Mikie2times
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Mortal Kombat and NBA Jam. Nothing is really close to them.
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1 hour ago, Chaos said:
What do people think the regimes goal is for 2024? Bills are rebuilding. They are going to play as many young players as starters and first off the bench as possible in order to determine who if any can contribute in 2025.
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9 hours ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:
Probably a tie-in to the fox news crowd? I dunno. Terry's old annoying and i can't even understand him half the time, and Jimmy is just old and out of it (he's 80).
We need more younger guys that like to yell and be controversial
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9 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:
You really think Josh Allen views McDermott like his dad?
The relationship is a lot closer to that than somebody he's going to go behind to get out
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13 hours ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:
You have a QB that's a Maserati. He's built for bombs away. But instead of building your offense for that, you build it for plodding, 10 yards at a time max, 10 minute drive offense. So I ask, what is the point?
What's the point of having a guy who's designed by nature to bomb the football deep and whose weakness is dink and dunk stuck in an offensive scheme that is built to do just that?
Why not offload him for someone who's better suited for that kind of thing if you refuse to play to his strengths? That's what I can't wrap my head around. It makes no sense.
Maserati's have a higher risk of a fatal injury. They want a car that can get to a very high top speed if required but is usually on cruise.
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40 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:
I think we attribute things to Josh Allen that we want him to be..........but should probably know better than to presume. We've already had to back off the idea that he was going to work tirelessly like Tom Brady to be the best..........or that he wouldn't let his personal life affect his play on the field in a playoff game etc..
I don't think Josh is a highly assertive cut throat communicator. He is more of a roll with the punches type. I think he is likely somebody who will keep to himself unless the situation becomes intolerable. It's actually hilarious to me that people would think Allen would throw McD under the bus or ask Terry to move on. That's just not who he is and it has nothing to do with me thinking he is some sort of noble person. Maybe he is but he's mostly non confrontational off the field. It would be like him asking to fire his dad. That is the last person Allen is stepping up and creating conflict with.
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1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
What’s funny is the expectations we place on McDermott and Beane are because of what they’ve built.
Some fans don’t realize that. It’s Super Bowl or bust because of McDermott and Beane. They didn’t get here when things were great and just continued it.
They definitely deserve a reload season.
You think any of us can ask for for money or benefits based on previous accomplishments?
3 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:Their employment with the Bills is totally Josh Allen's call at this point.
Even that's an issue. It's not like Josh is the type to throw his HC under the bus.
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5 hours ago, H2o said:
We have all seen how things unfolded the last few years. A dismantling in the AFC Championship game by KC, 13 Seconds, the flop against Cincy, and then the recreation of Wide Right. McDermott has had friction with multiple coaches because he can't stop meddling. We've had 3 OC's the last 3 years. Frazier was sent packing, McDermott officially took over the defense, and now Babich is going to be "running" things. We've had some questionable draft choices when there seemed to be better options at the time, usually involving selecting defensive players. Now, because of the way they tried to build this squad, and the unnecessary drama, we are in what Beane calls a "transition" phase.
People love to talk about 2017, how we handed KC Mahomes. Beane wasn't here for that though. It was strictly a McDermott draft based off of the work Whaley and his scouts had done. That draft brought us White, Dawkins, and Milano. If not for the injuries that have derailed White's career, we could talk about the entire situation in a different manner. You can't deny that, right now, Mahomes is on his way to staking a claim at GOAT status. It is what it is. Now fast forward to 2024. Knowing what Allen needed, what this team needed, they traded with KC. With the situation that has unfolded with Rashee Rice, you have to believe KC was looking at WR. They take the WR with the fastest recorded 40 of all time. Me, personally, Worthy doesn't scare me. Yes, he's fast. But he has had some drops and the guy is lighter than my 16 year old at 165lbs. Let him get out there to get squared up by some of these LB's and S's who outweigh him by 30lbs-70lbs. I just don't think he's built to last in this league. I don't see him as Tyreek Hill 2.0 at all. Tyreek is 25lbs heavier than him and is a 4.2 guy in pads, as well as on the track. Still, if I am wrong, the Bills FO just handed KC a guy who will give us fits for years to come. It will be another black eye on this organization from something McDermott, and this time Beane, had hands in.
The "run it back" mentality has bit them this time. Because we were so close in the 13 seconds game, they developed this "run it back" type of mentality. Sure, we changed a player here or there, but many of the pieces have been the same squad since then. The weight is always, squarely, on Josh's shoulders. People try to use KC as a comparison and say look at what they were able to achieve without big name WR's, or whatever else. Well, KC has Mahomes, Andy Reid scheming the offense for Mahomes (probably THE largest difference), one of the greatest TE's ever to play the game, has typically had a top tier OL, a REALLY good defense littered with talent across the board, and a DC in Spagnuolo who has been a part of 4 SB winning defenses. Gabe never developed, Edmunds never developed, Von's knee, Poyer got old, Hyde's neck injury, White constantly on IR, constantly cycling out JAG's to fill holes, constantly rolling with meh WR's (outside of Diggs, who became more trouble than he was worth), keeping together a middling OL because Josh makes them look better than they actually are, defensive instability, and have changed the guy calling the offense out 3 times in 3 years. Now, on top of that, we find ourselves in Cap purgatory and still no closer to the goal we wish to achieve.
