Mikie2times

Agreed

Fumbles aside I still don't see Henry having 1st round value at any point in his career. Not when you consider the type of RB's that have gotten first round picks in years past.

I should have said draft pick, at least that was more of the argument I was making. I’ll change the title up top. We did steel it from ATL, but I just don't see that as a justification for saying Willis was a steal. The pick was, but not the player. Willis is basically a player we drafted with major injury concerns that now has value around when we drafted him, no more, no less. Johnson runs behind an outstanding line, so that is a big advantage he has over Willis, but I still think Johnson has shown more breakaway speed, and versatility then Willis, and was also healthy at the time of the draft.

No disputing that

When people talk about the best draft move TD has made as GM most people wouldn't hesitate to say Willis MaGahee, and why not? I said the same in some of my posts until the other day I started to think about it a little more. When you look at the value of the RB position is Willis performing like that much of a steal for when we drafted him and the injury concerns? Some things to consider about the best pick of the TD era -Travis Henry posted better averages, and overall numbers in 2002 and 2003 then Willis did in 2003, 2004, and 2005 combined. Of course Willis didn’t play in 2003, but we did select him knowing that our first round pick would not play his first year. Even by just counting 2004 and 2005 Henry still beats MaGahee’s averages, which don't factor in carries. He also ran behind an equally bad offensive line. Henry/Willis Seeing how those two backs compare fairly evenly did Travis ever have the same 1st round value at any point in his career? - A healthy Larry Johnson was picked up 4 spots after Willis MaGahee - MaGahee will most likely be seeking a more lucrative deal soon. He says he's the best back in the league, last year Alexander and Edge had 2nd round trade value. Would you rather pay the money to Willis at the cost of a first rounder, or Edge/Alexander and a 2nd? Willis is a good running back; I just don't think we should call him the best pick in TD history. RB's just don't have much value, and he came with a year off and no guarantee that he would ever recover. Now he says he's close to 100% but does he appear like he has anymore value then the 23rd pick in the NFL draft? That day will only come if he regains his speed, in the mean time lets hope he doesn’t ask for more money.

We all have the stories of doing stupid crap as kids, but I'm not talking about misbehaving stories, I'm talking about stupid things you did because you just didn’t know any better. My top 3 stories all happened at a very early age, and all show how little I knew about the 3rd law of physics. 1. Threw pebbles into moving truck beds. That’s right, I had no I could damage a truck if I threw rocks at its truck bed. Result: The perfect shot bounced off the bed and cracked the guy’s rear window. 2. Shined a flashlight at drivers as they pulled around my subdivision. Again for some reason I don't think it effects the drivers or that the drivers even know I'm doing it. Result: Nobody hurt, thank god 3. I play underhand baseball (with a hardball) in a my backyard, hitting the ball into a field ahead. The house is behind me, I fouled one threw the glass door. Result: New glass door, nobody hurt, thank god.

I don't have time, still working on my night moves.

I'm not really sure, I know he hasn't had a show since 1996, but still has a huge following that’s trying to get him to tour again. That’s why I think it would be perfect for him to come back Super Bowl Sunday in Motown. If he ever does tour again in Michigan I can't imagine how much the tickets will go for, but I know I'll try like hell to get one.

We suck this year but I'm still excited about next year’s possibilities. The problems of this team have been well documented, and with the heat on TD I doubt this is another off-season of bargain basement FA's. At the least I expect us to address our problem areas aggressively threw FA and the draft, and while that might not bring an immediate fix at those spots some improved play from our younger guys will really help us look better. It's been awhile since this team has done anything but it's still the NFL, and cellar dwellers can turn it around quickly with the right moves. The question is can TD make them?

Carolina's run blocking has been atrocious this year, but Wahle has been solid and was the LG we should have picked up last year. Anybody know if TD even brought him in for a look?

I wanted to hear cincys thoughts as well. I've only caught a few Bengals games, but have seen enough to know they have a pretty awful run defense, not Buffalo bad, but bad by NFL standards. Who knows how much of a role Thornton plays in all of that, but it can’t be the greatest sign if they want him to restructure after signing not to long ago.

Come on Nemhoff, it's Ngata. Let's pick up the execution around here!

His Name is Robert Paulson His Name is Robert Paulson Just picked up on the handle By the way good job picking up on the obvious mistake ESPN made. According to the Bills web site the capacity at the Ralph is 73,967. So by taking that figure into account instead of the 80,020 ESPN has us down for, The Bills average filling 97.2% of the stadium for home games. I was under the impression we’ve sold out all the home games this year, so if that’s the case perhaps these numbers reflect actual attendance figures, and not just tickets purchased.

My first choice would be Seger. He's a god in Michigan, but even the biggest stage in the world with a ton of $ probably won't get him to play again.

"Posing nude for your artwork today is Kzoo Mike, Ron Jeremy, John Holmes, Tommy Lee, and Vida"

Do they ever come out with yearly total revenue figures? I know they come out with the annual franchise value, ticket cost, attendance etc. But as you pointed out that doesn't necessarily show who's bringing in the most money.

I don't think anything, TS just asked for average ticket prices, so I did a search for average ticket prices, and also came across the study on how ticket prices are set.

