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Mikie2times
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1 minute ago, Marcus Aurelius said:
"Bishop absolutely laid out Mrs Swift in the end zone ..."
Highlight of the game!
Hell ya it was. That's a big boy as well. Even if Bishop delivered the hit I know he felt that one himself. But it was a hell of a hit right in the rib cage. That is a will taking play. You don't want to be in the middle of the field after something like that.
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Just now, Generic_Bills_Fan said:
Someone else got hammered while still in bounds dancing their way to the sideline earlier today too I’m tryin to remember who it was 😂 Bryce young I think
refs threw the flag then picked it up
It was, he was still in bounds but clearly trying to get out and got popped pretty hard
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27 minutes ago, Virgil said:
No lead in needed for this game; we all know what this is. Please join in and list your thoughts as well.
Also, I know these are meant to be "in no particular order, but the first four points were all things we've been waiting all season for and I couldn't be happier with how they worked out.
1A - Hairston - Pick your play here. Hairston kept up with Worthy EASILY on a deep route, batted down the game winning Hail Mary, and picked off Mahomes for his first career interception for the only turnover of the game. Yes, it's only been a game and a half, but Hairston looks to be as advertised in coverage, speed, and hands. You have to love it and he picked the perfect game for his coming out party. Can't wait to see more of what this kid has to offer.
1B - Bishop - I mean, holy ***** did Bishop ball out. I didn't take notes for this game, so my memory might be failing me, but Bishop was EVERYWHERE this game. Not only that, but he absolutely laid out Mrs Swift in the end zone. Bishop had quite a few pass break up where he punished the receiver, and I honestly thought he had a chance at a pick six on a beautifully tracked swing pass to the near side. I don't know what clicked recently, but if Bishop and Hairston are going to continue to play at this level, or secondary is in MUCH better shape.
1C - Cook Catch - I was so tempted to put this first, but we threw to Cook in a crucial situation and got the first down. I repeat, Brady called a pass to Cook out of the backfield. It's amazing how such a simple play can get me so hyped. Cook overall had another great game, eclipsing 100 yards against a team that doesn't allow those types of games. It's almost as if the Bills realized that they have multiple stars on offense that aren't named Allen (see Kincaid).
1D - McD - While I'm not going to excuse the time outs on defense, I do understand why he called them. The players clearly looked confused out there and McD needed to save them. Now, why were they confused is a bigger issue. Also, I don't know how much of the plays are being called by Babich or McD, but the defensive turnaround these past few weeks makes me believe McD is way more involved. Holding Mahomes to under 50% passing and actually sending pressure on the final play was HUGE for the defense, and another thing we've been begging for out of this defense. Making Mahomes throw up that last pass off his back foot, not allowing it to have enough power to get to the end zone was exactly how you need to play him. Not only that, but Mahomes was smacked around the field today in the best way possible. Also, did you see the Chiefs 3rd down conversion percentage?! It's about time.
5 - Josh - I referred to the Chiefs as Allen's 7 iron, in that he always seems to pull out his best games against them. Josh even said in his post game presser that he just felt different early on. Josh only had three incomplete passes all game and was incredibly accurate on his balls downfield. I still feel like Josh is playing a little frustrated or held back, but it's tough to argue with the results. I like that we didn't force balls to Coleman and utilized the guys who got open. We were a missed field goal from breaking 30, and that's even with us having two terrible drives after our opening one.
6 - Defensive Line - While it sucks to lose Hoecht, and being without Oliver for the rest of the regular season, it was great to see the everyone else step up. AJ played a great game, and smacked the sense out of Mahomes. Bosa was a monster all game, minus the mind-numbing decision to stop his pressure on the 4th and 17 play. Groot also was great in pursuit as well as against the run. I would actually argue that Groot sneakily played one of the best games of the season.
7 - Kincaid - If ever there were a game for the those banging the drum of Kincaid being our #1 receiver or Josh hanging in the pocket a second longer, look no further than the long catch and run on the crossed by Kincaid. With pressure coming and a congested middle of the field, Josh stepped forward and found Kincaid as he got behind the defender. Sometimes I forget how fast Kincaid was. His first touchdown got me on my feet and teams are going to need to start paying more attention to him.