Going into the 2024 draft, a blind man could see Josh needed weapons on the outside. We had big shoes to fill in Diggs and we needed an upgrade on what Gabe Davis was in this offense. Shakir has shown promise, but he's primarily been used in the Slot. We signed Curtis Samuel, who has primarily been a Slot guy as well. After that we were left with a bunch of JAG's we already had. In the best WR class in at least 10 years, we come away with one WR. I'm not counting the camp fodder UDFA's. We drafted ONE guy. Opinions vary on that one guy. He is truly a boundary WR though. Still, you would have thought this team would have doubled up on boundary guys for the sake of giving their generational talent QB more to work with. Instead they throw all their eggs in one basket by going Safety, DT, and RB with their next 3 selections. Kirby mentioned it in another thread, and I have to concur, that this team looks to have a bottom 5 WR group right now. Until proven otherwise on the field, it is what it is. I think it is a failure, as well as a disservice to JA17, to only have come away with one WR out of this class. This doesn't mean I hate our draft, or grade it an F. I just think it's par for the course we've already seen from this regime, a course that has always seen us come up short.
In the end, I think this year will be the make or break for both Beane and McDermott. To continue to do things the same way and expect different results is madness. If the players they drafted become a foundational youth movement, if you can see the results on the field as to what they were drafted for, if Samuel, Shakir, and Coleman make for a dangerous group, if we can transition on the fly like KC did a couple years ago, and if we didn't just make the KC offense unstoppable again, then they'll be around for a while. But there are A LOT of "if's" in that statement. At some point you have to pull the plug if it's not getting you any closer to what should be the goal of every franchise in professional sports, a championship. We shall see.
What Terry thinks and what we think are very different things. Terry thinks he has two competent men running his organization with the success to prove it. Many of us think those same men might be contributing to the reasons why we can't take the next step. Both can be right but only Terry's opinion matters and I see no evidence at all that eithers seat is even warm. Depressing as it is, we can miss the playoffs this year and both will be back in 2025.
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5 hours ago, Einstein said:
I would like to see some non-anecdotal data for this assertion.
A few years back an analysis was run on the Bills draft record during their drought. Nearly 20 years of data. In that span, it was shown via analysis that if the Bills front office had simply followed a publicly available player ranking (think: Kiper, McShay, etc), they would have drafted more impact players than they actually did.
A similar one was down for Oakland I believe.
Thats right - the professional NFL front offices of multiple teams, with access to dozens of scouts, in-person interviews, and player data galore, was beaten out by a generic player ranking list.Too many people buy into the “expert” fallacy. That simply because someone does something for a living, that they are better at that job than someone who doesn’t do it for a living. It’s not always accurate.
I think the data teams are accumulating based on movement such as playing speed along with data they're gathering with the use of video analysis tools will eventually outclass the opinions of draft experts by a significant enough margin that we won't have these conversations. That is just the tip of the iceberg as well. I'm sure we will see some pretty wicked advances in tech in the next few years. Now will this data eventually become available to the public? Probably. But I'm sure even this year they had some data points that the public did not have access to.
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1 minute ago, UmbrellaMan said:
Keon Coleman is a total bust as a top WR. As a big FSU fan, I’ve watched almost every snap this guy played. I just can’t believe the Bills organization gave up Pearsall or Legette to settle for Keon. I’m blown away the scouting department could be so off. Just terrible asset management.
Ok......damn it. I'll send the jersey back.
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When we drafted Josh we didn't know exactly what we would get. What players would be the best for him from a system standpoint. We brought in the Smurfs in droves which would usually be a nod to YAC being a focus. I think early on we wanted YAC to be a focus. Over time we have seen Buffalo consistently as one of the worst YAC teams in the NFL. We are often off schedule. We are about as far from a rhythm offense is you could get. Allens ability to buy a second or two, deliver passes in absurd windows, and literally throw additional distances to make up for YAC is what we have seen. We can fight this all we want in hopes he becomes more of a systematic passer but this is just who Allen is.
I look at the Coleman pick as one of the first pieces we added knowing exactly what Josh needs. Not what a system needs. He has never had a target that is always open even if he is covered. That he can throw a 50/50 ball to with any consistency and really maximize in unstructured situations. Coleman will be that guy in spades. I also see a guy who is very good in the middle of the field. Which is an area our offense all but avoided until the Pittsburgh playoff game last year. Coleman doesn't need to run past people to be a great fit here and who he can be paired with Josh is likely far more than who he could be paired within more structured systems. We will get a ton of this his rookie year which will buy him more time to develop into a polished WR who likely will line up in multiple spots over the long run.