2004 NFL tickets Average ticket price for NFL teams in 2004: Team Price 1. Patriots------ $77.25 2. Redskins----- $64.65 3. Broncos------ $63.47 4. Chiefs-------- $62.72 5. Giants-------- $62.37 6. Jets----------- $62.17 7. 49ers--------- $61.75 8. Eagles-------- $60.32 9. Bears--------- $59.68 10. Lions--------- $59.04 11. Raiders------- $58.86 12. Bucs---------- $56.37 13. Vikings-------- $54.76 14. Colts---------- $53.92 15. Panthers------ $53.62 16. Chargers------ $53.40 17. Saints--------- $52.75 18. Rams ----------$52.31 19. Texans--------- $52.11 20. Bengals-------- $51.95 21. Ravens--------- $51.21 22. Cowboys------- $51.13 23. Steelers-------- $49.93 24. Seahawks ------$48.68 25. Browns-------- $46.51 26. Packers-------- $46.25 27. Dolphins-------- $46.17 28. Titans----------- $45.59 29. Cardinals-------- $44.21 30. Falcons---------- $44.14 31. Jaguars---------- $43.77 32. Bills-------------- $38.38 Leading Factors involved in pricing Linky Ranked in order of importance 1. Team Performance 2. Revenue Needs 3. Public Relations 4. Market Toleration 5. Fan Identification 6. Average League Price 7. Economic Factors 8. Facility Capacity 9. Competing Entertainment 10. Average Income 11. Condition of Facility 12. Population 13. Schedule 14. Television/Media Coverage 15. Accessibility 16. Star Players 17. Racial Composition 18. Weather Conditions

Vince Young is averaging a sack every 20.62 drop backs.

I don't see people not showing up in 2006, maybe 2007 if we have another bad year, but not 2006. TD will go crazy this off-season, he has to, because another bad year and he's probably out. We have a deep following, and most will probably be willing to shell out for tickets again if TD makes some popular moves.

From a financial standpoint TD runs the Bills very efficiently, and he brought with him a fairly lofty reputation as General Manager. For Ralph TD was the perfect hire, it brought the expectation of winning to the fans, and likely financial gain. Those two things probably head the list of things an owner looks for in a GM, so Ralph decided to bring TD aboard and all appeared to be rosy. Fast forward to now and you know the records. The original plan of TD bringing a winning team to Buffalo hasn't worked out, but the financial gains are even higher then expected. I believe Ralph is a man that cares about his legacy; he cares about how people remember him, and how much he can leave to his family. During the TD tenure Ralph was making that extra fortune for his family, and despite the losing he had a GM with the nickname Teflon. For the past four years we've blamed coaches, players, and the GM. Now TD is under a lot of pressure, and the statistical disaster that has been his tenure so far is on the front page. Say what you will about TD’s individual moves, but the case reporters can make against him is overwhelming if they’re on the attack. Now people are starting to think if this is what TD has done, why isn’t Ralph going to do anything about it. For the first time in a long time, some people are pointing fingers at the owner, not the GM, coach, or players. That hurts Ralph’s legacy and that isn't something he is going to tolerate as he continues to age. The question is will enough fingers be pointing at Ralph by the end of 2005 to overtake the financial benefits of TD? Realistically I see those things balancing out at the end of the season with TD sticking around another year. If he turns it around in 2006 he will most likely stay for the long term, if not I see it being his last season as GM.

That was great

Over Harrington’s career he averages a sack every 23.09 drop backs. Compared to the league average of 14.37 that number is outstanding. Perhaps a good deal of that can be attributed to Morningwhig and Mooch running the west coast, but a number that high doesn't occur unless the line is pass blocking well, and the QB is getting rid of it early. Harrington and the Lions line might be doing a great job at avoiding sacks, but that doesn't mean they throw efficiently, run block, play defense, etc.. What's going on in Detroit involves Harrington, much like our problems last season involved Bledsoe, but just because a player is involved in the problems doesn't neccesarily mean their the only ones causing them.

Is this for real? Nobody felt compelled to defend Eli because they were to busy calling him the biggest best since Tony Mandrich. His performance last year nearly got him thrown out of New York City. You think the Bills fans freaked out? Try putting on an even worse show then JP in a media city like that. It wasn't like all the Giants fans sat around patiently knowing that their Peyton Manning would emerge. The guy was under a ton of pressure, and media and fan base was questioning if he could get it turned around. Even if you refuse to allow that into some of the faultiest logic I ever seen, how does the fan, or media’s need to defend somebody have anything to do with a QB's future chance at a success? Are you implying that if a players pedigree was higher then JP's we would all be comfortable enough with a poor performance to not question his ability? Eli may come from the same gene pool as Archie and Peyton, but the consensus was Losman being the most physically gifted QB in the draft that year, just not the most polished. I can't say for sure he's going to be a great QB, but I know for a fact neither can anybody else, especially not somebody basing their logic on an obscure opinion that makes little sense, and has no evidence to back it up with.

Duh..... It is pass attempts per sack; I guess I just had a blonde moment. I'll edit the first post.