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Mikie2times
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For as smart as Trump can be at telling a story and misdirection he just flat out encourages this type of push back with how he decides to phrase things. He is the one that linked the success of this mission to total destruction, completely destroying, bla bla. When you constantly use absolute language you leave open a big area that can get challenged. A more measured response and no story. It’s a story because he assured 100% destruction. What his base will eventually land on is “you know what he meant”.
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1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:
The last coach who took the Cleveland browns to the playoffs before Baker Mayfield?
The coach who stopped the greatest offense in NFL history versus the bills no huddle offense...
probably the greatest defensive coordinator of all time with head coaching statistics that will make a grown man cry
He was 41-55 as a HC before Brady arrived. Andy Reid was 11-13 in the playoffs before Mahomes arrived, McD has a losing record in games Josh Allen doesn't start in. If a coach isn't capable of approaching a similar status as they did with said HOF QB, is it not a reasonable conclusion to say the QB is likely driving more of the outcome than the HC?
Plenty of examples exist of HOF QB's with multiple HC's. How many HOF coaches without HOF QB's? It is possible to look at performance separately and draw some conclusions. All of which really don't support what you're saying.
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2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:
Bill belichick gets credit for developing tom Brady
To those that choose to do so. What was Bill without Tom again?
Just now, Buffalo716 said:Awesome well it greet a disagree Sean McDermott to me is a tremendous coach
If you had to say McDermott or Josh Allen I'm obviously taking Josh Allen cuz he's our general
But I'm not throwing Sean McDermott under the loss
Good with that, its not a provable debate really. One of the all time questions of the sport.
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Just now, Buffalo716 said:
I never said Josh Allen would not have been pretty good.. I said Josh Allen would not be the Josh Allen we know
There's been plenty of physically gifted quarterbacks who don't pan out.. in fact Jay Cutler was a 6'3 230 lb monster with a cannon who was trucking linebackers in the SEC
I think Josh is more likely that in Chicago.. good not transcendent
A transcendent player always needs somebody to tango with.. there's never been a surefire Hall of Fame greatest ever quarterback who didn't have a tremendous coach lol they kind of go hand in hand
Because the QB gives them stability, not the other way around. Very few coaches raise the needle in a significant way. More can lower the needle in a signifigant way. I don't think McD lowers it by any stretch, but I also don't think he's one of the few that raise it. Andy Reid, Sean McVay are two people. Maybe a couple more, but it's a very short list.
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1 minute ago, QCity said:
The best thing McD did for Allen was to hire DaBoll. That's where you can start and stop the accolades.
Which you can certainly credit McD for. But the narrative that McD groomed Allen just never held up for me. In the early years they barely had a relationship. It was all Dabs. Allen worked a ton with Palmer. He was driven to be great. McD focused on his defense.
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Just now, Buffalo716 said:
No I don't think if Josh Allen gets drafted to the Chicago bears that he's the same Josh Allen
It always takes two to tango in the NFL
Tom Brady is not Tom Brady if he doesn't go to Bill belichick at 22 years old
You're crazy if you think we draft Tom Brady and he becomes the greatest ever lol
No Bill belichick gets credit for helping
The split of who contributed more in that arrangement is overwhelming toward Brady, and yes, Josh would have been just fine in Chicago. Guarantee it. As would have Tom somewhere else. They both didn't need somebody else to tell them to put in the work. This isn't a guy playing in a Bill Walsh mastermind system. Both are primarily defensive coaches who stressed not screwing up. With Josh, so much to the extent that it nearly screwed HIM up.
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1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:
Josh Allen was nobody... Sean McDermott helped Josh Allen become a superstar
Why there's coaches... If you didn't need them players would just play and coach themselves
Sean helped develop Josh Allen
You're crazy if you think Josh Allen still doesn't become a star without McDermott, but flip that around. I don't think McDermott is able to be so process like without Josh. The entire dynamic changes. Silly argument to take here, you're better off crediting him for picking Josh than developing him. By most accounts he's virtually hands off the offense and has zero experience with QB play.
