[Pounding the table for Christian Watson at 25]

I don’t know, great athlete but why didn’t he dominate the FCS like someone with his size and speed should have? 

[Who’s the ONE guy you want the Bills to draft no matter what? 2022 version]

Jelani Woods. Freak athlete. 

[Rumor: Bills want to move up in draft, may move a veteran or two to accomplish it]

28 minutes ago, Tipster19 said:

I don’t know if this has already been posted but I found it to be a fair assessment.

 

https://buffalowdown.com/2022/04/03/3-veterans-buffalo-bills-trade-2022-nfl-draft/amp/4/

 

If two were to go I wouldn’t be upset if it were Edmunds and Ford. 

As much hate as Edmunds gets if he was traded that would leave a big hole in the middle of the defense that they would just have to address using a draft pick on a roster that is set up for a super bowl run. 

[TSW Mock Draft Buffalo Bills Poll - Who should the Bills take at 57? ***Poll closing at 8p est 4/3/22]

43 minutes ago, Rhode Island Red said:

I’m with at least a few here who have little to no familiarity with these names.  That said, watching the highlights of Tyler Smith, he’s obviously big, strong, quick but even to me didn’t really look like a tackle prospect.

Kenneth Walker III, on the other hand, made my day.  Call me simple, tell me I’m being my usual sucker for eye candy, whatever,  but the notion of a possibly useful/future OL vs. an almost assured impact RB made it an easy vote.  Glad I held off until I had some basis to vote…

 

Edit PS: Motor has good eyes, quick moves, and is a tough nut when it counts, which I love him for. Walker looks to me like he is all of that, plus he brings a fluidity in his moves that reminds me of Fred Jackson…with speed that Devin/Freddie could only dream about.

How is Walker supposed to make an impact when the Bills were brutal at run blocking last year? And pass blocking. Josh was the most pressured QB in the league last year, including games where Bates started. Need to protect the 260 million dollar man.

[An Idea for a potential Bills draft trade down with Atlanta!]

13 minutes ago, Process said:

Lol, that might get us to 24. What else are you giving up to move an additional 9 spots?

Might move us back a few spots honestly due to the team having to take on their salary. 

[Bills eyeing Gilmore…Hmmmm 🤔]

Just now, ScottLaw said:

The greatest coach of all time had no issues paying him on their way to another SB victory.

I’d take Gilmore back in a heartbeat. Can you blame him for how he allegedly acted on garbage teams? Id be pissed too if I was him.

[Breece Hall Please!!]

23 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

I disagree with this. Did you see what he did at Wisconsin? His only lineman that got drafted was Biadasz. JT28 was a talent that made others better. 

Wisconsin plays in the big ten all they do is run the ball, it’s nothing compared to SEC football. No one cares if you run for 200 yards vs. Illinois. And this is the NFL, you think he’d be able to run over NFL defenses like he did at Wisconsin with the Bills run blocking? Absolutely not. 

[TSW Mock Draft Buffalo Bills Poll - Who should the Bills take at 57? ***Poll closing at 8p est 4/3/22]

45 minutes ago, Magnum Force said:

I want a Superbowl.. A top shelf RB like Walker gets us closer.  I do like Woolen but that is overkill since we already took McDuffie in achieving it. 

 
A top shelf RB doesn’t get us any closer considering the Oline is horrible at run blocking. Tyler Smith was my vote. Zamir White in round 3, James Cook or Pierce Strong in round 4 would have a lot of success running behind an improved oline.

[Breece Hall Please!!]

13 hours ago, IronMaidenBills said:

They don’t know what they are doing when it comes to RB evaluation. Even if a player like Wade is lacking football IQ, you find ways to get him in space. Same with runners like CJ Spiller. We passed on Jonathan Taylor for crying out loud. Breece Hall is the next Jonathan Taylor, so it wouldn’t surprise me if we don’t take him, because we wouldn’t know talent at the RB spot if it bit us. 

Even if the Bills drafted JT he wouldn’t have nearly the same success here as he has in Indy because they have a really good oline and the Bills don’t. 

