FireChans
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1 hour ago, HappyDays said:
No more confident than I felt about Gabe Davis last year after Beane elected not to sign Hopkins. Well that's not entirely true, I am more confident in Shakir than I was in Davis. But just because Beane chooses to elevate a player's role on the depth chart doesn't mean I inherently trust that he's correct.
Beane also elevated McKenzie to replace Beasley. Is McK even in the league anymore?
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11 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:
Go Tim Graham!!! Thanks for putting this behind a paywall. How about just reporting the news to the only (biggest) Bills fan board on the web. Maybe John Wawrow will give us some insight. Stay well, Kim! You’re the best.
You can just put your phone in reader mode and read the whole thing for free
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34 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
I'm leaning towards neither unless Rousseau finally hits his ceiling this year. We can't afford a mid-tier EDGE rusher who will probably get paid $10M+ and I don't think RT is important enough to give out a massive contract extension. I would let both walk and use the resulting savings to pay for a true difference making EDGE, and hopefully it will go better than the last time we tried that.
I hear ya.
problem is difference making EDGEs rarely hit FA unless they are old or injured.
I also think with these scrambling QB’s, and the way defenses move their EDGE players around, good RT’s are becoming more and more valuable. I’d also like some long term stability at one of the book end positions if Dawkins doesn’t finish his extension (which I suspect may be likely).
100% agreement in Rousseau. He’s closer to prime Shaq Lawson than a difference maker and that’s a player you let the Panthers overpay for in FA.
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Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said:
It is a little strange.
That’s a Broncos situation upcoming imo
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Eesh that’s really sad for Kim.
I didn’t realize the daughter’s husband got fired
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23 hours ago, BarleyNY said:
It makes no sense to me not to lean into Allen’s talent. I’m all for getting him help in any form on the offense or team. But I do not understand why we’d take the ball out of his hands and lean into running to shorten the game. it feels like McDermott is protecting his defense at the expense of the offense and the team overall.
Probably the TO’s.
I think if you polled every single defensive background coach in the NFL and asked the one thing that is the most important for the offensive to do, it would be not turn it over.
Not saying they are right or wrong, it’s just ingrained in their DNA. It’s why McKenzie and Cook were shown the bench everytime they let go of the football.
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5 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:
I was hoping that the Jets would take him just like it was a good thing when the Pats took Mac or the Jets took Zach Wilson. You’re at least going to give him 2-3 seasons of failure before moving on. Tyrod is a very good backup and with that Jets roster will be at least .500 if he has to play 6 games. McCarthy, imo, could have been 1-5.
He’s AJ McCarron
OSU Kyle McCord fan.
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The big re-signing debate to come is Spencer Brown.
we had to extend Dawkins for cap relief, so it will be interesting to see what Brown gets after last season. If he maintains that level of play and remains healthy, he may be the highest paid RT on the market next season.
I think it’s between him and Rousseau for big money extensions, and imo I’d take Brown.
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19 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:
Well, McDermott is his boss. Why wouldn’t he call games like his boss wanted him to do? I would think they spoke about that before Brady took over - and throughout the season. Seems like he was on board enough to take the job.
I hear you. I don’t think it’s malicious or anything, I think he ran the offense McD wanted.
I think it’s just more proof that he will run what McD wants going forward.
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1 hour ago, VW82 said:
Huh? We hardly wasted any years with Jim as a top 2 QB (if he ever was that...Marino, Elway, Aikman, Montana, Young, Favre).
Our defense was ranked 4th, 2nd, and 1st the last three years. We had one of the top wideouts in the game. We had home field and the ball in this last one. Just because we've repeatedly fallen short vs. KC, that doesn't make them wasted years. Josh came up short this last time. Is he a wasted player too?
I don't think history will look back kindly on the last 4 years of the Bills, just as we don't look back kindly on the 2012-2015 Colts.
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33 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
Why would they let their OC have major influence? He's their 3rd in 4 years. Under McDermott it's written in stone that we'll have to hire a new OC every 2-3 years because the current one will always eventually be fired or hired away as a head coach. And it's not like McDermott is dictating the long-term offensive philosophy beyond a vague oversight. So any time we add players to the offense it won't be with any particular system in mind. They're going to throw a bunch of low investment guys at the coach and tell him and Allen to figure it out.
A lot of fans have seemingly convinced themselves that small ball, ball control offense has been the plan all along. I don't think that's true at all. I think the personnel investments have forced that to be the only valid offensive philosophy we can use this year. Is it what Brady wants? The guy that coached an LSU offense featuring Ja'Marr Chase and Justin Jefferson? Color me skeptical. But it's the offense he'll get and he'll like it, or else we'll cycle on through to the next offensive coach getting their feet wet.
we need to hire an OC whose already failed at being HC so we can keep him for 4+ years.
