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1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said:
I agree that Chris Jones is a stud and the Bills don't have a comparable individual player on the DL.
But Bills fans think Chris Jones is way more impactful against the Bills than he actually is.
In the 3 wins over Buffalo in the playoffs Chris Jones has a paltry 3 total tackles, 1 TFL and ZERO sacks.
Ed Oliver......who all Bills fans will agree hasn't played well against Mahomes in the playoffs..... has 4 tackles, 2 TFL and 1 sack in those same 3 games.
The perception is that Jones has made huge impacts. That's not the truth though.
Derek Brown led the NFL in tackles for a DT
8 minutes ago, HappyDays said:You are aware that Klein didn't force his way onto the field, right? He was on the field in place of another player. A player that came into the game in the 4th quarter and made a couple of stops on his own. Wish we could have seen what that looked like from the start. Again, oh well.
This isn't hindsight analysis by the way. I said before the game Dorian Williams should get the start and only be pulled if he looked completely lost. McDermott turtled up and chose the safe comfortable option instead because that's what he does. That's what he'll continue to do. I've made my peace with that and adjusted my personal philosophy on how the team should be built to account for that handicap.
Similarly Dane Jackson played like garbage in the divisional round. Douglas was limping around out there. What happened to our 1st round CB that made a game changing INT one week before? McDermott isn't comfortable with him so he rides the bench while the safe known products get do-si-do'd.
You want to talk about injuries? In the 2022/2023 playoffs the Chiefs lost Mahomes for an entire quarter of play in the wildcard round and then he played on a high ankle sprain the rest of the playoffs. Their #1 WR played injured and their #3 WR missed the divisional round. They suffered all of this en route to a Super Bowl win. Do you think our LB injuries were more impactful than that?
Like I've said, our coaching isn't on par with the competition. We will need the offensive talent to clearly outmatch the competition to have a real shot. If we have to win a shootout to get over the playoff hump, so be it. Maybe McDermott will find a way to screw it up anyways, he's done it once before, but it's pretty clearly our best chance.
How about the Bengals have like 2 healthy offensive lineman when they blew us out?
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3 hours ago, Beast said:
He spells rumor with a “u” so that means he’s either Canadian or a Bloke which means he’s not legit. 👍🍺😂Given he appears like a Lions fan I'm going with Canadian
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4 minutes ago, eball said:
I don’t have a link to it. I’m sure you can find it easily enough. I wonder how many around here agree with him?
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1 hour ago, Augie said:
Put a little more effort into making sure you DO arrive.
Since moving to the lovely traffic of Atlanta I’ve shifted my tune a bit. If anybody needs in, I’ll give you every opportunity to change lanes. We are all in this same sh!t together!
Yup, I didn't feel that way until coming to San Diego. I didn't see much of this in Ohio/Michigan. Drivers here are actually pretty bad. I hear Atlanta is also a mess.
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People that drive excessively fast in heavy traffic. I get going fast, but you're barely arriving earlier than other people when it's that slow. Just chill the "F" out.
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9 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
lol I didn’t even see this thread. I made a comment about the 2015 Panthers today.
The most dominant franchise since 2000 also undervalued WR, NE Patriots.
They did have two pro bowl level TE's for a stretch. One Hall of Fame TE for most the run. When they did finally pursue a stud they produced the greatest offense of all time (somehow not winning the Super Bowl). I think in hindsight that could be viewed as a mistake. If Brady had a Moss like WR for most his career he would have at least a few more rings I would think.
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A lot of people really have no clue who Brady is. Not saying I do either, but the guy is an ENFP on the Meyers Briggs. For context Robin Williams is probably to most famous male ENFP of all time. These people are usually actors, comedians, or artists. Can easily take jokes and role with the punches. They like being the center of attention, it doesn't matter if the joke is on them.
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2 hours ago, boyst said:
in miami?
Cleveland
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Sources deep from within tell me whatever this is could also involve Zach Ertz.
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1 hour ago, FireChans said:
Plaxico never even made a Pro Bowl man. He got force fed but was horrifically inefficient. Caught 50% of the balls thrown his way lol. He was Gabe Davis with a bigger target share.
Plaxico is Gabe Davis? By all means, explain that one.
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3 hours ago, Steptide said:
I vividly remember watching Jordan and the bulls on Sundays, and every other day they played really. The bulls in the playoffs back then was magic. Bulls and knicks was a amazing rivalry, especially during playoffs
WGN was the only time I recall an out of market channel being broadcast in other regions. Not sure if WGN was in Buffalo as well but it was in Detroit. So nearly all Bulls games. Then the Cubs and White Sox.
