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3 minutes ago, BBFL said:
Agreed. But kicking the can down the road on 1 year deals is moronic IMO. Even more if you aren’t able to extend or resign the player on that contract.
it’s not moronic in any way for a team in the Bills’ position.-
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1 hour ago, Billsflyer12 said:
What exactly are the “cap is not real” people mean when they say that constantly?
There are always real consequences for cap maneuvering, some just come sooner then later.
It’s hyperbole obviously, but it means that the cap is easily negotiated with some planning and utilization of various creative (and allowed) accounting and contracting practices, void years being just one. -
On 2/17/2024 at 7:05 PM, GunnerBill said:
I have seen it happen in soccer to an extent. The local rich guy done good is priced out by the billionaire and then the billionaire is priced out by the conglomerate.
It is the inveitable result of capitalism. Sports franchises retain their value better than almost any other asset.
And then the conglomerates get priced out by entire countries, literally.-
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26 minutes ago, mrags said:
The Bills announced today there will be an increase in current season tickets. Expect 10%. They also released SOME information regarding the process of ticket sales for the new stadium. Many already knew this information but might be helpful to some:
mods, feel free to merge with other new stadium threads
have you resubmitted your petition for a roof yet? 😀-
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1 hour ago, Awwufelloff said:
Because they didn’t beat the chiefs, chiefs, bengals, and chiefs.sitting on one aggregate stat and crying over it is, dont want to be too insulting, but it’s pathetic.
beating the piss outta various bad (and sometimes good!) teams during the regular season over the past 3 seasons doesn’t mean anything as far as winning championships.
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13 minutes ago, HurlyBurly51 said:
I'd take him back. What say you?
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24 minutes ago, butch rolle said:
Taron Johnson is better at his position than at least half those guys. Was he an oversight or an intentional omission?
100% oversight
T. Johnson - elite talent
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1 hour ago, gonzo1105 said:
First lets start by saying I hate their guts if only because of how good they are every year and they most years eliminate our Buffalo Bills. I will also fully recognize that probably this post will get crapped on by most Bills fans but the truth hurts sometimes.
This post will be an extension of another poster bringing it up but the reason why the Chiefs win every year is because they have the most top end players and coaching in the league and they always show up when the lights are the brightest.
Patrick Mahomes- Is the best QB in the league. Comes through 95% of the time with the game on the line and very rarely fails come playoff time. Josh Allen is a very close 2nd but doesn't have the supporting cast that he does.
Creed Humphrey/Joe Thuney, Trey Smith- Individually 2 out of the 3 could be in the argument for the best Center and Guard at their positions in the league and collectively are definitely the best interior line in football.
Travis Kelce- Maybe not the best TE this season and was shut down very early in the Super Bowl but as the game rolled on there was his presence. No bigger than the 22 yard scamper down the sideline to tie the game at the end of regulation. 9 catches for 93 yards.
Chris Jones- Maybe not huge on the stat line tonight but affected the pass and run game all night for the Chiefs. Makes the QB get off their mark. Cost the Bills at go ahead TD in the divisional game, harrassed Jackson and Purdy in both of the other games.
Trent McDuffie- All over the field making tons of plays and have sticky coverage. He might be the best slot CB in the league and he is still very young. Played great tonight.
L'Jarius Sneed- For the most part was good tonight besides giving up the TD to Jennings which was even still pretty good coverage. Gave up 1 TD all season long and could arguably considered the best outside CB in the NFL.
Harrison Butker- Guy has been as good if not better than Justin Tucker these last couple of seasons and there he was again tonight burying at 57 yards FG and then hitting the 28 yarder to get the game into OT. Tucker probably still the best Kicker but to me its 1A and 1B.
Andy Reid/Steve Spagnuolo- They continue to make adjustments at halftime and win games for their team. Spagnuolo was getting gashed early in the game in multiple ways but essentially shut down the 49ers offense in the 2nd half. The Chiefs also held the Bills to 7 second half points and completely shut down the Ravens in the AFC title game.
This doesn't even include the plethora of really good other players that they have including Pacheco, Rice, Karlaftis, Nnadi, Bolton, Gay, Justin Reid, and Townsend.
To me for the Bills, to get to the Chiefs level, they need to acquire more high end talent. It is simply amazing to me that Josh Allen has almost single handedly willed this Bills franchise to wins against the Chiefs in the playoffs. The Bills have talented players besides Allen but not to the level that the Chiefs. You can argue for Bills guys sure but at most positions the Chiefs have a guy who is better with the exception of LB and WR.
Josh Allen-elite talentEd Oliver-elite talent
Stefon Diggs-elite talent
Matt Milano-elite talent
James Cook-very good talent
Terrell Bernard-very good talent
Khalil Shakir-very good talent
Christian Benford-very good talent
Rasul Douglas-very good talent
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Jesus Christ. Allen is awesome. Top 2 QB 8in the league right now. I am beyond glad we took him over Rosen, or even Jackson. The Bills still f*ed up passing on Mahomes. That’s a fact and whatever you homers want to deflect or disassociate that’s fine.