[Breece Hall Please!!]

I can’t wait for them to not draft Breece Hall so we can stop talking about using a high draft pick on a running back who would just be running into his own offensive line cuz they can’t run block.

[2022 Free Agency - Around the NFL Thread]

11 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said:

I'm not gonna hate on the guy because he is a very good CB but he does get scorched a lot against Josh. I feel it's because a lot of our games against them get out of reach pretty early and it just snatches the life and motivation of their players. Maybe it'll be different this year.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Josh Allen is to Dolphins fans what Brady was to Bills fans for so many years, the guy who just always plays amazing against you. Josh is 7-1 vs the dolphins with the only loss coming his rookie year cuz Charles Clay couldn’t catch a football. I’ve started to worry more about Jets games than Dolphins games. 

[What to do at CB?]

2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

I would say the two biggest foundational needs at this point are a future LT who can play well at guard or RT right now...........and a WR1 with great speed and/or RAC ability.    Deficient blocking and a lack of RAC ability from the WR corps cost them regular season games and subsequently home field advantage last year.........but beyond that those are 2 of the 4 most important positions on the roster(QB1/PassRusher1/LT1/WR1) and they can't allow those expensive and difficult to re-stock positions to decline.

 

Those players are what round 1 and to a good extent round 2 are for, IMO.

 

Everything else is a clear notch or more below in priority for this team.

 

They really don't NEED another stud cover corner to play in their zone scheme.........if it happens organically.........say you draft and develop a guy with both man and zone skills in the mid rounds.........great.........but unless the defense is going to make a fundamental change to more man coverage you don't really NEED two pro bowl cover guys in this system.    Not saying Andrew Booth wouldn't be worth the pick at #25.........but I'd hope to address the positions where the individual skill level would be more impactful for the team going forward.

I personally really like Bernhard Raimann, describes a lot of what you’re looking for. 

[What to do at CB?]

6 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said:

You're right. My math was wrong. (That chart is outdated, anyway) But, I never said top ten, and I didn't say that draft picks were the only assets that Beane would, or should consider. I'm saying if Beane feels there is a CB worth the assets he's willing to spend, and another team is willing, he would pull the trigger. He has before. I was also making the point that we are, like last season, drafting for primarily backup positions. Multiple draft picks are more valuable to a team that has room for them on their roster, right? What good are draft picks if they get poached off the PS? That happened to us twice last season.

Yeah, I screwed up the math, but that's really not the point. Trade-ups in the first happen, and Beane has done it three times, plus Diggs.

 

BTW, that trade for Adams was hella steep, but he got 9.5 sacks for Seattle in his first season there.

The point I’m trying to make is Beane is aiming at prolonged success. He’s not willing to mortgage the future to win now (at this point at least). Even without trading draft picks though, he’s made a lot of good moves. Would I be mad if he did and the Bills won it all? Not at all. 

[I don't think WR is a need. We got a breakout star on our roster already]

I thought this was going to be a Gabe Davis thread and was mildly disappointed when it wasn’t.

[What to do at CB?]

31 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said:

 

Beane traded up for Ford, Edmunds, and Josh Allen. He traded a first for Diggs. If he feels the value is there, he'll make the trade-- not "just to take one," but because he sees the value. The top three CBs in the draft are expected to be gone by #25.  In 2020, Seattle traded two firsts, and a second for S Jamal Adams from the Jets. Trades in the first round happen every draft, and they often work out. And consider also that CB is one of the few positions that has not been addressed in FA. Peterson re-signed with the Vikes for $4mil. That's what Levi's getting with the Steelers. 

 

 

How did that trade work out for Seattle? You also said 25+57 would get the Bills all the way up to 4, which even from the chart you shared wasn’t factual, and even less so in real life. 

[What to do at CB?]

Just now, Rocky Landing said:

First of all, a trade up would include our pick #25. It's not such an outrageous idea-- Beane has done it twice. Secondly, there are other assets besides draft picks. There is a rumor circulating right now that a trade up would include a vet player. Regardless, according to the standard trade value chart, our first, and second round picks would equate to the fourth overall pick. 

