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Mikie2times
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4 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said:
Playing Klein was a decision. A terrible one. He may have known the defense but he was spent. Every single team deals with injuries. It's a lame excuse.
I have been looking for a long time for the stat that tracks every teams relative health historically so we can truly discuss how unfortunate we are. I would guess in the scheme of an entire year, we are actually doing pretty well. While we have had some poorly timed things occur in the postseason, does anybody here really think those past defense, even when healthy, would shut down a legit playoff team? (not the wild card carousel of bums and back ups we have had, but an actual contender). The answer is hell no and if you think that’s a yes you should be required to provide some form of logic to support it.
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1 hour ago, Maynard said:
That’s a good looking admin
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51 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:
Overall rushing volume is extremely misleading. Rushing dvoa or how your run defense plays in high leverage moments is more relevant. A good example is vs KC right before the half this year. That was a key run stop in a high leverage moment.
At the end of the day if you're Scoring very fast with a QB passing the football like Allen, you're creating more possessions for yourself.
If the other team is running the football, it may take a very long time in theory for them to score. Creating less possessions for our opponents.
We lost the rushing battle
We lost the turnover battle
We lost the time of possession battle
Yet we won by 12....
If we get just one more 3rd down stop & Hardman doesn't fumble, we probably win by 20+....
Volume rushing stats, turnovers and time of possession are boomer talking points that are largely for teams without a real qb & counterintuitive
Obviously our run defense needs to improve, obviously you don't want to turn the ball over tho...
But this is why everyone was so mad after the dolphins game with 12-15 plays, the constant check downs and tunnel screens. It's counterintuitive but you're playing into your opponent's hands. And you make every single mistake or turnover 10x worse playing that way. I remember Kelly vs the Bengals in 91 had 3 1st half ints. He still threw 5 tds and they won like 35-10 or something
You play football with a level of aggression and urgency to win, and win quickly/ decisively.
You don't play football with the mindset of worrying about your defense or worrying about turnovers. Marv levy had to force himself to get comfortable with this mindset. So does McDermott.
Not saying they should never run the football or never have games where they use ball control offense. Both are important...I'm saying the game vs Tampa Bay should be their foundational identity
We rank 30th in EPA per rush. We rank last in average yards per carry.
Teams league wide are attacking two high looks with renewed energy in the run game and we didn’t prepare for it. Sometimes we score more than the other team. That doesn’t make it better that we are vulnerable here.
This reminds of the old arguments about Allen’s interceptions not mattering. It can rarely be that we just mismanage or stink at something and that’s bad. Usually we see a contingent of people almost try and warp it into a strategic decision to just suck and how it makes sense to just concede. That somehow bad is good or bad is fine.
Meanwhile our entire offensive identity is built around what you’re saying should not matter. A boomer inefficient ground oriented offense. It’s ok for us offensively, that’s what we want, but we don’t care on defense and it doesn’t matter. Makes sense.
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On 11/10/2025 at 2:27 PM, ScotSHO said:
He 1000% plays if he can. Imagine telling a healthy professional athlete that you can't play because of organizational dysfunction.
From what I have read he is pushing hard to return regardless of record. Taylor also has incentive with his job in jeopardy.
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1 hour ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:
She’s gotta know Ron Jeremy though, right?
I could have went there, but I have survived so many John Holmes jokes from my old man that my mind went to him first.
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In honor of this thread, I gathered all my Macy's jackets and burned them. Now I'm cold.
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26 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:
How old is your girlfriend?
Not old enough to know who John Holmes is....haha
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My girlfriend told me I remind her of John Holmes.
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3 hours ago, thenorthremembers said:
Oline, specifically tackle is not a low value position. Neither is CB1. Yes, RB may be "low value" but he didnt just draft a good RB, he drafted one of the 5 best in the league. The Bills roster outside of WR has been solid for awhile now. Its aging out at some positions, severly injured at others. They need a bit of a reset. Which I think you'll see in the offseason.
On the point about not playing football, which he did in high school, its just a nonsense argument. Hes been in football, learning from scouts and general managers for close to 30 years. Not sure what sitting the bench in D3 college football would have taught him about the game that he doesnt already know.
OL, namely Guard is considered "low value", as is TE. Not an opinion, just look at how infrequently teams use first round picks on these players. CB1 is not, it's a very high value position based on the draft. Hopefully he hits on Max because he took a massive whiff on Elam.