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1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:
Semantics
Nobody ever said through 17 years we didn't have a roster that wasn't good enough to be the last seed in the playoff
The difference is Sean McDermott got it done.. difference is Sean McDermott took a kid who half the NFL Network said shouldn't be drafted in the top three rounds
Said we were dumb for taking him
And Sean McDermott and his steady hand helped turn around a franchise
The franchise was in shambles before he got here.. the front office the kitchen at one Bills drive.. Sean McDermott brought respect to every single person at one Bills drive whether you're a coach or making food ... Josh Allen shout it out the mailman at his MVP address! Sean McDermott and his attitude has changed the culture
And his calming influenced helped develop Josh Allen.. and countless other players on our roster
No the slander on Sean McDermott is disgusting
Its not really "Disgusting". This has been debated to nauseous levels. A path exists to him being even more Marty than Marty. Marty never had Josh Allen. You can choose to acknowledge that or not. The reasons why have been debated a million times. Not getting into it again at this point.
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1 minute ago, 14774 said:
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-ranking-top-returning-head-coaches-2025
Agree or disagree? He has his faults, but I think he fits in the Top 10 somewhere.
Some valid ones ahead of him, but I can't get on board with Kevin Stefanski. Further, you can certainly make arguments against several others. Also depends on how its being measured. X's and O's and innovation, he would not be in my top 10. Intangibles, he certainly would be. More likely top 5 if not top 3.
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5 minutes ago, letsgoteam said:
If the Iran facilities are intact as claimed, why would Iran advertise it? Are they not just setting themselves up?
It's pretty complicated. Israel doesn't have impunity to act at the moment (from what it would appear). The US has made it pretty clear they don't want this to proceed further. They have a great deal of pride and have been embarrassed over this. If true likely the Nuclear weapon version of nana nana boo boo.
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8 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:
Iran should be posting a video of the facility in tact very shortly.
—CNN “sources”
What are they going to show? Some Persians sipping Mai Tai's 😆
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5 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:
The entire situation is about Trump for you. You have plenty of company in feeling that way.
Looking forward to you being proven right within days.
You're missing the point. THIS ENTIRE SITUATION IS ABOUT TRUMP. That is the problem I have with Trump.
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10 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:
There was “intelligence” that said Trump was into golden showers. If you want to put your faith in the “there was minimal damage caused by fourteen 30,000lb bombs” intelligence, I think you should.
They say the third time is a charm so I will ask you a final time - do you believe the Iranians outsmarted Israeli intelligence and were able to squirrel their nuclear materials to safety?
Sorry captain, the standard set by truth teller is completely obliterated and that golden shower analogy doesn't really hit home (unless it's your home). The White House authenticated it was a real story. To what level remains to be seen.
Do you believe those trucks coming and going from the Nuclear facilities were just bringing concrete?
You might be right on this. We really don't know, but the president is not right. Its been a couple days and his need for parading himself around before knowing anything is unraveling. Any sensible person would have simply said the mission was a success, we believe the nuclear threat is contained, and our intelligence community will be working hard in the coming days to verify those findings. Instead he chose, obliterated, no longer functional, and completely destroyed. It's the difference between qualified and unqualified, presidential and pedestrian. He was so eager to pat his back he couldn't even wait a few days.
8 minutes ago, Taro T said:One thing to remember about any of CNN's reporting, at least for the next 3-1/2 years, is that most of their insiders that held securitiy clearances even after leaving government service had them revoked by 47. So, in a matter like this, they're either getting told by somebody still working in the government that is leaking classified information or they're making it up as they go.
A significant portion of their former sources have dried up.
I would be more inclined to agree with you if the white house didn't already acknowledge it and it being top secret. Making up as they go is not what this is. It could be incorrect? Sure, Trump could do his best to ensure that is the perception? That's a certainty.
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3 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:
Can you point to the “world knowledge” part so that I can follow along?
Do you think the Iranians were shrewd enough to outsmart Israeli intelligence with the alleged move of nuclear materials?
You made an idiotic “guarantee” based on nothing but emotion. One you believe may be proven right “within days”. Laughable.
So the white house itself validated that these findings did in fact occur and it was labeled as top secret. Curious, if I say something or if a source just goes rogue with information that is not true does that get marked as top secret as well?
"This alleged assessment is flat-out wrong and was classified as 'top secret' but was still leaked to CNN by an anonymous, low-level loser in the intelligence community," White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt told CNN in response to the outlet's reporting.
