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I think what makes stat/story compelling within the broader game is the notion that this is no longer the same Bengals team that owned us offensively. Combine with the prevailing thought that our defense is ascending.
Historically, even with time to devise a new game plan, we have just not been able to do anything vs Burrow, who from my view is basically the mold of a QB you want vs a McD defense. He will take the 5 yards all day, deliver with accuracy. Rinse and repeat.
So while the game certainly won’t be decided on the first drive, if Burrow just carves us up I think that will be rather telling.
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3 minutes ago, Casey D said:
This is kind of silly isn't it. Last game was over two years ago at Cincinnati. Game was 21-7 at halftime. Bengals scored three points in second half in 24-18 win. Really different teams now.
People are scarred from the 2022 playoff game (in January 2023 at home. Bills were emotionally spent after all the weather issues that year and, of course, what happened to Hamlin. And after the game Burrow was smoking cigars and acting like an a-hole, so the PTSD is understandable. Hopefully players that were on the team then remember. But this Bengals defense is a shadow of what it was two years ago, and none of this is predictive of what will happen Sunday IMO. But I could be wrong. 😎
It’s not a prediction post, the Bengals are certainly different. I don’t think the Bengals offense is materially worse and despite a week to prepare for all three games, we couldn’t force an incomplete pass. So yes, it will be interesting to see how the first drive goes from my perspective.
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I highlighted this in the past, it will be interesting to see if anything changes. In his career so far, Burrow is 17 for 17, 182 yards, and 3 TD’s on opening drives vs the Bills. Obviously the Hamlin game never went official and the stats didn’t count, but we still know what happened.
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9 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:
I didn’t select QBs at “random.” Wth ? I listened all qbs with ONE ring. Then I listen ones that i consider great (You’re nitpicking Randall Cunningham?) that couldn’t quite make it over the hump one way or another. My point is high level talent at QB is not always a guarantee to win a SB. What are you not grasping? I feel annoyed that i even had to type this out.
People can get hit by cars when crossing the road. Doesn’t mean it’s likely people will get hit by a car crossing the road. I just took a random list from NFL.com.
Two of Twenty five players have never played in the championship. Most have not only played but won and multiple times.
Allen would get added to the list as he will certainly be on it one day if McD and lil Baller keep it up. Citing anomalies as evidence and hand picking players to do so isn’t evidence.
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56 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:
Randall Cunningham was grossly misused and born in the wrong era. He was Lamar Jackson before LJ. Steve Young is another one that would be an absolute beast in the current NFL. Stats aren’t everything. The Fantasy Football brainwashing continues
Except you’re just selecting players at random and wrong in your assumptions to boot. As stated, they all made Super Bowls, several on that list made multiple super bowls. Have we made a Super Bowl?
Who cares if it was the wrong era for Cunningham? 😂 because ChronicAndKnuckles
declares a guy never made as far as he could because he was born in the wrong decade doesn’t mean he belongs in a list with first ballot half of
fame QB’s. Selective logic, based on lala.
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On 12/1/2025 at 4:58 PM, ChronicAndKnuckles said:
Aaron Rodger’s, Favre, Russell Wilson, Steve Young, Drew Brees, Kurt Warner, Johnny U all only have 1.
Marino, Kelly, Tarkenton, Fouts, Moon, Cunningham have zero.
People think Brady and Mahomes are the norm and they aren’t.
It’s extremely tough to win a SB even when you have all the pieces in place, it still requires a lot of luck. I fault McDermott for 13 seconds, but it was not a given that they would’ve won it all.
What’s funny about this list is all of these guys have played in one outside of system players and somebody that shouldn’t even be on the list in the first place. Randall Cunningham? Give me a break. Moon and Fouts were great QB’s but lessons on why offensive diversification matters. Heavy pass first systems that had defenses that splintered. You could easily argue the systems that made them great were so severely flawed they could never go further, and yes, that is on the coach. Point to them for innovation but not practicality. But those players really have nothing in common with the Bills situation. Watching people try and normalize our inability to even get to the big game is humorous to say the least.
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59 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:
I mean if KC isn't in the tournament I think it 100% matters.