He has no history in football player evaluation until Dave Gettleman tried taking him under his wing in 2013. He was a Cap guy and administrator for the bulk of his career. It matters that he has a role where only 32 jobs of his exist in the world and what is probably the biggest focus of that role is something he had zero experience in until 2013. It shows up in the roster everywhere with our middling talent.
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29 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
Yeah, it really goes without saying that if you land on two future Hall of Famers in Round 2 and Round 3 within 2 or 3 years of each other - you're going to be in really good shape...
But that takes *incredible* luck. 9 times out of 10, in Round 2 or Round 3 you're way more likely than not getting something with a ceiling of a low to mid level starter, a role player, and the floor of a flat out bust. Especially if you're picking premium positions like WR, CB, DE, or OT.
His bigger hits have been at low value positions, like RB, TE, or OL or they have been starter level and not elite talent. Hes done well in value in later rounds, but just very few difference makers.
I mean, what Ed Oliver? And that was 9th pick in the draft. Next best 1at rounder is Groot. Maybe he finally gets an early round hit at a difference making position in Max.
3 hours ago, notpolian said:The thing I keep coming back to is Beane was the money guy at Carolina. He doesn't have the football background. That helps to explain the uneven early round drafting and his insecurity. His philosophy of paying home grown guys is ok - he just keeps handling out pretty big contracts to decent but not excellent players. Eventually that puts you in a bad place, and here we are.
His roots are in administration and cap management. He’s certainly not a scout and didn’t play the game (not even sure if he ever played). Not past high school though for sure.
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3 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:
Right. You guaranteed it!
Thank goodness you hold a unknown internet poster to higher standards than people you vote for. Imagine if you kept receipts of your boy? As I said, it would reflect really poorly on you. So you don't. I can't relate, my identity has never been linked to a political party or a person.
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5 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:
I have a hard time forgetting bullsh*t. It’s a curse.
within days…
Not sure the story is over at this point captain
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14 hours ago, JDHillFan said:
Don’t be going back on your word now. Never a good look.
The “it might only take days” part was especially fun. The “how confident are you?” part was also a nice touch.
haha....jesus man, what do you have going on in your life? Probably the same things Bill has going on. A Bills message board to talk politics and a Bills message board to talk politics.
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I'm confused. Most fans here wanted to look at Vrabel, Harbaugh, and Sean Payton. Then later Ben Johnson. Soon to come Klint Kubiak.
We were told we would be risking everything to consider such a thing. It seems more likely we have wasted several years out of fear of failure.
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7 hours ago, The Jokeman said:
and fans continue to bash the WR situation but we still have had an above average offense despite that. I get why Beane got frustrated with the call in radio hosts that do nothing more than criticize the WR room yet don't look at the big picture. Last season we broke records when it came to points per game both from a team standpoint and NFL standpoint yet all people wanted to do is lament that our WR sucked because we didn't have some alpha dog that put up ungodly stats. He also pointed out that many of the radio guys bashed Beane for drafting Allen instead of Rosen which in retrospect was the right call. The one thing I will say is in all the years he's been here the team has never bottomed out or looked like it couldn't win a game or two despite all the injuries we've had. Is it due to strong roster building aka not having to rely on super stars to pace you? Look no further than to the Jets who's passing offense is in shambles in part because Garret Wilson is hurt and they have nobody behind him that can step up and replace him. Yes, our offense been questionable since the Palmer injury but the plays have been available but for whatever reason Josh not been able to make them.
Perspective is sustained performance in the postseason, in high leverage situations, and being multiple enough on offense to win different ways. Who cares if we have an elite offense under situations when we can play ahead or control the ball or it is elite in the aggregate but fails when faced with less than ideal circumstances. All of these things will inevitably occur in the postseason. It goes back to building teams to win regular season games offensively and not postseason games.
The Jets don't even have a starting caliber NFL QB. I'm not sure where the Jets fit in any conversation offensively, but they don't fit where you're trying to put them.
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54 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:
I honestly don’t believe there is a line that Trump could cross that would cost him the support of many of the posters on this board.
Fraudster? Conman? Child rapist? Murderer of hundreds of thousands of children?
Nah, they’ll still support him. Hell, if he shot their kids, they’d probably assume their kids deserved it.
Once a political figure becomes tied to someone’s personal identity, any criticism of him gets interpreted as criticism of them. That’s why even objectively awful behavior gets reframed as “lies from the liberal media.” It protects supporters from confronting the possibility that they backed someone who is, on a basic human level, a terrible person. So to echo your statements nothing would change how they view him.