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6 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:
Duke Williams
Big body, contested catch guy, a little more like Keon than I would say Gabe is, but not an athlete compared to him. Keon has a 38 inch vertical compared to Dukes 30 inch vertical. That is a huge difference. Keon ran the 10 yard sprint at 1.54 which is above average for a guy his size while Williams was at 1.70. We haven't had a lot of bigger contested catch types here. Certainly none with this sort of athletic ability.
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10 hours ago, KDIGGZ said:
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4 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:
They are bigger bodied WR that use their size as leverage to get the ball instead of speed and separation.
They both hit their peak speed at 30 yards as opposed to 20 yards like your faster guys. I don’t know Colemans 60 yard time but I would bet he would have a good time there.Coleman is two inches taller, 3 inches more vertical, faster 10 yard sprint, way more athletic. Gabe was our deep threat. His hands sucked, limited route tree. He gave us no additional bump in the red zone. He wasn’t a jump ball or contested catch guy.
They both have reasonably slower 40’s and are not short. The players have nothing else in common besides that. We haven’t had a Coleman in this offense yet it really in Buffalo since I can remember. Who would be a Buffalo comp to the guy even going back to the 90’s? I don’t think we have had one.
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10 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said:
Again, Coleman isn’t replacing Diggs. He is a completely different kind of player. Coleman is replacing Davis. Samuel or Shakir will be replacing Diggs.
Davis 6’2” 225
Coleman 6’3” 213
Diggs 6’0“ 191
Shakir 6’0” 190
Samuel 5’11” 195
Samuel or Shakir on the outside is going to be one of the big questions in camp. Shakir is know as an excellent route runner both inside and out. Both guys have experience outside experience. Shakir’s outside experience was primarily in college. Samuel’s does have outside NFL experience but it’s about 26% of his snaps. Samuel’s better speed might ultimately be the deciding factor.
What does Coleman have in common with Davis outside of being bigger than average? I don’t see anything else.
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4 minutes ago, Mister Defense said:
I think you just need to watch some Bills games, as apparently you have not--and do not realize just how talented this team and its coaching have bee under your boys, Beane and McD, and that is not just Josh Allen.
It'd be great for you to answer my question in my previous post: "How can your far superior, dramatically more talented team, so not even close in your eyes, be soo good, yet still suck so badly the year before that and the year after?? Most of the players you heap praise on were on those teams too."
I hope you can see that it completely undermines your OP, and main point, that you cannot respond--if they were such a far superior talent, team--where did all that amazing talent go the year before and the year after your team's seminal season?? You would be calling in the cavalry, and maybe literally!, if the Bills ever went 5-8 or 6-8-1, yet are calling for that, rather than what we have here in Buffalo...
Josh Allen QBR ranks
2023 3rd
2022 2nd
2021 6th
2020 3rd
Cam Newton QBR Ranks
2014 18th
2015 11th
2016 25th
2017 19th
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13 minutes ago, Mister Defense said:
Yup, yet gain not responding to the reality I present.
Go Panthers!!
Good luck!
Lol
This is boring, but you clearly need it spelled out
Josh Allen QBR ranks
2023 3rd
2022 2nd
2021 6th
2020 3rd
Cam Newton QBR Ranks
2014 18th
2015 11th
2016 25th
2017 19th
I got you most of the way. How about you finish this off and let me know how often teams makes the playoffs with a top 5 QBR vs 15 QBR or lower?
I know it is hard for you to understand that a team with less talent can actually perform more consistently but it's actually rather common when you have top 5 QB. If you want to give Beane all the credit for landing an elite QB and supporting him with nothing that is ok. If you want to celebrate being champions over the Miami Dolphins each year that is ok as well. I think most of us would like to actually win a SB and for that to happen we need more talent than a "crappy Panthers team" that couldn't even win a Super Bowl or sustain success who only played scrubs. 😂
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2 minutes ago, Mister Defense said:
Well, we will continue disagreeing. But I will take my Bills any day over your 2015 Panthers.
I can say that the Panthers had some high level parts in their team and also that the Bills team is superior--as they have clearly demonstrated that year after year after year.
And I was not comprehensive in my first post--as believe this Bills' secondary has been superior as well. Ditto for the coaching.