Sean mcvay is the only equivalent to Reid imo
Have you looked at the starting QB’s we have faced in the wild card? These aren’t even playoff caliber teams. Meaningless. Mac Jones, Mason Rudolph, Skyler Thompson, Bo Nix….who cares how we did vs borderline playoff teams starting back ups in home games
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Nobody hates McD, that’s just a creative path people use to dismiss the opinions of those that think this regime, Beane included, is fairly average if not worse. Surely such opinions have to be personal and irrational. The whole thing is boring. This team looks like a floating turd in a punch bowl with people hanging onto to hopes that somehow we alter what has occurred like clockwork for multiple seasons and actually perform better in the playoffs.
Which we can’t. It’s as laughable a notion as saying the Cowboys will just click in the postseason.
15 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:Sounds like the 80s when the Browns couldn't get past the Broncos but I bet if you'd ask Browns fans would they rather be in that situation compared to where they at now most would choose the first.
Bahaha….man, fear, fear, and more fear. Nobody leave the house. A bad thing could happen.
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8 minutes ago, steven50 said:
You need to make up your mind. When I said what did you consider a "championship team" this year you said:
Then you said I was right when I said we have the better QB, RB, and TE.
When I questioned you on what made the patsy's a "championship team" the only thing you could point to was ONE Wide receiver.
This is the reality. The patriots are a game and a half ahead of the bills. They are that way because of the schedule they played and the bills crapping the bed when they played them. That happens every season with every team, not just the Bills.
The Chiefs probably wont even make the playoffs this year, that doesn't mean the Patriots are a better team, that means the Chiefs had a murderers row of a schedule (like the Bills) and the patriots did not.
At this point in the season there are 5 teams so bad they are eliminated from playoff contention already, of those 5 teams the patriots lost to one (the raiders 2-10) and they beat two ( saints 2-10 and Titans 1-11) they also beat the Joe Burrow Less Bengal's, the 3-9 Browns and lost to the same Steelers team we beat today. They get to play another one (Giants) this week.
They did not and will not play the chiefs, Ravens, Eagles, or Bengals with Joe Burrow. The bills did or will.
That is not a "championship team" Its a middle of the road team with a weak schedule. I know that this week they get to beat up on the 2-10 NY giants which will probably further solidify in your mind that they are a "champion team".
Sure thing buddy.
Maye is playing better than Allen right now. He might not BE better, but he is playing better. They have a more dynamic offense as whole, as far as the WR group, and McDaniels calling plays. They have a better defense. Specifically a better run defense. They clearly have an edge with attitude and confidence.
I believe they’re overrated, in fact, I believe they’re the worst 10-2 team from a DVOA perspective since the late 70’s. But they’re also young, and while they have benefited from the schedule they’re also learning how to win as they go thru it. It was very similar to the Patriots first year with Brady. They were likely overrated for most of that year, until eventually they were a pretty good team. Not to say they’re anything like that Pats iteration as far as upside potential, but just because they have had an easy schedule and are overrated relative to the record, it doesn’t mean that is the only narrative that can exist.
Meanwhile, we really don’t have a lot of room to talk about other teams being overrated. Our marquee win is what, Carolina? The Chiefs and Ravens games aren’t exactly aging well. While I know YOU just dismiss it all to SOS, eventually you do need to win games to be considered good. Something the Ravens and the Chiefs just aren’t doing and something we have struggled with at times vs far worse teams.
It’s Intersting that people here are making an argument that the AFC is just paper tigers when it’s pretty obvious the Bills are as well. Virtually no quality wins (unless you use quality based on past years) inconsistent play all over the place. Sure, it’s always any given Sunday, but we have a long way to go to string together multiple wins in a row against teams that have been able to close out games and win multiple ways, regardless of those wins have been against flawed teams (as the Bills wins have as well).
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Crazy to be how much this board swings week to week. Despite what we saw against a back up QB and a guy collecting social security with one arm, this defense can/will revert to against more functional offenses. All the focus is on the offense right now, but this defense is far from “book it” level.
Forget about the obvious lack of playmakers outside. Within that, Brady’s scheme has regressed and teams are much better prepared for it now. Allen is not playing with confidence, accuracy, or any degree of decisiveness. Not saying this to
place blame, he needs more help, clearly, but he’s also missing layups at times. His energy level is total dog crap for long periods which is a reflection of the team as a whole and its inconsistent play.
While most the AFC teams have some serious flaws and are capable of being beat, I’m not sure if this team can win 3 in a row against .500 level teams at this stage. They’re a wild card caliber squad, not much more. I don’t think winning out is possible, they just aren’t consistent enough.