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1 minute ago, Avisan said:
There isn't a drop in receiving talent surrounding Allen relative to last year. If anything, it was better when factoring in a relatively healthy Kincaid up until now.
I don't think it was random that the offense turned around with Cooper. Even if his production wasn't there. Same with Diggs the year prior as far as just performing at ahigh level. Those are guys that needed to be accounted for and when called on, as rare as it was, made some pretty big plays downfield. Not to mention Mack Hollins performing at a higher level for us AND New England this year for every receiver outside Shakir. It's also not like Kincaid has been healthy all year. I would take last years WR group hands down.
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For what is worth, this is Allen EPA+CPOE ranking by year. CPOE is completion % above expected. I think it's showing what you would expect it to show. Allen is historically a top 3 performer, arguably #1 in 2024 and 2020, but always top 3. This year he's performing more like a 5-10 guy which is pretty significant as far as the difference in those tiers. Obviously his statistics are a product of himself and his environment so that's not to say his value is 5-10. I imagine other QB's would be signifgantly lower ranking with the assets he has, but non the less the stats are the stats. We are getting 5-10 type output.
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38 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:
I thought Cali sober was mushrooms?
That would be nice.... and interesting......and colorful
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It is in the games DNA to light somebody up. The more likely players are to either A) increase speed or B) reduce awareness of being hit, the higher the risks. Really not surprised here.
8 minutes ago, T.E. said:It's bizarre, and it's not because of player safety either. If they cared about that, we wouldn't have 17-game schedules, Thursday Night Football, or regular season games in places like Brazil and Germany.
Combine the goofy kickoff with allowing the placekickers to use different balls so that they can make 70-yard FGs, and you're looking at (what I believe is) a perversion of the game.
Certainly more about the perception of player safety than actual player safety. I don't think the NFL gives a F, but they care about people thinking they do.
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Just now, GoBills808 said:
meh
sulking is your word. im not offended by the way he looks on the sidelines
Not offended, just not blind. You see the same look from kids missing a shot in basketball. What do you say? It's ok to put your head down. It's ok to isolate and focus on your mistakes. It's not even considered the way to approach failure as a kid. Let alone the MVP of football. You need to let things go. This topic is not why we struggle. It's part of what accelerates things when it gets really bad. Which it rarely does. We don't agree here, so we can move on. It's not the highlight of why we aren't playing well.
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1 minute ago, GoBills808 said:
i mean hes literally the only guy id want out there when the chips are down lol
i dont particularly care about his demeanor. i think it's just a narrative. i care about results and he stacks them up
You want sulking Allen like the Bengals game, Texans game, Dolphins game? I draw a line at some point with this stuff. He's this entire team, but to say his demeanor is indictive of a leader in some of these moments is garbage. He knows it as well.
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Just now, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:
I’m not discounting the possibility of Josh asking for a trade to a west coast team, to be closer to his bride and to end his career where he grew up … imagine Sean McVeigh getting Josh to replace stafford when he retires in a couple years
He's not going to ask for a trade. He's not going to ask for McD to be fired. You can see right thru him with how transparent he is. Winning HERE is what matters to him. I understand that he is a mega star. But that fact is still why he is so special IMO. He's a mega star in a normal person and will never be anything else.
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Just now, GoBills808 said:
yes
unfortunately the way the team is run doesnt promote this kind of self actualization
it's easy to say 'if i was allen i wouldn't gaf about anything, id just go out and play my game' but realistically he's dealing w a HC that's constantly in the media saying he needs to change the way he plays, a revolving door of untested OCs the current of which is determined to render your abilities as ineffective as possible, and the kind of supporting cast that a respectable franchise wouldn't dare saddle the best QB in the league with...tough to rise above all that
I mean, I'm not dismissing his situation at all and I called out the team needing to better support him, which is incredibly obvious. But I can't think of any QB's that are former MVP's who look like Allen does when the chips are down. He can still work on the part he has control over because he doesn't control the rest of it.
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Josh Allen "Most Betrayed" QB in the NFL
in The Stadium Wall
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2021 was he best defense this regime fielded. We allowed over 40 points at home to the Colts, over 250 yards rushing. We allowed 40+ to Chiefs in 13 seconds. This was never going to be some dominant playoff unit. No evidence to suggest that besides beating up on inexperienced QB’s.