"The leaking of this alleged assessment is a clear attempt to demean President Trump, and discredit the brave fighter pilots who conducted a perfectly executed mission to obliterate Iran's nuclear program," Leavitt added. "Everyone knows what happens when you drop fourteen 30,000 pound bombs perfectly on their targets: total obliteration."
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10 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:
They may have. You think a country repeatedly compromised by Israeli intelligence was able to do that undetected?
I don’t know that it’s been DESTROYED. I do know that the guarantee you made a couple posts above is complete horsesh*t. You are desperate to believe that this has all gone to Trump’s detriment and are willing to declare you may be proven right within days. The fact is that you don’t know sh*t and are really just posting based on your Trump-centric emotions. It’s embarrassing. I really don’t care how it impacts Trump. You do. Bigly.
You're posting on your world knowledge and I'm posting on my Trump-centric emotions? When people disagree with Trump they have TDS and when you guys post whatever non stop thread about liberals you do so rationally without the seeming obsession you have? Trump is not an honest person, I expect dishonest people to do dishonest things, betting on dishonest people doing dishonest things is not hard.
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1 minute ago, JDHillFan said:
Pretty sure the cleanup from multiple 30k lb bombs is going to take a while.
This is laughable. Thank you for offering never to post again if you are wrong.
Make sure you get it all out now.
You think the they didn't remove the uranium with the time they had? That's just one path. Watching the selective paranoia and conspiracy theories of you guys is incredibly fascinating. Trump says, DESTROYED. Then all of you follow, DESTROYED, no chance! Everything else has to be fake news. Meanwhile you will question why somebody scratched themselves so long as an inbred on X posts about it.
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5 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:
That facility is no longer functional and never will be again. 10000 percent.
By the way the reporter from CNN who’s using his “reliable” source is the same one that called the Hunter Biden story bogus.
But hey, maybe that facility is still sharp as a tack, functioning well, and in fact it’s the best version of itself you’ve ever seen……I guess?
Whether or not they moved the uranium out of their country the way Iraq did….. I don’t know.
Maybe? I'm not a big Joe supporter, Hunter Biden is meaningless to me along with CNN. For the president to keep stating that the Nuclear program has been destroyed is a lie. I know it's a lie because it would be impossible to verify such a claim in the time it took him to make it.
4 minutes ago, B-Man said:
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Still no responses in this thread past a flag and X reposts like usual. Between you and Carolina, you have the least engaged content on this forum and do so over and over and over. Has to be a sign of strength in your personal life.
3 minutes ago, TH3 said:Tou can't bomb knowledge - They know how to do it.
Why would they ever use a nuke - it would be suicide
I never said they would use it, I said they would keep pursuing it and have the means to do so. But if this is really true, then what was this over?
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4 minutes ago, B-Man said:
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11 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:
Yep. It was years away last week. Didn’t even have the capability.
Today they were literally days away.
The president saying 5 seconds after it happened:
"have been completely and totally obliterated."
But CNN is the misinformation here?
I guarantee the Iranian ability to generate Nuclear weapons is still present and the following months will prove that. It might only take days. If I'm wrong I will never post in the PPP forum again.
How confident are you?
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34 minutes ago, sherpa said:
The thing that gives me pause is that Trump seems to value a public victory lap over substantive results.
Hopefully, the success of this will lead to some reliable prohibitions against Iran resuming.
There is no evidence of that yet.
In the meantime, it seems there has been a Hamas ambush today that killed a number of Israeli soldiers.
Hasn't hit the media yet, but serves as a reminder of reality.
Trump knows probably more than any politician in the history of this country, what is real doesn't matter, it just matters what people think is real. The average American has no clue how fragile this still is. Most are perfectly fine joining him for those victory laps. Now reports are coming out stating US intelligence believes Iran's nuclear capability is very much intact. So what happens next? We have already stated they can't have a nuclear bomb, we used military force to prevent it. Israel has said they can't have it and if they pursue it again they will intervene again.
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9 minutes ago, sherpa said:
I trust Netanyahu, but I expect Israel could use a ceasefire as a respite. The IAF is just not big enough and the distances too great to continue this pace.
Regarding the Iranian "regime," his kid is the odds on favorite.
But, given that the regime is held up by the IRGC, when IRGC senior leadership roll call occurs, there's going to be a lot less "here" responses.
Look at their actions defending the country during the strike.
Was anybody running that?
'Cause not a thing happened.