Even with the flawed contenders, they’re playing with far more consistency, swag, or unit specific dominance. Things we just don’t have. We don’t have a unit as dominant as Houston or Denver’s defense. We don’t have the confidence/swag of the Patriots, who feel more like the early iterations of the Bills before the fun got sucked out. Jacksonville and the Chargers are just playing better football on both sides and again, more confidence, swag, youth.
This Bills team just looks like it’s been battling to stay on top of a mountain all year. But it’s stopped trying to climb higher for awhile now. Other teams might not be world beaters, but they’re clearly trying to continue the climb.
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13 minutes ago, gobills404 said:
That makes it sound like they consistently weren’t competitive. They went 5-12 in 2022 (Stafford missed half the season) and then went 10-7 and made the playoffs in 2023 and 2024.
One drive away from knocking off the Eagles last year. Beat us last year. Several points to credibility if anybody thinks they aren’t lapping us in team building at this point
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6 hours ago, MainEvent said:
You must be fun at parties.
He watches others go to parties
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11 minutes ago, US Egg said:
I wasn’t aware of this, but just bought the Amazon Black Friday NBA League pass special and was prompted to link it to my FD account. Ignored it not thinking anything. Put on a game to watch, there’s a pop up bet tracking option offered if you bet on the game.
That is wild. It’s crazy to say the least, especially with all the big 4 leagues pushing it so hard. I’ve always dabbled and for most my life it was something I just didn’t discuss because so few people understood any of it. Now it’s just standard recreation for many.
But this peer to peer stuff is way out there. I remember before the offshores were basically banned, we had some peer to peer places get shut down in the US. Then they just disappeared. That followed the sports books lobbying for almost a decade to get it legal. Then they finally start winning at the state level. But now even Robinhood is offering straight spreads and totals in all 52 states saying they don’t need any betting licenses because they aren’t a bookie. Hard to imagine this is sustainable.
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3 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:
I think people are getting caught up in what I’m gonna call the ‘Vikings paradox’ cuz this happened to them twice fairly recently 😂. Like colts/pats may end up with an overall record of a team that typically makes it to the afc championship game but put yourself in the hypothetical scenario that you’re sitting down to watch a division round game and it’s the 1 seed pats/colts vs a 6 or 7 seed 10 win chiefs team. What do you deep down in your heart of hearts really think the outcome of that game would be? Chiefs/ravens schedule really lightens up so the whole overall record ‘chiefs/ravens aren’t that good’ feeling is probably gonna fade in the next month or so
the chiefs are extremely flawed compared to peak chiefs teams of years past of course but peak chiefs teams of years past aren’t really relevant here at all.. it would just be how do the current chiefs match up with pats/colts etc and it’s really hard to see either of those teams as a better team than the chiefs overall flaws and all or the ravens. The colts have probably the biggest flaw heading to the playoffs and the pats have a bills thing going on where they’ve got a good qb but everyone else is just pretty solid which is gonna be tough sledding against a lot of these tough defenses on the afc side. Maybe they get a better playoff diggs than we ever got but even he in his prime was getting locked up pretty good by kc in the playoffs
really should be the ravens year the way I see it but if the chiefs are hanging around the ravens definitely won’t beat them 😂
Don’t get me wrong I don’t think the chiefs are some excellent team I just think the afc field is so weak this year that they could do enough to earn the right to get throttled in the Super Bowl. I would love to be wrong and see kc go out and lose to Dallas tomorrow though for sure haha but then it’s back to the ravens being the problem
I think you’re largely right. My view is pretty simple, who would I in the playoffs? The underperforming Bills, Chiefs, or Ravens or the over performing Broncos, Colts, Jaguars, or Patriots? It’s really not close from my view. The historical cream of the crop is still the cream of the crop in a single game elimination.
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For this team, I thought the vision of complimentary football was better in the first build.
I’m happy we want a more consistent running game, but the entire defensive system is meant for defending the pass. We have barely cared at any point over fortifying our run defense. So to me, complimentary would be less ball control, developing an offense that is more dangerous and explosive enough to more routinely force teams to be one dimensional on offense, and into more passing situations. Which we saw a lot in the first build. Which is what our defense is designed for.
We seem to run counter this, shortening the game, trying to win low possession games, higher variance events like turnover margin. Which has not gone well this year.
