only possible if it were something that White America saw as an honor. That would not happen this generation. But I can see that mindset happening. In the ways that Trump is sometimes a wildcard, it's occasionally been a flight of fantasy that maybe Trump could beat Democrats by co-opting the left — a lot of which aligns with libertarian goals — and mandating a stronger and more consistent social safety net. Universal health care. Basic universal income. Housing support, etc etc etc. It's not like the money ISN'T there for it. It's just the will isn't there. @Deranged Rhino lives in LA; if he's paying attention, he can tell you about places in Venice and Long Beach and elsewhere, where the money is earmarked for homeless shelters, but white NIMBYism prevents health care from being established and accessible. This is where the unity bit comes in too. White liberals are just as awful as the worst racists, sometimes; their goals can also line up alarmingly quickly. Libertarians would push back against national government services. Maybe. Or maybe they would compromise. Because maybe they would agree — as you said, crime is caused by poverty. Why were the Black Panthers created? It had nothing to do with intimidating White America... not at first, anyway. It was created to give kids breakfasts. They weren't getting breakfast before school. They needed care. They needed people looking out for them. The Black Panthers made sure their elderly got medical care and the children all had clothes and food. Later, the berets and the shades and the guns (btw, remember when the NRA was actually very pro-gun legislation? yeah its when black ppl had the guns out in the open). Freedom isn't possible without security. Not security in the sense of like, fences and guns and cameras and physical protection. I mean security in the sense of basic human necessities. America has the resources to do this. We could live to see a generation make this happen. You provide every single American with the same baseline of services offered -- imagine having tangible benefits of being a legal citizen (which also encourages illegal immigrants to apply for citizenship through legal channels) like UBI and M4A. Imagine not having to work if you didn't want to. And being able to get by, not living on much, but maybe you needed time off to... for whatever reason. Kids. Death in the family. Just wanted a change. Imagine having that opportunity. And why the ***** not? Automation is here. What we need is ingenuity. We need people using their creative skills in productive ways. We don't need Deranged Rhino playing Racist Riddler here. We need him doing something that can challenge fossil fuel companies and accelerate clean energy. Just to name but one existential threat off the top of my head. Instead it's ... such.... stupid.... preventable.... *****. We should have learned this ages ago. It is very annoying that people are still pretending this is hard.

Was my prompt for you unclear? Do you just feel like if you repeat yourself enough, at some point it's going to become a good point? Unfortunately arguments, unlike any woman you've likely slept with, can't be worn down into just giving in through persistent badgering. Chef Jim, also a badgerer. You guys should go jack each other off, I think, unless you want to just keep coming back for me to call you a stupid bootlicking *****face who ISN'T VERY GOOD at hiding his racism. You guys are OBVIOUSSSSS!!!! If you have not received that message before, you now have!!! PEOPLE CAN TELL IT IS NOT HARD TO SPOT In fact, one big bonus to waking up, to becoming "woke" as you'd say, is you then can spot it in others. It's like the arrow in the FedEx logo. Once you see it, you can't NOT see it.