8 - Hancock - For anyone with the All-22, I'm very curious to get feedback on Hancock from this game. On the long catch before half, and the deep sideline catch on the pick play, was Hancock the responsible deep safety and slow to recognize the play? I could be wrong, but he seemed to come to the play late. Again, happy to be wrong, but he seemed to be responsible for 2 of the 3 biggest Chief passing plays.
9 - Offensive Line - Even with the Chiefs sending stunt blitzes, extra rushers, and being dominant against the run, Josh overall had time, Cook got his 100 yards, and I didn't hear Chris Jones' name once. Spencer Brown absolutely mauled some guys and I think we only had one holding penalty? Just a great performance overall by the unit. Shout out to Gilliam too.
10 - Stats and Outcome - There's two things I didn't like from this game. Statistically, we dominated. Mahomes was under 50% completion and didn't score a touchdown. The Chiefs were terrible on 3rd down. Kelce and Jones were non-factors. And yet, we still needed to survive a Hail Mary at the end. How is that even possible? Yes, Prater could have made it a two score game and that 4th and 17th was ridiculous. Even still, it's scary when we can play at that level and still barely win.
Overall, I'm not putting stock into this win any more than we are 1-0 this week and have the tie-breaker over the Chiefs. I'm glad to see the team back on the positive uptick both offensively and defensively, but I also recognize this game means nothing towards the outcome of our playoff success. I'm back to believing we can play with anyone, and don't even try to tell me the Chiefs were holding back because it's only the regular season. They want to win their division and this hurt them.
Go Bills!
As always great write up, you're probably my favorite post game summary poster.
The good
1. The secondary looks like it could develop into a strength as the season wears on. That is a really exciting development and could turn the tide on the the direction of this season.
2. McD is calling the bulk of these plays if not all of them. I'm fine with that. We need to be in our best calls more than ever.
3. The defensive line looked great, Bosa was on fire. The Hoecht loss is devastating. He looked like a real player.
4. Cook is just so good and the offensive line was dominating
5. Kincaid is a serious difference maker and almost required for us to be effective offensively
6. Allen had a great game and stayed in the pocket more, offensive line kept him super clean most the day.
7. Love the pressure on the hail mary. We have seen a few of those transpire now, it would have been so disappointing to see us drop everybody and give a clean throw.
The bad
1. Again nothing downfield with our WR's and very limited work outside of screens. I don't think we can climb to the top of the mountain with this type of WR output.
2. Hoecht injury seemed impactful almost right away. Bosa was insane, but he's also disappeared at times. As have others. Can we get consistency in line play and grow as the season wears on?
3. A couple calls bothered me. The 3rd and 10 screen to Shakir. I get that we aren't a long yardage offense at this point, but we can't throw in the white flag on 3rd and 10. This sort of goes back to point #1 about downfield WR production. It is required as an offense and we will need it.
4. Kicking the FG late. You have 7 point lead, a punt pins them inside the 20 and likely drains 3-4 more seconds off. It would have forced them to go 80+ yards with no timeouts and under 25 seconds. Sign me up for that. The ONLY chance they had was that missed FG and we walked into that. Didn't bite us today, but I really disagree with that move.
The final
It was a huge win for us for playoff seeding and AFC east seeding. Pure domination vs one of the better teams in the AFC. It was a similar script to how we lost the last couple weeks but this time we dished out the punishment. The progression of guys like Bishop and Max can't be understated and could really transform this defense. As you said, it's 1-0, and we have a long way to go, but great win and exciting to see some development with key players.
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2 minutes ago, Psautcsk said:
I was hoping that we would have punted as well.
It was the right call to punt. It would have drained even more time. Unlikely they even can threaten the end zone. The only real path to doing so was a missed long FG.
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Noticeable improvement on defense. I think it’s likely McD calling plays. Makes you wonder how bad Babich really was.
When the pass rush gets home they look good I think that will probably stay inconsistent in that area. Bosa has been off and on. Great game today. Hoecht was making a difference but now he’s lost. Secondary looked great. Very encouraged by Bishop. Max also played well.