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Just now, Calidiehard said:
What can you say to compare that he would? He has yet to play a game without a future hall of fame player or coach. We will see at some point.
So we’re waiting for a hall of famer to walk through and play for a season or two now? -
11 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said:
Hope and belief are two different things.
Seriously. 2nd thread this week that is just “get hype!” basically.
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12 minutes ago, Calidiehard said:
No. Mahomes wouldn't have become who he is without the team and coaching he had from the beginning.
lol sure. You can say that with nothing to compare it to. Again the ridiculous BS around here is astonishing. Glad the season’s over.-
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43 minutes ago, Riverboat Ritchie said:
I go back and forth on T Kelce as I sometimes like the new heights podcast but that shove of Reid was awful. Between him and Kermit really showing his true colors with the Allen cry baby fit during the handshake the year, I really think I hate the chiefs more than just the fact that they are good and win all the time.
Okay. Jesus this place is getting soft AF.-
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1 minute ago, gonzo1105 said:
I will thanks I want you to explain to me which high end talent outside of Tyreek Hill walked from their roster please share cause that all you got for me. Their roster is arguably the strongest its ever been in its entire run top to bottom. The general reasoning I'm getting is the Bills were banged up this year. I'm guessing your going to tell me the combo of Hill/Kelce/Mahomes was the reason the Bills didn't get by them in the past which then essentially what your telling me is that the Chiefs have had better talent historically and now. Which was my original point but thanks for input.
You want me to explain “outside of Hill” how they let top 3 talent walk and still won?-
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1 hour ago, Beast said:
Laugh all you ***** want.
The Bills and Bills Mafia will be celebrating our ever living asses off next February.
Just wait and see.
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51 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:
First lets start by saying I hate their guts if only because of how good they are every year and they most years eliminate our Buffalo Bills. I will also fully recognize that probably this post will get crapped on by most Bills fans but the truth hurts sometimes.
This post will be an extension of another poster bringing it up but the reason why the Chiefs win every year is because they have the most top end players and coaching in the league and they always show up when the lights are the brightest.
Patrick Mahomes- Is the best QB in the league. Comes through 95% of the time with the game on the line and very rarely fails come playoff time. Josh Allen is a very close 2nd but doesn't have the supporting cast that he does.
Creed Humphrey/Joe Thuney, Trey Smith- Individually 2 out of the 3 could be in the argument for the best Center and Guard at their positions in the league and collectively are definitely the best interior line in football.
Travis Kelce- Maybe not the best TE this season and was shut down very early in the Super Bowl but as the game rolled on there was his presence. No bigger than the 22 yard scamper down the sideline to tie the game at the end of regulation. 9 catches for 93 yards.
Chris Jones- Maybe not huge on the stat line tonight but affected the pass and run game all night for the Chiefs. Makes the QB get off their mark. Cost the Bills at go ahead TD in the divisional game, harrassed Jackson and Purdy in both of the other games.
Trent McDuffie- All over the field making tons of plays and have sticky coverage. He might be the best slot CB in the league and he is still very young. Played great tonight.
L'Jarius Sneed- For the most part was good tonight besides giving up the TD to Jennings which was even still pretty good coverage. Gave up 1 TD all season long and could arguably considered the best outside CB in the NFL.
Harrison Butker- Guy has been as good if not better than Justin Tucker these last couple of seasons and there he was again tonight burying at 57 yards FG and then hitting the 28 yarder to get the game into OT. Tucker probably still the best Kicker but to me its 1A and 1B.
Andy Reid/Steve Spagnuolo- They continue to make adjustments at halftime and win games for their team. Spagnuolo was getting gashed early in the game in multiple ways but essentially shut down the 49ers offense in the 2nd half. The Chiefs also held the Bills to 7 second half points and completely shut down the Ravens in the AFC title game.
This doesn't even include the plethora of really good other players that they have including Pacheco, Rice, Karlaftis, Nnadi, Bolton, Gay, Justin Reid, and Townsend.
To me for the Bills, to get to the Chiefs level, they need to acquire more high end talent. It is simply amazing to me that Josh Allen has almost single handedly willed this Bills franchise to wins against the Chiefs in the playoffs. The Bills have talented players besides Allen but not to the level that the Chiefs. You can argue for Bills guys sure but at most positions the Chiefs have a guy who is better with the exception of LB and WR.
The Chiefs let the highest of high end talent walk. And won 2 SuperBowls. Yes you’re definitely smart though give us another 1200 words.-
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23 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said:
I think that's what makes Bills fans "special" at the professional sports level...they have a fanbase more representative of a College town fanbase.
i agree. again, i think it is a matter of degree and semantics. Personally I disagree with the homer argument that we have “special” and “unique” fans based, at least a little bit, because of clout chasers that coined a cool nickname online and brain dead idiots throwing themselves through tables.nothing is “special” about that.
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15 minutes ago, Einstein said:
The real Super Bowl MVP was Chris Jones. Not Mahomes.
He is also an unrestricted free agent, and the Chiefs refused to give him a long term deal next season.
