Hermes

So basically you think the Bills are totally overmatched and have no shot at winning. Unless of course you see them winning, in which case it's most likely a fluke

Last time they played the Bills lost a nail biter in which they had an opportunity to win at the end. Not saying anything about the weather. As for matchups the Pats rushing offense is a plus for them and the Bills passing defense is a plus for the Bills, even without Tre. The Bills passing offense is a plus for the Bills and the Pats rushing Defense is a plus for the Pats. Overall it shapes up to be an even matchup with the Bills probably edging out the Pats in terms of overall talent while the Pats have the edge in coaching. So while I can see where you're coming from, the matchups aren't as abysmal as all of the 'realists' say they are. It's one thing to look objectively at things but to look only at how the Bills matchup negatively and determine they'll lose based solely on a few metrics is pessimistic to be honest. (From a fans perspective, the media who don't follow the team are irrelevant) I'm expecting a tight game for the most part with the Bills coming out on top. Also, based on the teams' strengths and weaknesses, I'd be much less surprised if the Bills blowout the Pats than the other way around.

Optimism. Sarcasm. Irony. That's why it's surprising. I guess I should just be so literal and dull that anyone who's negative on the boards can revel in their echo chamber

The big surprise is that there's actually experts picking the Pats!

I suppose the way I look at it is the ultimate goal of the Bills is to field a Superbowl winning team. While I may not have clearly stated what I meant in my previous statements, I have been using that as my barometer for the 'accomplishments' of which I speak. So your perception of me moving the goalposts has, in essence been me clarifying what my initial viewpoint was/is. My apologies for not clearly expressing what I meant initially. To your second point, you're obviously not going to fill a roster with free agents who have Superbowl experience, the premise is absurd. Therefore the way to have a roster of which you and I speak, is to first win a Superbowl and then to draft well. That gives you the experience and expectations of the now 'older' players and the young guns cutting their teeth. So far the Bills have Championship game experience and need to take the next step. Will this be the year? Possibly! We won't know for another few weeks at the very least and about a month and half otherwise.

Genuinely curious. How many Superbowls have those players collectively played in/won? Morse with KC? Sanders has a few Maybe Hyde when he was with GB? The point being that while some of these players have solid (not spectacular) individual accomplishments, not many on the roster have experienced sustained team success at a high level, in the NFL. Which is what the Bills as an organization are looking to build. So in that regard the Bills are still 'young' and cutting their teeth so to speak.

You sir are mistaken! There is no process to these thoughts. That being said, yes. Allen and the other leaders on the team are young and learning how to be the big dogs in the league. Nevermind a lot of the older players on the roster, they haven't actually accomplished much in the league. Therefore they don't offer much in the way of guidance towards being a perennial contender or great team if you will.

You might be right about that.. nevertheless my premise stands! If the Bucs weren't so physically exhausted from playing the Bills they never would've gotten injured. They simply couldn't recover in time for the Saints!

Having an MVP caliber QB, a strong WR core, and one of the leagues top defenses is what the Bills were heading into the season with, after lighting it up last year and coming within a game if the Superbowl. I'm sure the rest of the league holds teams like the Jets in the same regard. While the Bills have largely disappointed so far this year, there's still 3 games left to play before the postseason. I'm not sure how many people would say ending the year on a four game winning steak would be considered fizzling out, but I may be wrong. Granted it has yet to happen, although a win against the Pats this weekend makes it very probable. So many people speak as if the season is over and the Bills are just looking to close out the season with some positive momentum for next year. News flash; They're not! There's a very real chance they end up AFCE champs and the second seed in the playoffs. Anyway, I'd love to hear who's going to win the Superbowl this year since you so accurately predicted the demise of the Bills and I'd love to throw down some cash on that.

Definitely. The AFC North and AFC West are brutal this year!

*The Bills have young leaders learning how to lead a team to sustained success. None one is looking at Addison, Star, Hughes, Darryl Williams, Mitch Morse, Emmanuel Sanders, or any other aging vet and expecting long term returns from them. Everyone knows that these players are long in the tooth and will more than likely be replaced in the coming seasons. That being said they're important to how the roster is currently structured and while they play their roles the true team leaders Allen, Diggs, Ed Oliver, Dion Dawkins, Edmunds, Milano, Tre White and others are still early in their NFL careers and hence are still learning how to be a great team. All of these players could feasibly play another 5-10 years and it wouldn't be considered a stretch. So the fact that they aren't even halfway through their careers I consider them young players. There's context to everything and while the Bills have one of the oldest rosters on paper, they have a solid young core of talented players that will be in the league longer than they've been thus far. While the Bills, as an organization, are looking to keep as much of this roster intact for as long as possible, given the salary requirements each player will demand. Ideally most of the core players will be staples of the Bills organization for the foreseeable future and will help to train those that they know will eventually replace them. Everyone on here likes to talk about the Bills Superbowl window being only a few short years, while the Bills organization is planning on keeping it open indefinitely. They're looking to be the next Pats, Steelers, Colts, Packers, etc.. (perennial contenders) not some flash in the pan team

The way I see it is the NFC is more top heavy compared to the AFC and the AFC has more depth at the top end than the NFC. Just looking at it briefly there's only a few AFC teams that are truly awful. While the majority of the NFC teams are bad

Honestly I hope they put McKenzie in that spot and see how he does there. He might surprise. From what we've seen last year he won't disappoint and has the speed the Beasley lacks. Not that Beasley doesn't get open. I'd just like to see McKenzie more involved offensively and this is a prime opportunity for him

We'll have to see how things go!

I appreciate the insight bud. I'm sure you're a hit offline!

I mean Bill Belichick told his team they might remember the game against the Bills for decades. How did he feel about it?

Chill out bud, you think I care what random internet strangers think about my opinions!? 😂 It's a message board not a job interview. We haven't lost 1 this year. The Bills are focused on the real one. Get it straight. The Bills are a young team learning the ropes. They aren't some perennial contender looking to continue their success, in a few years we might look back and think how did this team lose 6 games back in '21.

The Bills have more wins than losses and when they win this weekend are in the driver's seat for the AFCE. We won't know for a few weeks how this will play out but I'm betting the Bills are gonna end up better for it at the end of the day

After 5 of the Bills 6 losses this year the team who beat them has lost the following week. Most recently, in convincing fashion, the Patriots and Bucaneers lost, while being atrocious on Run defense and on offense in general, respectively. That being said, have the Bills become such a massive game for opponents that they're so drained, physically, mentally, and emotionally, that they can hardly compete the following week!? The only team that won the following week was the Titans at full strength who were a load for any team that faced them.

The Bills defense narrowly missed out on multiple interceptions at that point and the offense wasn't playing terribly. I still don't agree with your assessment but I do agree with the point you're making about how they can both be true

The Bills at this point have more than double the points as the Panthers. Are they still getting out-played!?

To say that the Bills are getting rocked by the Panthers would be silly. There's certainly levels to how out-playing a team looks, if anything it's been an even game with the Bills showing they have more talent on the score board.

The Bills are up by 10. Wtf are you talking about!?

He's setting it up for the playoffs!

I don't understand that flag. If anything I was expecting it on Ford