McDaniels maybe
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6 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:
I do actually think it was the plan all along
I think it's a mistake, but I believe that Brady is going to execute the kind of offense McDermott wants
Some talking head somewhere said that Brady was basically trying to call the offense McD wanted for the last 8 weeks so he could get the job.
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14 hours ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:
You have a QB that's a Maserati. He's built for bombs away. But instead of building your offense for that, you build it for plodding, 10 yards at a time max, 10 minute drive offense. So I ask, what is the point?
What's the point of having a guy who's designed by nature to bomb the football deep and whose weakness is dink and dunk stuck in an offensive scheme that is built to do just that?
Why not offload him for someone who's better suited for that kind of thing if you refuse to play to his strengths? That's what I can't wrap my head around. It makes no sense.
I'll bite.
Josh has been at his best when they get him in rhythm early, and he has multiple quality receiving targets capable of getting open in the intermediate range of the field. You can watch highlights of his 2020 season, he is not launching bombs every game. Were they there sometimes? Yes. But he made his money with Diggs-to-Beasley progression on 12 to 18 yard throws.
This is illustrated by his 2020 and 2021 seasons where his intended air yards/target were the two lowest of his career. And in 2020, playing in the intermediate range, his on-target percentage was the best of his career.
Once Beasley fell off a cliff in 2021, Diggs was used more in the slot, and there hasn't been the two man game that made Josh so deadly in 2020 since. Gabe Davis was the inconsistent bomb deep threat you are looking for, and he was not a reliable target. Then the IOL and Dorsey were both disasters in 2022 and Josh slipped back into his old tendencies a bit as his WR group got worse every year.
In summation, attacking the intermediate-middle of field is where most great QB's make their money. Josh used to be able to do that with an elite outside WR and a near elite slot WR. Just like Mahomes did with his elite outside WR and his elite slot/TE at a higher level (outside of that blistering bombs away 2018 season).
If Josh gets those kind of weapons again, and an OC that doesn't get completely figured out by week 10 and not have a counter-punch, he will cruise again.
10 minutes ago, HappyDays said:I agree but our first OL pick this year was in the 5th round despite it being a very deep OL class. With all the talk of WRs this point has been passed over.
If the plan is to play small ball, ball control offense, we don't have an IOL built for that IMO. McGovern and Edwards are mediocre or worse run blockers. Not sure about Torrence yet but he has potential to very good against the run. Still that isn't a good enough trio if that's going to be our philosophy.
I take the point that the Bills are trying to build a more physical offense but like you said that needs to start up front and they totally neglected that early in the draft.
I'll be honest, I don't think there is a coherent plan here. The pieces on offense don't complement each other. Seems like the plan (again) is to trust that Josh and his OC will make it work.
The question that needs to be asked is, "how much influence does Joe Brady have today?"
The answer, imo, is very little. Beane and McD are running the show. I have no doubts McD and Daboll butted heads over certain things which explains their chilly relationship, but I think he had a voice. I think Brady is closer to a sycophant when it comes to the big decisions.
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5 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:
He is? 😱
2 minutes ago, MJS said:Yannick Ngakoue or Bud Dupree would be nice. Similar to the Floyd signing last offseason.
Of the receivers, only Tyler Boyd or Corey Davis move the needle much for me.
I don't think we need to sign veterans at the other positions you mentioned.
guys
https://www.newyorkjets.com/news/jets-wr-corey-davis-retirement-nfl
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1 hour ago, LabattBlue said:
I wouldn’t mind Corey Davis. Pretty sure he is an outside guy
So desperate, we are chasing after dudes who are retired
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Lots of folks saying “pay him,” but if your choice was Spencer Brown or Rousseau at $15M per season, I think I pick Brown.
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6 hours ago, NewEra said:
Do we agree that the team they’ve lost to for 3 of the last 4 years is going to go down as a dynasty with one of the best quintets in NFL history in Mahomes, Kelce, Jones, Reid and Spags? We were an executed play/‘s away in 2 of those season enders. It’s his job to find a way….but the same can be said for the players. Injuries, execution and play calls all play a huge factor in why his roster didn’t beat a dynasty
Exactly my point.
If you want to get past the modern dynasty, being the third or fourth best GM with significant weaknesses is NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
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2 hours ago, Bangarang said:
You know what a #1 receiver is without having it defined for you. This is like asking what a franchise QB is and saying we could get by with a guy like Tyrod because Nick Foles won a SB at one point.
It’s like that pornography ruling. You know it when you see it.
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55 minutes ago, bearstobills said:
All good points. Although I love both of the last RB picks. I think James Cook fundamentally signaled a complete change of direction for this offense. Undynamic Singletary was replaced with very dynamic Cook. They did it again the next year upgrading Knox with Kincaid. They had Diggs over the last 4 years so a #1 was not a priority. I'm wondering....how did you want them to address wr in this year's draft?