You don't address the 'one hit wonder' truth, the Panthers' poor record in the year before and year after--but of course not, as the entire point of the post is to trash the current Bills' leadership. That failure in itself completely undermines your main point--as my team's talent has been dramatically better at winning football games than your team's, the Panthers, the one you emphatically state had "MUCH" better talent. If your focus and main point of your post were accurate that would not be the case, as the Panthers, not the Bills, would have the far superior record. In fact, and as you know, the Bills' record in that span is MUCH better.
How can your far superior, dramatically more talented team, so not even close in your eyes, be soo good, yet still suck so badly the year before that and the year after?? Most of the players you heap praise on were on those teams too.
If you think that kind of Panthers team is where it is at, and that the Bills team we have seen over the last years is not even close, go ahead and think that. Even if it is clearly wrong as the actual reality of the situation undermines that comically bizarre notion.
You could have that Panthers team--I will take the Bills of the last 5 years any day. And, even with the big turnover this off season, the grrreat job this front office and coaching staff have done give me confidence that they could be a legitimate contender once again. While your far superior Panthers have one playoff appearance since your team's seminal season...
QB play, it sort of takes that to be good right?
Lets go win another AFC east crown!
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3 minutes ago, MJS said:
I think he could be more than that. I could easily see him getting 80 targets.
This is exactly how I see it.
I think we are underestimating Samuel. I see him ahead of Shakir but I suppose it's a good sign that people see it differently. As a whole I think this group is going to surprise people. I can't help but think back to MLB last year where it appeared like we had nothing and Beane didn't care and he knew what we had in Bernard. I'm hopeful WR/TE plays out that way this year. I expect one of those guys, perhaps even two, to be signifgantly more productive than they ever have. First bet would be Dalton, second Samuel. I think Knox or even Shorter could also crash the party. Then Keon will be a huge piece for Josh out of structure and in the red zone in his first year.
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3 hours ago, Mister Defense said:
First and foremost, a superior quarterback in Josh Allen. No one, except some irrational haters would take Newton before Josh Allen.
A better wide receivers group every year of the last few years for the Bills, and that may also include this coming year with the major changes-I believe it will.
A better defensive line
You say that Olson was great, and he was, but I believe the Bills have a better tight end room now, with two starting caliber tight ends in Kincaid and Knox. Kincaid--the all time reception record for rookie tight ends last year.
(And while I think the Panther linebacker unit, with Kuechly and Davis, is better, the Bills' with Milano and Bernhard will be one of the best in the NFL this year.)
The 2015 Panthers were a one hit wonder Mr. Mikie, they did not even have a winning record the year before-OR the year after--5-8-1 and 6-8. If they were such good team, and "MUCH more talented than any version of the Bills", doesn't that in itself really undermine your words in this strange post, focus? The Bills have been a championship contender for at least the last four years. And even with the significant turn over this off season they will likely be contenders again this coming year. And sorry to disappoint you, and your prayers for their firings, but a significant reason for that is the two men you despise: Beane and MCDermott--no doubt about that.
And again, an extremely bizarre, wacky post, one designed just to make your point which is to spread more of your misinformation (hate) about our team's leaders. I like irreverent things; not shady attempts to spread nonsense.
So you feel Buffalo has been better? Not sure why that triggered you so greatly. You yourself just said at the very most 3 position groups are better out of what? 8 total? The furthest we have gone is not as far as they went. Now we enter rebuilding and sure, we can possibly hang another AFC east banner this year but is that because we built a better team or as you said we have gotten much better contributions at QB? How much does it even matter? Who cares about the AFC east titles if we don’t have the talent to go further.
Outside that MVP year Newton did not perform like a Top 3 QB and just because you give this regime credit for Josh consistently doing so the reason we consistently fall short is because we cant build a better all around team. At least that’s what it appears to me.
I mean, when you look at the positional groupings of a team many people including yourself have basically called trash, then you consider that we are not better than the trash in the majority of those groupings. Hmmm. Maybe that is why I made this post. For all our success I was surprised that those Carolina squads had more talent. Which to me says a lot about the perceived success of this regime and the direction it’s going. This is not the first rodeo for any of them and the face that in many ways it looks the same or worse doesn’t get me all hot and bothered.