It would take a lot of moving money around, but do you make a play for the game changing stud?
lol no. Been skipping some Mensa meetings?-
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11 minutes ago, Beast said:
Laugh all you ***** want.
The Bills and Bills Mafia will be celebrating our ever living asses off next February.
Just wait and see.
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12 minutes ago, Augie said:
I’ll start by mentioning I’ve lived in several NFL cities. When our sons turned 16 I took them to Buffalo for a Bills game as a rite of passage. I’m sure this happens with all teams, some more than others. The special part was the welcome we received. Once I started talking with people explaining why we were there Saturday after arriving, they were BEGGING us to come to their tailgate the next day. That is not the mood in most cities.
Having said that, it’s a pyramid like most things. Steeler fans deserved credit for representing well, as do Chiefs fans for their tailgating, etc. It’s all good entertainment.
Unique is….unique. Technically they are all unique, but I like ours better! 😋
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15 minutes ago, Neo said:
Well, it became your point after I posted.
Your original point that it’s not special isn’t’ diminished by others that, too, are special. It’s the usage of “silly and juvenile” in your original post that inspired mine.
If I understand where you are now, you’ve gone to not unique among the most ravenous fans in the world from nothing special, silly and juvenile. If the Bills could move goal posts like you did, we’d be playing tonight.
well it depends on the interpretation of “special” then. I took the OP as meaning it to be one of a kind or particularly unique. If you’re taking it as exceedingly loyal or whatever, then we agree. -
27 minutes ago, Neo said:
I think it’s a heck of a lot more than silly and juvenile. Somewhere between “so do a number of other franchises” and “nothing special” lies a wonderful camaraderie unique to Buffalo and recognized nationwide that isn’t “completely silly and juvenile.”
There is a myopia, it seems to me, in Buffalo that doesn’t allow its citizens to see some unique opportunities for pure joy associated with living in the 716 and following the Bills.
Everything is particularly special. I can say that and recognize other fans have their charms, too.
I can tell you fans in Florida, the Carolinas, Louisiana, Alabama, Texas and California certainly think The Mafia is special. SEC fans, especially, recognize a kinship. I have colleagues in NFL cities from Miami, Jacksonville, Houston, New Orleans and Dallas. We touch all the SEC and most of the ACC. THOSE are fan bases. Our group texts are Geaux Tigers, Go Gators, Roll Tide, War Eagle, Hottie Tottie, and Go Bills.
Lastly, I was in Miami January 7. Try telling that crowd the Mafia’s not particularly special.
I’m glad you brought up comparisons to die hard SEC fanbases. They and other college program fanbases are the type of ravenous fans akin to the Bills’. And that was basically my point. Considering Bills’ fans as particularly “special” is the actual myopic view. They’re very very loyal and passionate. That’s great! It’s also not that unique or special. Thinking so is just tribalist bias. -
2 minutes ago, Thrivefourfive said:
My solution is Ben Johnson. What’s yours?
okay. Based on what? Certainly not past experience, he has none as a head coach.
I have no proposed solution because I don’t agree with these wailings from you and the various others here who post these threads almost daily.
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3 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:
This is an honest question. The Bills' fanbase is different. Players often say we have the best fans in the league and I think they sincerely believe it. Though players on other teams sometimes say the same thing.
Of course, there's no way to measure fandom. You can't use attendance because it's easier to fill up a stadium in city with a metro population of 10 million versus one with 1 million. And a team that wins is usually going to sell more tickets than a team that loses (To our credit, Bills fans show up despite an all-time losing record). And you can't use season tickets because it's easier to sell them in a city full of millionaires versus a city where people struggle to get by. So how do you create a metric for fandom that includes not only attendance, but gear worn, cheering volume, fan loyalty, snowmen built, tables smashed, tears shed, and everything else that goes into it?
You can't. Still, as someone who's spent time in most NFL cities, I remain convinced we have the best fans in the NFL. But why?
I've been driving around the San Francisco Bay Area this Super Bowl week and I've seen 49er gear being worn and flags being flown. But it seems I see less of that stuff than I'd see in Buffalo on a typical game-day weekend. And then I thought about demographics. Barely half of San Franciscans speak English at home. A third of San Franciscans were born in another country. Two-thirds were born out-of-state. San Jose/Santa Clara (the new home of the 49ers) is even more diverse. Some of these folks might be casual bandwagon 49er fans but they didn't grow up rooting for the 9ers and they don't bleed team colors like you and I do.
Many growing NFL cities are very cosmopolitan with transient populations that don't build up intense team loyalties. I think that's part of the explanation why Bills fans are different. But I don't think that's the whole story. What would you add?
Nothing is particularly special. Pro teams have varying levels of fan loyalty. A lot of things go into that - demographics, age and history of the franchise, brand recognition, local entertainment options. Buffalo has a very strong fanbase. But so do a number of other franchises. There’s nothing “special” about it and mythologizing it is a completely silly and juvenile thing to do.
Salary cap question, Leonard Floyd’s dead cap
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Fair, but how many of those “many” FAs would you truthfully want back?