Wish we would have punted at the end there but it still worked out and I like the pressure package on the Hail Mary.
Big win, obviously. Really needed that one. Always feels great beating these guys.
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Gene doesn’t even know if you can replay it
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We submit on 3rd and 10? Just awful by Brady. This is the NFL, you have Allen. You need to try and convert on 3rd and 10. Chiefs said thank you.
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Bishop have an all pro game today.
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They really should have won the last 3 games. Fumbles right at the endzone (like instant replay close) cost them wins vs California and Virginia. The defense is playing as well as any in the ACC right now. Offense is still really bad, but I think BB has done a pretty decent job getting these kids to keep grinding. It’s not hard to see this program really turning it around next year if they can figure out how to score. I think he will build a championship defense if the last few weeks are any indication.
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2 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
The description of his channel straight out says it:
"Here to examine and challenge pieces of sports and life... fun stories and a lot of bad data"
Videos like the QB position is the most overrated in sports. The most important person to a football team is not the coach or QB, but the GM. And now a video that has you thinking we're a very good passing offense and ready to go to war as the contrarian.
Moving on from all of this, I hope you're right. But the results in the field when we needed something besides the running game says otherwise.
It's clear the guys schtick is to be abrasive and contrarian. I'm sure he's tripping over breasts on the way to the restroom.
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1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said:
How do you figure it's only efficient with a lead? Did you even watch the video?
We've made deep runs plenty of times now and we've fallen short for the same reason every year, namely our defense wasn't up to the task (especially in 2021), and we didn't execute the couple plays a game where we needed to on offense (2023,2024). I think if we had an elite defense, which they tried to build by getting Von Miller, then we'd see them just keep airing it out like they used to. In absence of that, it's come down on Josh's shoulders needing him to be perfect, which he was until he wasn't on the final plays of 2023 and 2024.
The scheme they are running now, takes that pressure off of him, because now Cook can carry an equal or even outsized share of the load. A use of 2 and 3 tight end sets with 3 TEs capable of being dangerous int eh passing game, allow sus to take advantage of anyone that decides they want to try to shut down the run game. You stack the box, they go over the top to Knox, Hawes and Kincaid. You bring in lighter personnel to defend that? Cook buries you on the ground.I watched the video, it's a great video. Just as coordinators call a run defense or pass defense, they scheme that defense to defend concepts. Without a downfield passing game it allows teams to take out what we do well. Which you don't see in the aggregate, but you see situationally and against certain teams. You will see it more as competition rises. At times the downfield passing game will be absolutely required and not having it hurts our chances for success.
I don't mind that we play small ball at times, I would also like a great defense. That doesn't mean we can afford to just not develop one of the most critical positions in a modern day offense. Then design scheme to try and minimize those impacts. It makes us worse no matter what style we choose to play. Again, situationally, it becomes obvious.
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10 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:
Eagles fans started complaining about Sirianni awfully quick after their superbowl win to be fair 😂 heck a lot of people wanted him fired midseason the year they did win it despite them recently appearing in one lol
I mean, we aren't Eagles fans. The contempt for McD is literally one thing. Long time fans are desperate to get a ring and they don't believe McD can.
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10 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:
And the data shows we have balance.
What you're suggesting is a hypothetical future in which we don't have balance. That scenario does not exist. If opposing defenses want to stack the box against Josh Allen, it will likely result in some of the most hilarious outcomes in the history of professional football.
You do realize we still have Josh Allen, right? Just because they aren't asking him to be Daunte Culpepper dropping bombs to Randy Moss all day, doesn't mean he lacks the ability to exploit a one-dimensional defense.
I'd recommend worrying about things that are actual issues, like the state of our RB room, or our defensive playmakers, rather than something that will almost certainly never happen.Let me know how balanced we look when either the run game is taken away or we need to pass. Your preview is Atlanta and New England, maybe the divisional round the last two years.