In what world do you live in where 25+57 would get you to 4? No team would ever do that, I don’t care what the dumb chart says. 

[What to do at CB?]

13 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said:

Last season-- much like this season-- we were drafting primarily for backup positions, with the only notable exception being our first round pick. There was no room on the 53 for the later round picks, and they ended up on the practice squad as developmental players. The two with the most potential, Rashad Wildgoose, and Jack Anderson, were poached by other teams, rendering them utterly wasted draft picks. 

 

IMO, the question is less a matter of there being "reason in trading up," and more a question of "why not trade up?" If there isn't any room for the later round picks on the team (and, I suspect there isn't) then why not use those picks to get a better prospect at CB? Not capitalizing on the value of later round picks seems much crazier to me than trading up for better potential.

 

I do agree that "McDs defense has made many late round or undrafted guys look good." Levi Wallace, and Ike Boettger are perfect examples of that. But, obviously, being a player that other teams don't want as much is not a selling point to them, or anyone else.

Well those 6ths and 7th are useless for trading up, unless it’s into the 5th. Do we really want to sacrifice our 2nd to move up 5-8 spots? I don’t know, that’s Beane’s job I guess. And for the record, I’m not even in the 1st round CB or bust group. I want the best player available, I don’t care if he’s a OT, DE, DT, or LB. Just go get a guy who can play. I’d be fine with a corner in rounds 2-4.

[2022 Free Agency - Around the NFL Thread]

1 hour ago, Magnum Force said:

Hayden, Rhodes and JC Tretter are still out there.  Tretter is a WNYer and wonder if he would consider a lower contract to come home and play for a potential Super Bowl

Bills already have a center. Tretter hasn’t played OT since his early years in the NFL. I’d give sign him as competition for Bates/Brown if he came cheap.

[What to do at CB?]

22 minutes ago, HurlyBurly51 said:

Just sign already!

Would work with me. 

[Rumor: Bills want to move up in draft, may move a veteran or two to accomplish it]

Although this draft at a surface level lacks a ton of high end elite talent, it is very deep due to the extra Covid year players got. Bills could get multiple starters if they play their cards right out of this draft. The OL class in particular is one I’ve been looking into extensively and it is very deep with players who project as solid starters at minimum. 

[2022 WR List…who do you like?]

I want Burks but I have a feeling the Bills don’t.

[Buffalo was in on Patrick Peterson]

So Beane is clearly planning to sign a vet CB before the draft…awesome to hear.

[What to do at CB?]

1 hour ago, newcam2012 said:

From most draft experts, this draft lacks stud players. Imho, the draft seems to be deep in quality wide receivers. Surely, any deemed stud players will be gone before pick 25. There are always diamonds in the rough. 

Every year a player drops for a number of reasons, whether it’s a run on QB’s, or a run on WR/CB/Edge, something comes up off the field the week of the draft. If they draft BPA I could see an Edge rusher or DT being there, maybe even one of the top OT. We will see how Beane follows his board. But if they draft Gordon or McCreary in round 1 that would surely be a reach. 

[TSW Mock Draft Buffalo Bills Poll - Who should the Bills take at 25?]

39 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

Personally I think Kyler Gordon should be the CB listed. He's the only CB available that would be a realistic pick for the Bills at 25.

I think Elam has a shot at being there.

[Gabe Davis working]

22 minutes ago, Tanoros said:

Agree. I feel like with where we sit currently, whoever our first round pick is, they need to be someone who can come in and contribute day 1, even if that’s on special teams and depth at offense or defense. We are primed for a super bowl run and we need all hands on deck. 

 
Dohtson wouldn’t be a huge contributor from day 1, he’d be the 4th wide receiver. Not the way a corner would contribute day 1, or even a stud OT/OG or a stud DT like Wyatt or Davis if they drop to the Bills. If you say the Bills are primed for a Super Bowl run shouldn’t they aim for an immediate contributor?