I think a trade up was probably unrealistic. Coleman wasn’t my favorite either but whatever. I would’ve drafted another in the mid rounds.
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8 minutes ago, bearstobills said:
Again. Respectfully disagree. A first and third round TE. Running backs....a 2nd, two 3rds, and a 4th, WR-Traded your first for Diggs, and used a 1rst this year (I know it was actually a 2nd) on Keon, and a 4th on Gabe.
I agree that he has passed on some great receivers. The Ford pick with DK and Brown on the board is haunting. But every gm has those scars. You make the point that at least the Chiefs have tried. But it's been one bad move after another. In the Skyy Moore draft, Beane gets Shakir in the 5th. That's way better use of resources.
But yes, he's been afraid to pull the trigger on wide receivers. But he also knows that championships are won in the trenches. Teams that build with weapons, like Miami and the Raiders never win. I don't think it's a fatal flaw. And if Coleman hits, this entire conversation changes. Just so you know, if we would have picked Devontez Walker in the 3rd. I'd still be dancing. We didn't. Time will tell if Dewayne Carter ends up being better at his job than Franklin or Tez. Also, if Beane had a chance at a Rome Odunze or a Jamar Chase, he'd NEVER pass. He just hasn't had the chance.
But I'm concerned about this receiver room. I like the Coleman pick. He could have played it safe with Ladd (who I loved), but he swung for the fences. I appreciate that. I thought we needed another. They went in a different direction (I'm rooting for you Dewayne Carter!!). But yes, we are both concerned about this receiver room. Who I'm not concerned with is Brandon Beane.
I don’t think it’s a 1:1 when talking about TE’s or RB’s vs WR’s. Running backs are a proven bad investment with day 2 picks. That’s a terrible use of resources. Even TE’s are bad investments in the first.
Brandon Beane has spent way more draft capital on TE’s and RB’s than WR’s in the last 4 seasons. That’s Stone Age strategy. The economy of the WR in the NFL has been exploding. RB’s are struggling to get signed to second contracts.
That’s exactly the kind of thinking I’m talking about that’s a total fatal flaw. It’s like prioritizing OG’s over OT’s in the draft.
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18 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:
I was under the impression Shaw was saying the scheme would get guys open (because that's what he said) and you were saying those other teams had star athletes and that's what everything was built around. In NE, KC, or on the Rams the offense will move on whether it's Kupp, Welker, Rice, Edelman, Nacua, or Tyreek. Given our offense played well down the stretch and Shakir was our best WR over that period I'm not feeling down on the offense.
Cooper Kupp was a solid WR for years and then exploded as a triple crown winner with Stafford at QB. Then he battled some injuries and they brought in Nakua and he did great.
thats a far different situation than adding Coleman and Samuel to Shakir.
KC’s offense has been fine because Mahomes is great, but their offense is far less potent since trading Hill. Conversely, Miami’s offense exploded after adding Hill to pair with Waddle.
It’s the talent. And we don’t have much proof we have it. Which was the point.
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14 minutes ago, bearstobills said:
I'd be interested to know what those fatal flaws are. I'm guessing you are referring to not surrounding our qb with elite weapons. We lost to the Chiefs last year who had a worse receiving core than we did. So clearly the Super Bowl champion aren't much better at surrounding their qb with elite weapons. They used 2nd round picks on Sky Moore and Mecole Harman, Selected CEH in the first round!!, traded away the best receiver in football in his prime, traded a 3rd pick for Kadarius Toney, and used a 4th round pick on Jehu Chessen. Those are Veach's moves since Mahomes. Yet, he has 3 super bowls. Is he better at this than Beane is?
Mahomes is a better QB than Allen and Reid is a better coach than McD.
Veach has struggled to replace the offensive weapons around Mahomes after the Hill trade but he has tried. He recognizes the problem and is trying to fix it. As we all know, no GM is perfect. Of course, he also built a great OL and a great defense as a consolation prize.
Beane hasn’t recognized that problem. I would infinitely prefer him trying and failing to not recognizing it. That’s the true fatal flaw, imo.
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1 minute ago, bearstobills said:
And I've loved every minute of it. Again I was a lifelong Bears fan. They've never had a run of sustained excellence like this. The Nills haven't gotten over the hump, but that in no way constitutes any kind of failure. We seem to both agree that they have been a top 3 team over the past 5 years. I will sign up for that over the next five years also. Because that will give them a chance to win the Super Bowl every one of those years.
We do agree that they have been a top 3 team, we don’t agree who deserves the lion’s share of that credit.
I just think BB has some fatal flaws that will ultimately cost us in the end.
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1 minute ago, Solomon Grundy said:
Wasn't Nacua putting up numbers when Kupp was out injured?
Yeah he did.
Calling it now: You're all about to witness the arrival of Shakir
in The Stadium Wall
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