Football is situational. The formula that you say is efficient is only efficient with a lead and when we can run. It could be made even more efficient, as it was to some extent last year, with some type of downfield passing threat to keep the box clean. Even if our condensed passing game is efficient, it isn't functional or practical in other situations. Situations that the best teams in the NFL have to excel in to be considered to be the best teams in the NFL. This team has been top 5 in DVOA since 2020. It puts up stats, but fails in having enough ways to win when the defense is rarely one of them. Allen alone, Cook, and a usually hobbled Kincaid are not going to give us a championship team. Again, Beane thinking, why we are here, why we keep doing this year after year.
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5 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:
I guess the point is that some people on the internet think the Bills have "passing woes".
I don't. The data doesn't. Internet people do."Eye tests" are about the least reliable way to measure anything. 100 people have 200 eyes and all of them lie.
This is a great argument, similar to one we heard in the offseason about how we didn't need to add any weapons to the greatest offense in franchise history. What's funny is the video you posted should clearly explain what the pitfalls of this offense are. The entire video is about the necessity for balance to maximize output. How do you think a defense responds to a team that won't throw the ball more than 5 yards downfield? The entire defense starts to condense making all other possible outcomes less successful. What happens in high leverage situations like the last drive of a divisional playoff game where we have to pass in a traditional way and can't be dependent on screens and Cook? Guys can't get open.
Beane already sold the snake oil. We don't need anymore.
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5 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:
I think a lot of you make a lot of this "hatred" up so you feel better. When folks critique McD there is almost never any "hatred". Most critiques are prefaced with what a great guy he is, what a great job he's done on culture and his ability to pull teams out of the basement. And then even with all that disclaiming and qualifying, pointing out any of his glaring flaws gets these over-emotional replies like we're trying to get the guy killed. I think there is obvious reasons McD apologists turn every critique into a discussion about the posters instead of addressing the actual issues with McD.
The assumptions of complaints about a Super Bowl victory is one of the most egregious strawmen I've seen on this board.
Its to make the people critical of him appear irrational or driven by motive. This concept that Bills fans would still complain about McD after we hoist a trophy is one of the most misguided I have ever heard. Will he still get complaints when he does dumb crap? Sure, every coach does. Will anybody be able to to say he can't get it done? No. That argument will be over. Even if we trip and crash land onto the trophy, we will still have it and the noise will go away.
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57 minutes ago, LEBills said:
You may not find a bigger pre-draft and current fan of Franklin than me. But the other poster is right that Keon as a whole has been better over the past two years. Yards per route run, first downs per route run, etc.Franklin has improved a lot from 2024 to this year, but that has coincided with him getting much more snaps out of the slot which is what basically everyone says the Bills need to try with Keon. Now unlike Keon, Franklin was instantaneously a great separator and I think he will continue to improve. If he can get his hands more consistent, he will be a good WR.
I think Keon will be ok in the league. In the role he has been pigeonholed into and his current strengths as a receiver, it will lead to him being a very inconsistent player over the course of the season
I mean, I don’t disagree that Coleman is being misused, but how incompetent does our GM need to be to draft a guy who can only be successful playing slot when you have a TE, and at least 3 other positions where that is the primary role? If your argument is until Keon becomes a slot he just can’t be evaluated, I just can’t get on board with that because it will never happen here. I can only evaluate what is actually happening and what is likely to keep happening and in that, Franklin is the better performer with a more desirable
skill set.
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4 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:
No, it's not what we need according to Beane and McDermott. We haven't tried to fill that type of role with any meaningful attempts at any point in their tenure here. You could argue John Brown had that skillset, but it's not really how we used him. The only people clamoring for that type of receiver are the armchair GMs here.
Seems like the arm chair QB’s had a step on the mastermind
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1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said:
Who said I'm digging in? You're the one making this a big deal like there was some gross miss on Franklin. Coleman is a part of the puzzle, nothing more. I don't believe for a second he was drafted to be a traditional #1. He was brought in to be the big bodied red zone threat the bills have been coveting for nearly 30 years.