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10 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:
It irks me to no end when I hear about Josh’s record against KC in the playoffs when he had the 13 seconds game all but wrapped up and never saw the field again. What’s the point of having a defensive coach if the defense isn’t winning in the post-season? This a make or break year for McDermott. Not saying he needs to win a SB, he needs to prove he can beat Kansas City in the playoffs. The Chiefs are flawed too and no where near the juggernaut that the Patriots were. We’ve seen other teams contain them like the Bengals and Ravens.
We need to move on
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Keon runs so vertically and is rigid with his arms. This is stuff that the Bills can work on him with. Along with his natural talents he will be just fine.
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14 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:
If I am to believe what is being sold in this thread than I would have to also know that Allen is criminally underrated. Underrated not just by the national media but by even Bills fans on TBD. Allen should be recognized as the alpha QB in today's game, even over Mahomes and perhaps by a wide margin.
Let's follow the logic laid out here.
1. Allen keeps the Bills contending year after year pretty much by himself because he hasn't been given the proper roster support by Beane and McDermott.
2. Mahomes, who everyone recognizes as the clear alpha QB in today's game, is surrounded by great talent and coaching over that same four year time period. Tyreek, GOAT tight end in Kelce, GOAT offensive coach in Reid, GOAT defensive coach in Spags and top 3 defensive player in the game today in Chris Jones. Just an absolute embarrassment of riches the KC ownership and GM have provided to Mahomes. Bravo.
3. Despite the clear imbalance of riches between the two teams, Josh Allen, nearly by himself has managed to lead the Bills to the second most wins over that four year time period, trailing only the Chiefs. Josh Allen has gone a perfect 3-0 against the Chiefs and Mahomes in the last three regular season games and has played two nearly perfect playoff games against the Chiefs only to end up losing late due to circumstances largely out of his control. Literally one squib kick or one lucky bounce away from being 5-0 against the Chiefs and Mahomes in the last five contests between the two.
If all of the above is true, it's pretty clear who the alpha QB in today's game is. Or, more likely, the Bills roster these last four years has not been nearly as bad as some want to believe.
Simple answers to complex things. Not surprising.
5 hours ago, TH3 said:So you don’t like our roster…is that your point?
I guess I'm a bit taken back that we haven't been able to build a better roster than that team. But the thread was intended for conversation. Nothing more.
4 hours ago, Mister Defense said:Did anyone else laugh out loud at t how ridiculous this post was!?
I could not imagine almost anyone looking at the two rosters, and also having seen both teams play, come to your laughable, and frankly bizarre take--that the 2015 Panthers were "MUCH more talented than any version of the Bills we have seen thus far".
But then I read the line, "Beane has had a good amount of time working on our roster" and realized you are simply a hater, so will, like the others, just spew out nonsense to fit your irrational narrative. (In the future could you please state your hate as your first line--so readers know what is coming, so could save themselves some time and just skip the post?)
And then you end with "This was a very good Carolina team but I don't like that it appears we have a deficit against them in nearly every position."
Why on earth would you be concerned with how the Bills stack up to, of all teams, the 2015 Panthers??
To almost any objective observer, almost any version of this Bills team over the last 5 years would not only stack up well against that one shot wonder, but would clean their clocks in almost any game. But somehow you see that team as not just better, but "MUCH more talented" and at nearly every position! (I just giggled like a school girl again when I wrote hat line!)
Don't let your hate get in the way of the actual reality.
No objective Bills fan would ever think that one year aberration was even in the same category as our current Bills team, which has been a serious and legitimate championship contender for years...
But thanks for the laughs on this Friday!
What positions are we better at on that roster?
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What's sort of a bummer with these highlights is just how well the plays are designed. The energy we seem to be playing with. Diggs specifically. This team just doesn't seem to be having fun like they once did. Thus far the best years of this run are behind us. The only thing that will change that is the results.
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1 hour ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:
okay. Maybe I am dull. What the heck is that supposed to tell us other than the Panthers had one abnormally great year? Which we already knew.
The Bills worst years under Beane and McDermott were good years for the Cam Newton Panthers. The Bills should have bottomed out this last year when they were 6-6 and had one of those losing seasons like the Panthers did but instead they went on a six game winning streak and it wasn’t because Josh Allen went nuclear.
So take Allen off the field and replace him with an average level QB and we still beat KC? We still beat the Chargers? We run all over the Cowboys? We come from behind vs Miami? Allen or the threat of Allen contributed to all of our wins. Newton playing like a below average QB is why Carolina didn't sustain success. You can only give this group so much credit for landing a single player. They have not been able to develop the roster even as well as they did almost 10 years ago.
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