We have the foundation to really build an elite offense, yet even if we did, it seems like we want to focus on being ball control. I really don’t get it to be honest. This team has lost its way from my perspective.
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Kalshi has wager options on virtually anything you can think of and even offers spread and total betting. Since it’s peer to peer, no state regulations like Fanduel or DraftKings etc.
It’s pretty wild to see how betting has changed over the last 5 years.
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1 minute ago, boyst said:
His body quit on him. It was clear as day. Anyone who's athletic and washed out at any age or ability can recognize it.
Your posts are old and not what they once were
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1 hour ago, The Jokeman said:
Then I guess we should count out all the stats the teams above us had against the scrubs and see how they rate?
By all means
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So before the start of 2024, we lose Diggs. We draft a guy that is universally regarded as having separation issues that is discussed as being better off in the slot. We sign a middle tier FA, whose history is better off in the slot. We call it good, watch the team struggle in the first half of the season. Trade for Cooper. The following offseason, we sign a middle tier FA. We don't add anybody else. We triple down how good we are. We watch the team struggle the first half of the year. We can't make a trade. Then we sign a middle tier FA.
Beane, you suck.
Just now, The Jokeman said:Yeah damn let's fire OC that's given us the 3rd best offense in terms of points and yards in the NFL with some here call the worst WR core in the league 😐
Who cares when it's against the scrubs of the world.
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3 minutes ago, Simon said:
5 days ago I watched him make two splash plays in the 4th qrtr that forced punts and literally gave the Bills a chance to win the game.
But because they weren't on your stat sheet, you disregard them.
You might even say Greg Rousseau is sneaky good.
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9 minutes ago, Avisan said:
This is exactly what I'm talking about
He's objectively a good and impactful player, but his impact doesn't show up specifically in sacks, so he must not actually be good.
If he were the high-octane pass-rusher you want him to be, he would have re-signed for 40mil+. He makes half of that, because he's merely adequate as a pass-rusher while doing everything else exceptionally well.
3 minutes ago, Simon said:So despite the fact that he's beating people up on the regular, Greg Rousseau is a problem because 2 years from now the Bills might want to restructure his contract?
Good grief man, talk about borrowing trouble.....
If you question whether Greg Rousseau is making an impact, you're not paying attention.
This team needs to get sacks from somewhere right? Actually putting an offense in a long situation is meaningful in this game? A sack itself is one of the biggest negative EPA events an offense has short of a holding call or turnover. He is not a bad player, I'm not suggesting that. But he will be the highest paid DE on this team for the foreseeable future and is representative of how this team invests as a whole. We won't get splash plays, sacks, and turnovers from his contributions. We will get sound football. I think it's fair to ask more for the investment.
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19 minutes ago, Avisan said:
Just fantasy football/gambling mentality imo
Pretty much every time I say Groot is good and worth his contract here and on other boards I get a nice wave of negative reactions from all of the very smart and stable football geniuses that are "fans" of this team
If there isn't a big box score the player must be terrible
It's crazy to expect a top 20 DE to have one year with 10 or more sacks or generate even 5 sacks this year? Give me a break. It's like everything else with this team.
"our offense is going to be sneaky good"
"We have quietly improved the WR room"
"This player is actually good, but he doesn't do what other good players do at his position"
Nothing with this team just is. At the end of the day a top 20 DE needs to generate sacks. Not almost sacks, actual sacks. He needs to make splash plays. If you have to ask the question if a player is making an impact, he's not.
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1 hour ago, PatsFanNH said:
You know what they say once your in the dance anything can happen.. a 6th seed can be SB champs
Agree, oddly, I give Buffalo a better chance of winning straight up in a playoff game. But I give New England more of a chance at making that sort of improbable run.
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2 hours ago, PatsFanNH said:
Lmao I don’t consider them SB contenders but I think they can beat Buffalo. Mind you Vegas still has Buffalo as a sb favorites and that’s just insane IMO and not based on anything but where the money came in at
I would say the Bills and Patriots are equally overrated
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Opening drives vs Burrow
in The Stadium Wall
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Maybe? I mean, they had three starters out on the OL in the playoff game. It really hasn’t seemed to matter how bad the offensive line play was vs us. The current offensive iteration is way more prolific. It’s not as power centric which does bode well for us. From my view attempts at minimizing them offensively relative to the past is sort of hair splitting at best. In all likelihood, both offenses should be able to do want they want.