Coleman is the guy they drafted to fill that need, and whether or not he's doing it to the level they expect, we can argue about that. Franklin would not be that guy for us, and he'd probably be the 5th WR on the team if he were here. When i say I wouldn't trade for him, it's because he doesn't fill a need we have, he creates a hole, and as a pure talent, there's not much evidence he's any better than Coleman thus far.The post you responded to was about being perturbed we didn't draft him in the 4th round. You wanted to focus more on Coleman vs Franklin, which to me is an easy conversation. He's the #2 WR for Denver, a burner that can stretch the field. That isn't what we need? Instead we need a big slot when we have 3 other natural slot WR's? It was a dumb pick. I even liked Coleman at the time, but I'm not paid millions of dollars to draft players. Even with how dumb I am, I would have spent the 4th round pick on Franklin as most couch QB's on this site were begging for. Turned out they were all largely right and our GM was wrong.
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57 minutes ago, Big Turk said:
Worked out pretty well for us...I can't believe Cleveland is as awful as they are year after year drafting in the top 5
When Baker was healthy the made the playoffs.
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Anybody else have a chance to catch this? They have a live look into the instant replay booth. I love the transparency and being able to listen into the conversation. The process seems clear, transparent, and is very trustworthy. It even brings a nice level of entertainment to the moment when otherwise you're just sitting there watching nothing.
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40 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:
Probably not. Franklin was useless last season, and while he's had a slightly better start to the season, most of his production is in 2 games. He hasn't done anything to rise from a 4th round pick to a high 2nd round pick caliber so far. He has two modetsly ok games in his entire career so far, neither above 100 yards. Coleman by contrast has 2 games over 100 yards.
I guess I don't see Coleman's limited production as a problem. It looks to me like they're using him how they want to use him. His job is to catch 0-3 important balls a game. I also kind of think that's the way they want to use Josh. Hand the ball off, take the dinks and dunks, and make the big 3rd/4th down play when we need it. The rest of the time, play safe, and hit the open underneath guy.
I don't think it's a bad plan, either.This is a really silly position to dig in on. On one hand you minimize Franklin for having all his production in two games, on the other Coleman has 19 catches 155 yards in the last 6 games. The only reason Coleman has done more statistically in his career is the Bills gave him the spot last year based on his draft position. Franklin has had to earn it. You're trusting Beane's grade at this point, which is fine, but it's not exactly a short list as far as WR's who get drafted early and become nothing nor is Beane shown to be some WR whisperer.
Franklins ability to stretch the field is clearly superior and his numbers when factoring in the target share of both offenses are more impressive. Denver actually has some mouths to feed. Coleman should be eating like crazy. What else is crazy is assuming Buffalo is basically using him as a decoy. Nobody cares about Coleman, he can't be a decoy. He's wearing DB's like a Macy's jacket when he's out there. Teams care about a WR with sub 4.4 speed who is 6"3 and can take the top off. Maybe you don't care but I guarantee you McD does after the playoff game last year.
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36 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:
Yeah to me, one of the things most Bills fans seem to misunderstand about Shakir is he is NOT an instinctive, reliable route runner like Beasley was. If he were, Allen would be feeding him non-stop. He doesn't have complete faith in Shakir that way and you can't throw the ball over the middle to a small target if you don't have complete faith that you will be on the same page.
When Diggs and Davis were outside in 2023 it wasn't exactly Air Coryell but defense's couldn't just focus on one area of the field and were often doubling Diggs and putting CB1 on Davis. That left some huge holes in the middle of the field for Shakir back in 2023. It created this misconception that he was one of those "always open" types.
Defense's are squatting in those areas where he was thriving back then. So they are forced to throw a lot of really short passes to get the ball in his hands so they can get that high end RAC out of him.
I want to give you a thumbs down for fun, but couldn't agree more. Shakir is elite, but it's a very niche elite YAC skill set, perfect for screens. He's fairly pedestrian downfield or even getting open in the short and intermediary routes. Beasley was basically automatic over the middle of the field within 10 yards on those slants and in routes. He could always get open. The two players couldn't be any more different.
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22 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:
... and 2 TDs. Don't leave that part out.
40 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:If you want to base your whole opinion off one graph on twitter, I guess DK Metcalf and Tee Higgins stink too.
You wouldn't trade Franklin for Coleman straight up?
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