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23 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:
Thanks. Looks like for Josh and the league in general it’s less than once a game.
Ya, I think it's more of the threat of it that makes it impactful
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25 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:
Poor takes? I’m the voice of experience and wisdom!
Things people don't say who have experience and wisdom 😂
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Gotta get me some of that Franky Franklin
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I think people are much more pissed off over our philosophy than specific players. Even if they hated Keon Coleman, most people will acknowledge it's a crap shoot and that he could end up being a very good player for us. I think where people do have a legitimate beef is just in the lack of resources used at WR as a whole. They see a GM who has taken one WR in the first two rounds during his tenure. Who post Diggs being traded had a decent hole created. One given our resources was likely not going to be filled in FA or even in FA and the draft. But I think people are pretty frustrated that we seemed to do the bare minimum to remedy that for even next year. They sort of think how can we not have at least developmental needs with a late pick? It's pure neglect to them.
I feel we are likely better off than people think as I expect Kincaid to become a pro bowl TE this year. I also expect us to live in two TE and primarily be a running team. That is what we did the last 7 games last year when we went 7-1. We barely threw to WR's in that stretch. I think the perception was we would have wanted to do so more. I'm not sure that's the case. I certainly understand why people are pissed off. As a whole, looking at the attention to this position. It has been rather poor. As one poster mentioned it seems like we just follow KC with everything we do. Since they won SB's without the elite WR it seems like we have said look! We don't require this! The funny thing being, KC seems to be really trying to increase production in that position. So even if they found success they seem to have recognized how limiting the lack of talent ahs been for them.
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44 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:
If by "work together" it means play golf and smash wings then I buy it. That's all QB1 does all off season.
/s
I bet he plays Madden as well
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7 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:
I just picked them because I always thought that was a cool name for a baseball team.
Ya, I always liked the name, they're actually a pretty good team to check out in that neck of the woods.
Just now, boyst said:Don't you dare
I can't stand Toledo. But it's a situation where you can't say that unless you lived there (city of Sylvania for me). It was a unique place to grow up in the 90s with the Storm, 4th of July fireworks (and the monster truck that'd go in the lake), cosi, cedar point nearby.
I'm so glad I left. I hated Sylvania. Abercrombie and Fitchville of douchebaggyness.
Sylvania, Perrysburg, Toledo.....over a decade, love the cost of living. That's about it.
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8 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:
Toledo Mudhens.
As a former Toledo resident I'm offended. I also offending myself for being a Toledo resident.
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3 hours ago, TH3 said:
This is concerning and troubling
To say this could be the end as we know it would be to undersell the situation
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11 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:
difference between us is that I can disagree w your assessment that they did enough at wr without calling it irrational
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14 minutes ago, mrags said:
Why would you assume that? After Davis was a 4th rounder. After Shakir was a 5th rounder.
so if Shakir helps make this WR group a decent to good group, why couldn’t a flier on a 4th or 5th round guy like McMillain, or Rice, or Baker have done the same? And if you want to argue that they wouldn’t be much help this year anyway, my reply would be we need to plan for the future anyway. It took both Davis and Shakir to get a year or 2 under their belts to really help with production.
Shakir was a hit. Davis was a hit. We actually aren’t that bad at late WR picks. Maybe we didn’t value the guys in your board.My argument is it’s pretty funny watching people say the difference in this being a good draft or not is a 4th round WR.
This is getting more clear to me. We had to trade for Aiyuk, take one of the big 3, or take two in the first two rounds. That was basically the standard I’m seeing. It’s just being packaged differently by posters because they know such an ask is getting closer to fantasy world than reality.
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3 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:
Deepest wr draft maybe all time is what I kept hearing
7 drafted in the first round in fact...Chiefs had to trade up to get their guy even
We get one single second round wr
and now we're just going to pretend they weren't really that good...to me, that is the questionable perspective
4 picks in the 20’s. Three consecutive picks to end the first round and start round two.
Do you really think the level of talent in those players was going to be the difference maker for us at WR? What if we took Worthy? Legette with the last pick in Round 1 would that have past the test for you? Just make the full leap to completely irrational please.
It wasn’t one of the best WR drafts of all time. It was top heavy. Then the rest of the talent was significantly lower in rank than then the big three.
Who cares who KC picked, have you seen the track record they have drafting WR? Rice is the best guy they have taken since Mahomes was drafted.
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1 minute ago, GoBills808 said:
Yeah exactly
We lost WRs 1&2 from an already pretty shabby unit and replaced them by trading back for one single second rounder
Not going to pretend to be impressed by that
Buffalo and the rest of the NFL for that matter had 4-10 at end of round one / start of round 2. The only 1st rounders to pick were the big 3. Everybody after that was an equal crapshoot. Which is why we traded back.
The idea that a 4th round type would have elevated this class to acceptable makes me really question the perspectives here.
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I didn't think it was the sequel to Brokeback Mountain. So you envision Allen holding Pegula hostage to get rid of HC otherwise he won't sign again?