We disagree somewhat here, but appreciate the good conversation and not getting crappy with it.
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21 minutes ago, sherpa said:
The "regime" is in place in name only, which is not to say it doesn't have the ability to re-emerge.
Scores of the power folks have been killed. The leader is in a bunker somewhere, an 86 year old cancer surviving lunatic who has lost countless supporters.
This strike was immensely successful on so many levels.
Of course they will try to continue their useless nuclear goals, but they've just lost their three major facilities, at least for some time.
They have an estimated one half trillion dollars of spent cost in the program and in supporting their three major proxies, who have suddenly disappeared.
They have been exposed as a useless military, unable to even respond in most basis terms to an invasion of their airspace and the destruction of their prized hundred billion dollar underground effort.
They can evidently do nothing about it, except perhaps sleeper cells, which nobody know about.
Remember last week when two people here expressed angst that they could close the Strait of Hormuz? One actually stated it cause a major recession. Remember who stated that was unlikely?
That strike was a spotlight on the bullsttuff that is the Iranian "regime," and no matter what people on this forum think, that reality is not lost on Gulf states and others who feared them.
If the Iranian people overthrow the regime I will become more bullish over these actions making a difference. Khomeini is prepping his son to take over. His internal network historically has been enough to hold back the Iranian people. While many are pro west, the old guard has been hard to make any progress with. Seeing Trump say today that he doesn't want a regime change is disappointing. I know why he said and I don't think he believes it, he wants stability, but still, disappointing. Certainly part of the cease fire agreement, it had to be.
Regardless, can we trust Khomeini or Netanyahu? No. Not as far as you could throw them. What happens if the ceasefire doesn't hold? If it doesn't the real threats haven't even started. That was always the risk of handling things this way. It's the 1st quarter at this point. A lot of time to see what this ultimately results in.
9 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said:And what has changed since then? They were getting too close to actually having the ability to wipe Israel off the face of the earth with their nuclear program.
Said only the people doing the bombing. Iraq has WMD's right? No experts have said they were as close as what was presented.
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24 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said:
We already went over the fact that Israel started attacking Iran under BIden. As others have pointed out, "Syria collapses, as the Israelis use that to destroy existing air defenses and create a corridor through there to Iran." That is the reason, not that Trump is weak or dumb.
They didnt hold us hostage, they are their own entity and as history shows, Israel always strikes first in that region. They thought we were so weak and/or dumb that they needed our bombs to hit the facilities, how does that make any sense? And if we were so weak, why delay the attack? If we are so dumb why would they want our help?
That doesnt make any sense.
Wanting peace and less loss of life is not a weak or dumb stance to have. I thought that was something I agreed with the left on.Israel has been fighting, based on your definition of fighting, since 1948. Never in that time have the defied the United States in having a direct military operation in Iran. What don't you understand about that?
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24 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said:
Of course he was aware, he probably had the attacked already planned, but gave their biggest ally a chance to negotiate peace and honored the deadline he gave. It not some conspiracy or well played thing he did. The attack was probably going to happen and Trump got wind and told him to hold off and let him try and get them to come to the table and avoid all of this. Just as likely a scenario as the one you gave.
Iran didnt deal so the attack went ahead that was going to happen anyway. Trump probably used the missiles to help save Israeli and others lives, as they would have had to go in on the ground to take them facilities out and it would have cost everyone a lot.
See I can do that game too, but the fact is we do not know what happened.
But I get it, you have already decided orange man bad based on previous admittances on your part, so you predictably chose the path that fits that lens.
You're painting this like the US has no control over what Israel does. Yet for the entire existence of Israel, despite wanting to attack Iran for most of it, they didn't do so until now. All I had to do was use nearly 80 years of Israeli and Iran interactions to come to such a conclusion.
So lets throw in your version for consideration, it still results in Israel thinking Trump is a weak, dumb, or both. No other outcomes. Your version means Israel held the strongest military power in the world hostage and forced our hand. Then even got us to get involved. That would be even more of a schooling than the version I laid out.
Logic isn't your friend, friend.
McDermott not in Top 10 of NFL coaches per PFF.
in The Stadium Wall
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If it’s any consolation I would never count the number of people who agree as proof of anything. That’s said you’re horribly wrong on this one and should feel deep shame and remorse for your thoughts. But do so in an agreeable way please 😂